[Official] Bitching About Prices, Buyouts and Reprints Thread

Well, on the other hand, check out the prices on anything that is legacy only and not in Modern. Everything is dropping fast. Wastelands, Maze of Ith, Tabernacles, Moats, etc. It seems Modern is the new poster child of high prices.

LOL my buddy was asking if he could borrow my playset of Bridge from Below. I jokingly told him just buy them at $20 a playset before they go up.

He told me they actually went up. They're $20 each now. I LOLed.

Cool, cause Dredge is so good without Dread Return. Oh nevermind, 2/3 of Innastrad is left unspoiled, so the speculators think that Dredge without Dread Return but with unspoiled Card X is going to be better than Dredge with Dread Return.

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Originally Posted by dahcmai

Well, on the other hand, check out the prices on anything that is legacy only and not in Modern. Everything is dropping fast. Wastelands, Maze of Ith, Tabernacles, Moats, etc. It seems Modern is the new poster child of high prices.

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I knew it. Now i'll be able to finish my playset project!

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Originally Posted by dahcmai

Well, on the other hand, check out the prices on anything that is legacy only and not in Modern. Everything is dropping fast. Wastelands, Maze of Ith, Tabernacles, Moats, etc. It seems Modern is the new poster child of high prices.

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Well, isn't now the period of time where legacy prices tend to drop a bit anyway? I mean traditionally this seems to have been the case

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Originally Posted by crovakiet

Well, isn't now the period of time where legacy prices tend to drop a bit anyway? I mean traditionally this seems to have been the case

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You mean right before the European Legacy GP? Uhm..no?

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Originally Posted by crovakiet

Well, isn't now the period of time where legacy prices tend to drop a bit anyway? I mean traditionally this seems to have been the case

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I've found that Legacy prices dip slightly in the summer and shot up in the winter. I haven't really noticed a lot of prices dropping, but I haven't been keeping tabs on them except for the few cards I'm still trying to pick up.

Whether the lower prices other people have observed is part of this cyclical trend, or whether it is a manifestation of Modern Gone Wild is uncertain.

With prices as high as they are, I've actually decided to unload the bulk of my "Build books". I'm keeping stuff for dredge (manaless and nonled styles), new horizons, enchantress, and affinity. I'm building Pyromancer Ascension and one other deck to be decided in the near future and unloading everything else while it's super inflated. I really wish there were a good control deck in Modern right now so that I'd be content with that. Not a big aggro fan and I don't like cloudpost.

Well, prices do tend to drop and they especially have lulls when a new set is due out soon. People seem to flock to the pre-orders and fight, but these are overall drops. Like Tabernacle stood out the most. It's over a $75 drop and it's on all of them that have sold in the last month or 2. That's noticeable, though it can be racked up to no one playing decks that use it lately.

Wasteland should never have drops though. It's been steadily going up for a long, long time. This is the first time I started seeing a drop, though SCG did a number on it with that buy price they had.

It's hard to track things with them going crazy up and down so fast anymore.

lol Leveler.

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Originally Posted by Mr.C

lol Leveler.

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That's just dumb. Is that for the new INN blue creature which wins the game when you can't draw? I can't believe people really think that cc 8 combo which wins on the next turn and folds to any removal is playable.

If you want to bitch about prices, at least tell the source of your price so people can judge by themselves whether you are just plain stupid or if there really is something to it.

Lol, if Leveller shoots up because of anti-grindstone guy, people need to start thinking how amazing removal is against this dude when they attempt to draw-and-win and proceed to draw-and-lose instead.

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Originally Posted by Hopo

If you want to bitch about prices, at least tell the source of your price so people can judge by themselves whether you are just plain stupid or if there really is something to it.

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I couldn't agree with this more.
Generally, if the source isn't eBay, I don't even care.
It's not even a real card price to me if it is like SCG or something.

leveller is like 3 euros on MKM since this morning

Paradigm Shift and Leveler, kids.

Leveler? Seriously. Thought Lash is better at least. But really any combo that turns an opponent's creature removal into a win condition for them is worthless.

I was going to pick up a single mutavault thinking it would be around $9-10 and it was $38!

I can see Lab Maniac as being a competitive deck with Thought Lash + Sol-lands (Ancient Tombs, Traitors) and Intuition, however with Leveler/Diving Witch or Paradigm Shift it seems like a bad deck. I assume the price hike of Leveler would be temporary.

Guy I Don't Know, Mutavaults are still $29.99 at Starcity Games.

In other news: foil Green Sun's Zenith jumped from $14.99 to $19.99, not as spectacular as the price jump of foil Through the Breach etc. :(

I still don't get why life from the loam and bridge from below tripled and quadrupled when there has been no new decks in any formats making use of them.

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Originally Posted by say no to scurvy

I still don't get why life from the loam and bridge from below tripled and quadrupled when there has been no new decks in any formats making use of them.

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The theory is that there will be something amazing and playable with them from Innistrad...purely on speculators for that one.

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Originally Posted by anonymos

The theory is that there will be something amazing and playable with them from Innistrad...purely on speculators for that one.

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Ye pretty much. This is just hillarious. Btw, Thoughtseize doubled when im not mistaken.

And anonymos..... GET RID OF THIS QUOTE IN THE SIGNATURE, ITS JUST POOR!

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Originally Posted by Philipp802

And anonymos..... GET RID OF THIS QUOTE IN THE SIGNATURE, ITS JUST POOR!

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Oh, c'mon.

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Originally Posted by Philipp802

Ye pretty much. This is just hillarious. Btw, Thoughtseize doubled when im not mistaken.

And anonymos..... GET RID OF THIS QUOTE IN THE SIGNATURE, ITS JUST POOR!

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Funny thing is that is a quote from a friend of mine who's stuck in a wheelchair. He actually prefers to go by "Wheels" because he doesn't like his given name.

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Originally Posted by Philipp802

And anonymos..... GET RID OF THIS QUOTE IN THE SIGNATURE, ITS JUST POOR!

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First rule of comedy. If it's funny, someone will find it offensive.

Can someone please explain this to me:
Through the Breach is a key card deck in modern, so they are now selling for 10$~. It WAS just a 50c junk rare a month ago, since it wasnt used in anything else as far as I know. Goryo's Vengeance is another key card of a modern deck. Both are almost the same exact deck. If I understand the decks correctly, they "combo" to get emrakul into play turn 2/3 via seething song/discard outlet + Through the breach/Goryo's Vengeance + emrakul. They both saw an equal amout of play, and wins in phili. Why is Goryo's Vengeance still a 50c rare but Through the breach 10$~? Am I missing something?

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Originally Posted by TheArchitect

Can someone please explain this to me:
Through the Breach is a key card deck in modern, so they are now selling for 10$~. It WAS just a 50c junk rare a month ago, since it wasnt used in anything else as far as I know. Goryo's Vengeance is another key card of a modern deck. Both are almost the same exact deck. If I understand the decks correctly, they "combo" to get emrakul into play turn 2/3 via seething song/discard outlet + Through the breach/Goryo's Vengeance + emrakul. They both saw an equal amout of play, and wins in phili. Why is Goryo's Vengeance still a 50c rare but Through the breach 10$~? Am I missing something?

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Through the Breach made it into 12 post lists in Modern, which is a very popular deck. So I assume it's from all the 12 post players playing it (I think it even sees very mild play in legacy in some sneak attack show and tell decks).

Are you sure they saw equal play and equal success?

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazin...topmoderndecks

Search results for Goryo's Vengeance: 0. Breach Post made top 8. I agree Breach's price is crazy, thinking it's the same as Goryo's Vengeance is crazy. They go in totally different decks to begin with.

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Originally Posted by bfeingersh

Are you sure they saw equal play and equal success?

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazin...topmoderndecks

Search results for Goryo's Vengeance: 0. Breach Post made top 8. I agree Breach's price is crazy, thinking it's the same as Goryo's Vengeance is crazy. They go in totally different decks to begin with.

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The following players recorded 18 or more points in the 10 rounds of Modern Constructed play at Pro Tour Philadelphia.

Jeremy Neeman - 27 points
Pro Tour Philadelphia, Modern Constructed

Main Deck
60 cards

2 Island
4 Misty Rainforest
4 Scalding Tarn
3 Shivan Reef
2 Steam Vents
1 Watery Grave
16 lands

3 Goblin Bushwhacker
3 creatures

4 Desperate Ritual
4 Empty the Warrens
3 Gitaxian Probe
4 Manamorphose
4 Peer Through Depths
4 Ponder
4 Preordain
2 Pyretic Ritual
4 Rite of Flame
4 Seething Song
4 Serum Visions

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HAHAHA WHAT?!?!?! YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME, THAT IS LITERALLY A PAUPER DECKLIST I HAVE PLAYED AGAINST MANY TIMES WITH A RARE LAND BASE...

What a shitty format, one of the best performing decks at the GP was a middle of the road deck in a format with no uncommons or rares.

Did Thoughtseize just double its price to 20 Euro?

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Originally Posted by Philipp802

Did Thoughtseize just double its price to 20 Euro?

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Actually it's 100 euros now.

Thoughtseize was about 16€ for a long time, nothing has doubled there. When modern was announced, it climbed to 19.

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Originally Posted by dontbiteitholmes

HAHAHA WHAT?!?!?! YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME, THAT IS LITERALLY A PAUPER DECKLIST I HAVE PLAYED AGAINST MANY TIMES WITH A RARE LAND BASE...

What a shitty format, one of the best performing decks at the GP was a middle of the road deck in a format with no uncommons or rares.

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Serum Visions and Gitaxian Probe are uncommons. Though I do agree with you.

Also, whats with the Watery Grave in that list? I don't see a black card.

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Originally Posted by (nameless one)

Serum Visions and Gitaxian Probe are uncommons. Though I do agree with you.

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They're both commons. The entire non-land decklist is common, in fact.

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Originally Posted by (nameless one)

Also, whats with the Watery Grave in that list? I don't see a black card.

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His sideboard had Thoughtseizes IIRC.

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Originally Posted by Admiral_Arzar

They're both commons. The entire non-land decklist is common, in fact.

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Shit you're right! The internet lied to me again!

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Originally Posted by death

His sideboard had Thoughtseizes IIRC.

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And Dark Confidants.

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Originally Posted by Admiral_Arzar

They're both commons. The entire non-land decklist is common, in fact.

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Right you are, the reason I noticed in the first place is that that is a card for card rip of a moderately popular Pauper deck which I have played against many times (except of course for the lands). If I cared and had the time I'm 100% sure I could dig through the "decks of the week" and find several 3-1 and maybe 4-0 lists from pauper dailies. (Though in reality that is more of a 3-1 deck since everyone in pauper sideboards vs. a storm of Goblin tokens)

Anybody seen that riptide labs jumped? Pick them up now for cheap while you still can, they have been pretty good in testing, with a bunch of wizards with come into play abilities. Snapcaster, vendilion clique, spellstutter sprite, mutavault, resetting sideboard meddling mages. I think labs are only going to get played as a 2 of, for the late game.

Yeah, it's pretty much all Snapcaster since that Flashback thing is pretty hot. Clique was already a decent target and now it gets a new target for Labs with the Mage. As if Stoneforge needed another good card in it to be even more synergistic. lol