[ZEN] Rumor Mill

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Originally Posted by quicksilver

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showt...paging+Baloths

This thread shows a picture with the text (although hard to make out), I am pretty sure says "comes into play".

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It definitely says enters the battlefield.

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Originally Posted by DrJones

This set was designed by the winners of the great designer search, which got to work at wizards... in jobs totally unrelated with designing cards. This fact alone might give enough warning about the overall quality of Zendikar. Ken Nagle was the only remotely good designer in the bunch, and if you have read his articles, you'll see that his idea of a "fun" card is the total opposite of what an eternal player might consider (even if remotely) playable.

Even though I would love to be proven wrong, I predict another year of not having to care about purchasing singles. :cool:

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Isn't it a bit early to bitch about the set? We know 5 cards, with 4 filler commons and one Timmy Mystic Rare card.

Traps may be a shitty, ripped-off concept, but Landfall has serious potenial on the right card. The spoiler season has just begun.

I'm already looking forward to some totally degenerate landfall cards.

Landfall will probably be balanced around standard/draft. And since legacy has many more things to abuse landfall, fetches/exploration/crucible/life from the loam etc..., it has a real potential to be very strong in legacy, as long as they print it on a card with a low casting cost unlike that spoiled unplayable one.

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Originally Posted by Barook

How does Landfall work exactly? Is it just a pointless keyword for "do broken stuff with fetchlands" or does it really require you to play the lands?

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Just read the spoiled card:

Rampaging Baloths :4::g::g:
Creature - Beast
Trample
Landfall - Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, you may put a 4/4 green Beast creature token onto the battlefield.
#176/249 6/6

You don't have to play it, it just needs to enter the battlefield under your control. Fetchlands basically double your landfall triggers. If a cheaper card would be printed with a decent Landfall ability, I could see it go nuts.

I saw Landfall and I think "maybe now we'll see enemy color fetches..." A boy can hope.

There's Terramorphic Expanse in M10, I think that's enough for Standard. If enemy fetches will come, it will be in an enemy color themed block or set.

I'm pretty sure Wizards told us once before that enemy fetches will never come. And even if they hadn't said that, it's time for a bit of a relaxing time colorwise. There are still the shardlands and trifetches.

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Originally Posted by MTG-Fan

I think it'd be kind of neat if they printed some decent lands with Kicker.

Like:

<Kicker Swamp>
Land

Tap: add B to your mana pool. If the Kicker cost was paid, add B1 to your mana pool instead.
Kicker - Sacrifice a black creature with power greater than 2.


<Kicker Island>
Land

Tap: add U to your mana pool. If the Kicker cost was paid, add U1 to your mana pool instead.
Kicker - Target opponent may draw a card. (or draw 2 cards, if that makes the card too good)

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The blue one seems kind of busted in Combo, maybe thats just me though

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Originally Posted by lorddotm

The blue one seems kind of busted in Combo, maybe thats just me though

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They still only tap for one color.

And useless for Solidarity, unless if you're making it an Island too. Of course, that would make it busted.

Hmm with the new wording they could print cards that say something like "Kick target spell" which would then treat that card as if the kicker cost was paid.

Lol, "kick target spell" I can just imagine the noobs literally punting their opponents cards.

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Originally Posted by quicksilver

Hmm with the new wording they could print cards that say something like "Kick target spell" which would then treat that card as if the kicker cost was paid.

Lol, "kick target spell" I can jsu imagine the noobs literally punting their opponents cards.

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Wow... that would be cool!! Something like this:

Kickening Land
Land

Tap: Add 1 to your mana pool. The spell you cast with this mana is kickened.

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Originally Posted by quicksilver

Hmm with the new wording they could print cards that say something like "Kick target spell" which would then treat that card as if the kicker cost was paid.

Lol, "kick target spell" I can jsu imagine the noobs literally punting their opponents cards.

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...And now Urza's Rage is top tier.

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Originally Posted by JeroenC

And useless for Solidarity, unless if you're making it an Island too. Of course, that would make it busted.

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ANT and Doomsday will take your share. Yours too Bryant.

Any land that taps for 2 mana with negligible drawbacks is bound to be abused. Especially one that taps for blue mana.

The a Kicking Land would be very fun to play with.

"Play Kicking Land, play Probe, kicking you" haha

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Originally Posted by Zinch

Wow... that would be cool!! Something like this:

Kickening Land
Land

Tap: Add 1 to your mana pool. The spell you cast with this mana is kickened.

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Awesome. That would make so many of the old kicker cards playable. I really want a card like that in the set.

Sure. Farewell Tarmogoyf, hello Llanowar Elite and Kavu Titan. Farewell every-utility-creature-ever-made, hello Battlemages. Farewell Hellbent Infernal Tutor for Tendrils, hello Infernal tutor for a second Urza's Rage with FoW backup.

Rules issues aside (I suspect there would be timing problems), such a card would have to be Legendary, CIPT, and probably require mana to activate to be balanced... and it still wouldn't be fun (at least for more than a couple of weeks).

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Originally Posted by Nihil Credo

Sure. Farewell Tarmogoyf, hello Llanowar Elite and Kavu Titan. Farewell every-utility-creature-ever-made, hello Battlemages. Farewell Hellbent Infernal Tutor for Tendrils, hello Infernal tutor for a second Urza's Rage with FoW backup.

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At least it would add some diversity to the field.

What? Diversity? Damn kid, everybody would want to play that card. I'm actually quite certain it might lead to a new Flash-Hulk kind of thing. Perhaps not as insane. But still insane as HELL.
Decks with Kicker Land and Crop Rotation vs Wasteland and Ghost Quarter.dec

Sounds like fun.