Avacyn Restored Card Discussion [SIMMERING POT OF FECAL MATTER]

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Originally Posted by Vacrix

I wonder. If the Miracle mechanic winds up turning out some broken cards, will Thought Scour see more play in Legacy?

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Originally Posted by UnderwaterGuy

What do you mean by this?

Thought Scour will see exactly the same amount of play in 1.5 as Mental Note did.

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I'm assuming he's implying it would be good for milling your opponent's miracle cards after they stack them (top/bs).

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Originally Posted by Gheizen64

Sneak attack effect? My bet is on a Wheel of Fortune Miracle

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Wanker thought of the moment: a reprint of Wheel of Fortune but with a mana cost of RRR would probably be a good addition to Legacy. BRR or RRW, even better.

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Originally Posted by Nihil Credo

Wanker thought of the moment: a reprint of Wheel of Fortune but with a mana cost of RRR would probably be a good addition to Legacy. BRR or RRW, even better.

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Tribal Sorcery - Goblin

Ban Brainstorm.

A tutor with Miracle would be tight. Maybe the blue one is something like..

Lol Miracles 3U
Instant
Search your library for a blue instant or sorcery card and put it into your hand.
Miracle U
"Jesus! I has a Miracles! Now your ass is mine."


Did anyone else notice that they pulled this keyword from fucking Go Fish? "Fished my wish bitch!" I might like this one but god damn they are running out of ideas. Soon we'll be like 'End of turn, Uno! I reveal my hand, take an extra turn. Oh what do you know! Miracle this shit. Then I activate my trap card and get out of jail free."

Assuming that a given idea is fun and balanced as a Magic mechanic, it would be very stupid to refuse to use it just because a different game did it first.

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Originally Posted by Erdvermampfa

Ban Brainstorm.

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Here we go again!

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Originally Posted by Vacrix

I don't see this getting played in anything but DnT where you can Flickerwisp it to make it good again. Likely, they will kill the other creature though leaving this one to be Flickerwisp'd because its relatively useless by itself. Then you can swing in with Wisp for 6 flying and the first strike is even good when you need to block Delvers.

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After re-reading the wording of Soulbound, doesn't the ability imply that you can reuse it as often as you like?

Let's say:
Paladin enters the battlefield, you Soulbound it with Goyf.
Goyf attacks, eats a StP. Now Paladin is unpaired again.
Play another Goyf, Soulbound triggers again as Goyf enters the battlefield. You can now pair them again.

That's the way I'm reading it. And it actually sounds good if it's reuseable like that.

A good point. I actually missed that in the wording. 'Either' is crucial. That makes him way better.

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Originally Posted by Barook

After re-reading the wording of Soulbound, doesn't the ability imply that you can reuse it as often as you like?

Let's say:
Paladin enters the battlefield, you Soulbound it with Goyf.
Goyf attacks, eats a StP. Now Paladin is unpaired again.
Play another Goyf, Soulbound triggers again as Goyf enters the battlefield. You can now pair them again.

That's the way I'm reading it. And it actually sounds good if it's reuseable like that.

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Yeah, that is how it works.

In fact (until they release the comprehensive rules for this set, I guess) you can pair this creature with any number of creatures, because the only one that needs to be unpaired is the one entering the battlefield...

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Originally Posted by Zinch

In fact (until they release the comprehensive rules for this set, I guess) you can pair this creature with any number of creatures, because the only one that needs to be unpaired is the one entering the battlefield...

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The wording might make it possible, although I doubt that's the way it's intended.

With repairing Soulbound new tokens, it also makes a good partner for Batterskull.

Ball Lightning creatures are also an interesting way to use the Paladin.

I am highly amused by this soulbound mechanic. Am I the only one looking forward to slamming down a Scavenging Ooze with this guy on the table and saying, "They're married now?"

The miracle card development was scared of it's a white removal spell, and it has Miracle 0. Seriously? Probably this:

Exile this, exile that 1WW
Instant
Exile target creature
Miracle 0

I think this is the most they could push it at. Or maybe, judging from the art that punish a vampire it has a non-white condition:

Terror light WW
Istant
Exile target non-white creature
Miracle 0

Far less likely, but it could even be an hoser :

BRos gettin' Hose W
Instant
Exile target black or red creature
Miracle 0

EDIT: thinking about it, a miracle 0 removal spell isn't even that good. Removal is good when you can hold on it and play it when you need it etc... 0 mana spells are good when you can play them even tapped out, gaining lots of tempo etc... A miracle alternate cost of 0 seems incredibly bland compared to any other way to play spells at 0 cmc like Daze or Fireblast. A Swords to plowshare that costed 0 but could only be played off topdeck wouldn't probably even be played.

What about something slightly more OP?

Uno! 5UUU
Sorcery
Take an extra turn after this one.
Miracle 1U

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Originally Posted by Zinch

Yeah, that is how it works.

In fact (until they release the comprehensive rules for this set, I guess) you can pair this creature with any number of creatures, because the only one that needs to be unpaired is the one entering the battlefield...

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I think the "another unpaired creature" instead on "an unpaired creature" is supposed to imply that the Paladin also has to be unpaired. Everything else would make the design kind of pointless flavorwise.

Also Vacrix, I definitely want to play that Uno! card with Noxious Revival :p

Ha good point.

Noxious Revival actually looks pretty dope with these Miracle cards. Good thing I have a playset.

Looting/Careful Study, Noxious Revival...Miracles will happen. :laugh:

Screw Noxious Revival, if there's multiple interesting miracles Scroll Rack has a shot at relevancy.

(Though the cynic in me responds that more likely we would just see 32 Brainstorms become the norm in all top 8s, and quite possibly 20-30 Jaces too.)

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Originally Posted by Nihil Credo

Screw Noxious Revival, if there's multiple interesting miracles Scroll Rack has a shot at relevancy.

(Though the cynic in me responds that more likely we would just see 32 Brainstorms become the norm in all top 8s, and quite possibly 20-30 Jaces too.)

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SDT is pretty strong with the miracle mechanic as well. They're most likely all instants (otherwise, it wouldn't make sense to cast a sorcery during your draw step). You can easily setup another miracle card during your opponent's turn and use the SDT draw to trigger it, as it isn't limited to your turn.

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Originally Posted by Mon,Goblin Chief

Everything else would make the design kind of pointless flavorwise.

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Maybe he has a dark swinger side.

Looks like all those Burn decks that are taking over Legacy will have to start maindecking Soldier of Fortune so the opponent's Burn deck doesn't just turn 3 a win. roffle roffle