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Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016
I'll hold my horses for the moment, this is probably going to be like Modern masters and co.
Super hig prices for some great cards and lots of crap. Also, seeing force and wasteland as first pics reminded me about From the vault 20. And that ended so well.
Sadly, as always, I'm willing to give them the benefit of doubt, hoping in a balanced product.
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Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016
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Originally Posted by
Barook
It's been confirmed to be reprint only. Print run is Modern Masters size (not confirmed if MMA or MM2-sized).
From the Wizards Play Network Eternal Masters page, the guaranteed supply for stores is as follows:
2–3 cases for WPN Core level stores
3–6 cases for WPN Advanced level stores
6–12 cases for WPN Advanced Plus level stores
Note that this is less than Modern Masters 2015, which had 2-3 cases, 5-6 cases, and 9-12 cases for the respective levels.
Source source
So I guess somewhat smaller than MM15, but probably bigger than the first MM, I think? MM15 can still be bought, but that probably has more to do with the crap EV than the print run.
Also worth noting is this quote from the wpn page: "It's designed to offer an extraordinary draft experience, plus enhance your players' Vintage, Legacy, and Modern decks."
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Originally Posted by
owerbart
Also i'm so fucking glad they didn't shoehorned jace into the FoW art.
OH GOD YES UGH! I didn`t even think of that, but yeah, me too a thousand times over. If asked to guess before seeing the card, I`d go 80% on fucking Jace. Instead we get this beautiful, badass neutral-flavoured art. Well done for once.
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Originally Posted by
Spam
I'll hold my horses for the moment, this is probably going to be like Modern masters and co.
Super hig prices for some great cards and lots of crap.
Yup. There`s absolutely no reason to expect this to be a complete list of needed reprints, they are stingy with their reprints and only reprint just enough good stuff to sell the set.
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Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016
Shit, I've heard that Maro has confirmed on his blog that new format is coming. Is there actaully some truth in that? Can somebody with tha internetz skillz confirm this?
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Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016
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Originally Posted by
Mr Miagi
Shit, I've heard that Maro has confirmed on his blog that new format is coming. Is there actaully some truth in that? Can somebody less lazy than me Google it so I won`t have to?
It`s a load of bullshit. Link here. Someone asked if it was a "if" or "when" whether theree would be a new constructed format (ever), and he replied "when". So at some point in the history of Magic: the Gathering, a new constructed format will appear. That is all that has ever been confirmed.
This whole idea of a new "Eternal" format is just people on the internet turning some baseless speculation into rumor into something that could possibly happen into something that will definitely absolutely happen. Remember about a month ago, when there was absolutely no way that SFM could possibly not be unbanned in Modern? That.
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Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016
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Originally Posted by
Mr Miagi
Shit, I've heard that Maro has confirmed on his blog that new format is coming. Is there actaully some truth in that? Can somebody with tha internetz skillz confirm this?
Just rumors, for now
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/...ed-list-legacy
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Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016
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Originally Posted by
Mr Miagi
Shit, I've heard that Maro has confirmed on his blog that new format is coming. Is there actaully some truth in that? Can somebody with tha internetz skillz confirm this?
You could check his blog.
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Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016
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Originally Posted by
wizard_of_gore
Rumors, no. This is someone mumbling about a random theory. He is suggesting to remove the cards on the reserved list from the format. This is air.
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Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016
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Originally Posted by
Bobmans
Rumors, no. This is someone mumbling about a random theory. He is suggesting to remove the cards on the reserved list from the format. This is air.
Yes, i know, but in discussion bellow are some discussion about making possible new eternal format independent from legacy or modern.
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Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016
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Originally Posted by
wizard_of_gore
Yes, i know, but in discussion bellow are some discussion about making possible new eternal format independent from legacy or modern.
It`s all hypothetical. They`re discussing a "what if". There are currently zero reasons to believe that WotC will introduce or establish such a format, and zero actual rumors floating around that they will.
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Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016
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Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016
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Originally Posted by
Quasim0ff
I'm quite happy, that they decided to keep the original quote on wasteland.
I always found that to be one of the best picked lines on any card
Agreed. I have a Word document at work and Word document at home of just neato quotes that I come across. Wasteland managed to make it onto both somehow.
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Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016
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Originally Posted by
MaximumC
Blue: Merfolk
White: Death and Taxes
Black: Pox
Red: Goblins or Burn
Green: Elves
Blue-White: Miracles
Blue-Black: Storm or Reanimator
Blue-Red: Delver
Blue-Green: Shardless
White-Black: Zombardment/Tokens?
White-Red: uh... Burn?
White-Green: Maverick
Black-Red: more... burn?
Black-Green: Nic Fit
Red-Green: Belcher
I think it will be focused on two color pairs like most sets.
UW-Merfolk (True Name nemesis, lord of Atlantis, cursecatcher, some white fish uses the control elements)
UB-Storm agreed
UR-Counter burn I don't think flip cards get printed here it's possible that goblin guide and monastery swift spear eidolon chain lightning and some other aggressive red blue cards make a deck here.
UG-Shardless WB-Death and taxes/Dead guy ale thalia and mother of runes inquisition etc.
WR-Humans fits with death and taxes but with a agro spin thalia and mother of runes fit here as well
BR-Goblins
BG-Elves - Deathrite shaman, nettle sentinel imperious perfect (I know it's not played but it's powerful in limited) maybe some green tutor effects
RG- Stompy this is where the dumb rares no one wants to open outside of an event will be. Simian spirit guide as ramp and a bunch of dumb big things no one really wants. There might be a naya zoo element with nacatl and the like.
Printing merfolk and goblins gives two decks that can use an aether vial which could fit the bill as a modern card available in the set. I could also see berserk getting a reprint here it could fit into the stompy deck
Has anyone considered them printing a strictly better dual land? Like what if it were a Tri land that tapped for colorless and the other two colors (like a wasted volcanic island <>,U,R) but was still fetchable.
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Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016
Basically, as someone who offloaded their collection in 2011 and kept the decks they had, I don't even really care what's in this set, even the duds I'd be happy to add to a collection.
If anything, this saves a lot of time for someone like me who needed Vintage/Legacy staples on-hand.
This is going to increase the player bases of both formats by, like, a lot. Especially if this becomes a biennial set. Glad Wizards is going to make a shit ton of money off of Vintage and Legacy, as far as I can tell, this is the first product specifically designed with those two formats in mind. If it's a success (which it obviously is going to be), I think people will definitely be hounding them even more than they are now about the RL...
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Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016
Edit:
Fake list. Never mind.
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Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016
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Originally Posted by
Rayek
This is going to increase the player bases of both formats by, like, a lot. Especially if this becomes a biennial set. Glad Wizards is going to make a shit ton of money off of Vintage and Legacy, as far as I can tell, this is the first product specifically designed with those two formats in mind. If it's a success (which it obviously is going to be), I think people will definitely be hounding them even more than they are now about the RL...
This. I think large interest in these formats expressed through WOTC making money off of them are the most likely routes to the eventual removal of the reserved list.
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Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016
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Originally Posted by
Bosque
This. I think large interest in these formats expressed through WOTC making money off of them are the most likely routes to the eventual removal of the reserved list.
I'm sure there is a cost benefit analysis that they've done. Once the expected income exceeds the likely class action lawsuit following the removal of the reserve list it'll happen. Hasbro is a business and its all about dollars and cents. Regardless of employee / manager sentiments they all answer to a board of directors that demand profits.
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Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016
Someone gave me this link;
http://m.imgur.com/a/sSKGY
List of cards in EM. Not sure if it is real or not.
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Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016
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Originally Posted by
Bobmans
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Cursed Scroll is on the RL. This list is fake.
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Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016
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Originally Posted by
Bobmans
Am I an idiot? I don't see any there here at all except for 'good cards I hope get reprinted'.
This list seems a little fishy to me.
Edit: spelling
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Re: Confirmed: Eternal Masters - June 10, 2016
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Originally Posted by
Koby
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Cursed Scroll is on the RL. This list is fake.
I do not consider the list fake just for the assumption that the RL will or will not be maintained.
Regardless, i don't think this list is real either.