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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
Echelon
I'd be up for a green Ponder. Gronder?
Nah, just take one of the cards and put the rest to the bottom/GY. Ponder is functionally different enough.
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Originally Posted by
wonderPreaux
On another note, seeing the Jhoira piloting the Weatherlight really makes me wish they still did those cheesy novels about the block's story arc. I'd buy up another set of those.
Aside from Jhoira, the new crew members seem pretty underwhelming - Nerd Angel, Not-Crovax: Twilight Edition (holy magic allowing him to walk in the sunlight as a vampire instead of dusting him is fucking stupid), a goddamn fungus, a descedant of Sisay and some boring illusionary mage.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
Super happy that Damping Sphere is not rare or mythic!
http://static.starcitygames.com/sale...pingSphere.jpg
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
Honestly, Oath of Nissa would have been a perfect Green Ponder if it just said "Permanent" instead of a bunch of restrictive hoo-ey.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
Darkenslight
They release them for free after the set's arc is complete. I have all of the stories from SoI onwards.
Also, the Saga art is really impressive.
Mind posting your collection or a link, maybe in a separate thread? Would be cool!
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
morgan_coke
Honestly, Oath of Nissa would have been a perfect Green Ponder if it just said "Permanent" instead of a bunch of restrictive hoo-ey.
I agree with this except giving tron another ponder would be pretty miserable
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
Megadeus
I agree with this except giving tron another ponder would be pretty miserable
Yeah, but only because WotC refuses to print decent land hate in Modern. Damping Sphere is a nice try, but it won't see any play.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
morgan_coke
Yeah, but only because WotC refuses to print decent land hate in Modern. Damping Sphere is a nice try, but it won't see any play.
I'm pretty certain it's going to see play in Modern as it serves as hate against Storm AND Tron in a format where sideboard space is premium.
http://mythicspoiler.com/dom/cards/cabalstronghold2.jpg
Was the "basic swamp" part really necessary? :rolleyes:
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
Dam, and yes. There is a land that makes everything swamps...
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
Dice_Box
Dam, and yes. There is a land that makes everything swamps...
Yeah - but without Urborg, this card is . . . bad?
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
morgan_coke
No. For High Tide Rewind would be strictly better 4 lands, can counter anything, and still sees zero play.
I don't agree, what creature except Thalia High Tide care to counter? With for lands, Unwind + High Tide is the engine, you need 5 lands with Rewind, one extra turn.
This doesn't means that Unwind is an auto include in High Tide, I just think is better than Rewind.
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Originally Posted by
Cire
Yeah - but without Urborg, this card is . . . bad?
Urborg don't change the supertype, they're still non basic swamps.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
procobrito
Urborg don't change the supertype, they're still non basic swamps.
I know - I was just saying the Urborg made Coffers decent but not broken, so the basic restriction wasn't really needed here.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Cire
I know - I was just saying the Urborg made Coffers decent but not broken, so the basic restriction wasn't really needed here.
The issue is EDH, not Legacy.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
Barook
Yeah that's too bad. This one is completely dead on arrival in Modern. Way too much cost for its payoff. You need 6 lands in play for this to even possibly be a +1 mana. Meanwhile Tron and Eldrazi Temple still exist.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
Barook
And it's more expensive. Cowards.
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Originally Posted by
Dice_Box
The issue is EDH, not Legacy.
Every time a card is printed with EDH in mind I end up hating that format a little more. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING good has ever come of WotC designing for EDH.
Frankly there are more than enough ways to answer Coffers+Urborg in the format already.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
Do note that even though Urborg makes everything a swamp, it doesn't make everything a basic swamp. Thus, it only works with Urborg and other basic lands. So, this card is probably unplayable outside of mono black.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
ReAnimator
Yeah this card will usually have no text box in Limited so it's safe at Uncommon.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Barook
Yea that card's costed to be actually functional. Love it.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
Easier Kicker, base Trample, bonus Vigilance? Yeah, that's a buff.
Sad thing is, I'm not sure it's playable in either form now. For 4R you can get Charging Monstrosaur (charge, trample, 5/5), and for 1G you can get Tarmogoyf (or in Standard, probably a good dozen cards that are better than a 2/2 with some rules text that mostly doesn't matter, because it's a 2/2).
Heck, for five mana (3WW) you can get an upgraded Baneslayer Angel lord.
Better Kavu Titan - probably just a limited card now. Ramunap Hydra was a 5/5 Vigilance/Trample for 3G that didn't really see much play.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
I mean I'm not expecting it to see tournament play anytime soon, but it's just an actually functionally costed take on the concept. It's a good card.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
Honestly as power-creeped as creatures are anymore, it would likely need to drop the 1 off the base cost and just cost G (+3 kicker) to be a serious tournament card, and even then, it would see limited amounts of play outside of maybe a R/G aggro deck, and still probably wouldn't get playing in Modern or Legacy.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
The nostalgia in this set is cool but it seems like everything costs 4+ and thus will probably have little impact on Legacy :mad:
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
maharis
The nostalgia in this set is cool but it seems like everything costs 4+ and thus will probably have little impact on Legacy :mad:
Oh, no, trust me, there's some real sleepers in there. I know people working on Cheeri0s in Modern with both Jhoira and Puresteel, for example. And Song of Freyalise is costed really aggressively.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
The new Karn will at least see sideboard play in Big Eldrazi and/or Steel Stompy, imho.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
Traxos, Scourge of Kroog 4
Legendary Artifact Creature - Construct
Trample
Traxos, Scourge of Kroog enters the battlefield tapped and doesn't untap during your untap step.
Whenever you cast an historic spell, untap Traxos
7/7
The untap ability, in an artifact deck seems super easy, could even maybe have psuedo vigilance in an artifact deck. Is a 7/7 trampler for 4 worth it?
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
If u have workshop it's great. Just keep moxens you don't need in your hand as a way to untap this.
In legacy yeah no. It's a good beater but tombs decks don't want a 4 mana vanilla.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
Colorless nettle sentinel makes me wary of what combo we have coming down the road.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
Cire
Traxos, Scourge of Kroog 4
Legendary Artifact Creature - Construct
Trample
Traxos, Scourge of Kroog enters the battlefield tapped and doesn't untap during your untap step.
Whenever you cast an historic spell, untap Traxos
7/7
The untap ability, in an artifact deck seems super easy, could even maybe have psuedo vigilance in an artifact deck. Is a 7/7 trampler for 4 worth it?
Sounds super busted in vintage with Volatic Key to untap Traxos, your Time Vault as well as Crypt, Vault and shit
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
MGB
The new Karn will at least see sideboard play in Big Eldrazi and/or Steel Stompy, imho.
Getting quite a bit of attention in the Pox crowd, definitely think it will become a 1-2 of in variants.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
happy to test this new artifact guy in some affinity builds. it seems pretty scary with a cranial plating. regular affinity needs some more must destroy cards.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
Gheizen64
If u have workshop it's great. Just keep moxens you don't need in your hand as a way to untap this.
In legacy yeah no. It's a good beater but tombs decks don't want a 4 mana vanilla.
Honestly, you definitely want a 7/7 trample to cast on turn 2 in MUD
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
The Kroog guy plays well with having Monolith and Key in the same deck, seems like some kind of big MUD aggro deck would be a good place for it.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
I think in legacy lodestone is a better card most of the time and see 0 play because casting it T2 is extremely inconsistent. This coming down T3 is nice but it dies to everything except AD. 4 mana threats need to at least protect themselves in this format to be playable imho. Reality smasher has haste, come down as fast as this with eldrazi lands if not arguably faster, and make your opponent 2-for-1 itself to remove it.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
Outside of Combo I don't think this is that good in Legacy. For 4 colorless wouldn't you just always rather have Lodestone or Thought-Knot Seer?
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
There's also this guy to combo with it. While it isn't on-demand, it can get around Chalice, unlike Voltaic Key:
http://mythicspoiler.com/dom/cards/voltaicservant1.jpg
T1 Sol Land, Grim Monolith, use Monolith to play this guy, untap Monolith Eot, go HAM on T2 with a minimum of 5 mana each turn.
Not sure if it can fit into any deck, but the filtering seems pretty nice and a 1/1 flyer for :u: isn't too shabby, either:
http://mythicspoiler.com/dom/cards/a...sassistant.jpg
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
Barook
Yea, there is a modern Cheerios deck this is going in.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
Really disappointed in the lands here. Figured they could have some kind of reference to some of the golden oldies, but.. not so much I guess.
One of the blandest sets for Land cards in years to be honest.
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Re: [DOM] Dominaria (Spring 2018)
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Originally Posted by
morgan_coke
Really disappointed in the lands here. Figured they could have some kind of reference to some of the golden oldies, but.. not so much I guess.
One of the blandest sets for Land cards in years to be honest.
Afaik both Cabal Stronghold and the blue land land that lets you draw 2 cards refer to such lands (Coffers & Academy).