[Official] Bitching About Prices, Buyouts and Reprints Thread

Would ABU even accept a return on a card that's been glued?

Why would they sell one in the first place?

Seems bad for a business model

Wouldn't the "blue layer" be really easy to see in a torn-in-half Lotus like that one? Hence ABU telling the card is legit? (since they might have seen said blue payer?)

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Originally Posted by dahcmai

Mentor of the Meek + Puresteel likes this guy

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It's in an intro pack, will probably hold the price down a little bit.

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Originally Posted by mchainmail

It's in an intro pack, will probably hold the price down a little bit.

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Oh that's good to know! He's an actually decent card. I've been trying him out in Maverick oddly enough. Good for a refill after a Perish hits you.

Booster boxes are usually around $90 right? Why are innistrad boxes listed for around $100 on the major online retailers? Did something change?

What's a fair price for foil Preordain now that it's banned in Modern?

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Originally Posted by Onslaught

What's a fair price for foil Preordain now that it's banned in Modern?

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Maybe the same as before Modern appeared. Somewhere around $10

When is a good time to unload my Riptide Labs?

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Originally Posted by Royal Ass.

Booster boxes are usually around $90 right? Why are innistrad boxes listed for around $100 on the major online retailers? Did something change?

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Most dealers get them at $85, so they usually only sell them around 90 as pre-orders or promotional stuff to make minimal profit but to attract people to the store.

Typical pricing tends to be $100-110 depending on if you buy online or from a brick and mortar retailer. That's not including shipping or applicable taxes.

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Originally Posted by Philipp802

When is a good time to unload my Riptide Labs?

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2 weeks ago

Foil Delver of Secrets is becoming expensive. Sellers on McM have it on sale for 8 eur/each...

If you are into tempo (Thresh/TA) might be worth getting those foils in foreign while they aren't that expensive yet. I mean Jap foil commons usually go for $25.

I've been a week without checking prices, and now Death Baron is the most expensive card in Shards? What happened there?

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Originally Posted by Mr.C

I've been a week without checking prices, and now Death Baron is the most expensive card in Shards? What happened there?

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Dude, Grimgrim EDH decks

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Originally Posted by Mr.C

I've been a week without checking prices, and now Death Baron is the most expensive card in Shards? What happened there?

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Wait what???

My 28 lord foil Zombie deck is expensive now??

Liliana of the Veil's price is rising pretty fast.

Ugh, really hope that's not Jace 2.0 again.

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Originally Posted by RaNDoMxGeSTuReS

Liliana of the Veil's price is rising pretty fast.

Ugh, really hope that's not Jace 2.0 again.

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I think all the hype is because she's actually decent. She won't be format shaping like Jace, however. She can't really win the game on her own. How good is she in standard?

She's pretty good in Standard. Unfortunately for her mono-red is much better at stomping control than control is at handling mono-red. Once the next few sets come out she could be a powerhouse though.

I think the biggest thing she told the standard format was that they can't have things like Geist of St Traft and Thrun to dominate control decks like normal. She does do a number on those two.

With the flashback she can actually use that first ability to hurt people while negating the drawback at the same time. People can bash the card all they like, but they are obviously bad deck builders to not see the synergy she offers.

I really doubt she'll go much higher since Solar Flare was cool and all, but it does have some serious weaknesses and people will figure it out quick. They always do, but I'm not telling just yet what it's problems are. The deck is damned fun.

lol @ Death Baron. That one kills me. At least the foils are easy to get.

What the hell happened to Goblin Settler? Why is eBay sold out of them, and there are people offering me $50 for mine? Aren't they, like, bad?

EDH? I know I ordered mine for that. Kiki-Jiki plus this guy equals some pissed off people. Plus it came from that stupid Starter set that is really really scarce.

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Originally Posted by dahcmai

lol @ Death Baron. That one kills me. At least the foils are easy to get.

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It has been at $3/4 for a while now. Obviously $7/8 is a little ridiculous, but so was $3/4. I know a dealer who makes a killing on cards like that and Nemesis of Reason, etc.

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Originally Posted by Mr.C

What the hell happened to Goblin Settler? Why is eBay sold out of them, and there are people offering me $50 for mine? Aren't they, like, bad?

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This card has been steadily going up in price for a while. Mostly due to scarcity. I could see them reprinting it under a different name like many other starter/portal cards.

But yeah, astral slide plus goblin settler is pretty hilarious as well.

There's also a slightly unknown Goblins variant running around I have been toying with. I built the thing as a joke and it's not bad so far. I still don't think it's good enough, but eh, all my friends though it interesting enough to start picking Settlers up and there weren't many to begin with. It's pretty obscure to begin with.

Basically, you can use Ruinblasters, Settlers, Ports, Wastes, and Phantasmal Images to get all LD crazy on people. I wanted to capitalize on those goblin hands that can just about lock any deck out due to mana denial. You know those types of god hands they get. It's kind of scary when a Goblin deck goes LD on you. It's already a fairly fast deck, but when it concentrates more on the land destruction and not damage it's possibly worse. Nothing like dropping Settlers on people from a Lacky hit. I use the double striker also to get in more chances to LD people.

Rough deck, but it's shaping up. That might have something to do with it as people test it online here and there. I hate red decks so I don't mess with it much, but it's promising if you see it.



Secondary little note. I'm a firm believer that Liliana's day is going to come to a fast end. I have a newer standard deck that's incredibly good and eats Solar flare and RDW for lunch. Liliana is soooo bad against it. RUG with Vengeance is definitely amazing stuff so you can expect her to go down some after it comes out at States.

Yeah, while Liliana is going up, my brain tells me that she's going to go down even though she's powerful and popular. Here's my reasoning:

Innistrad is the first set of a block. So, throughout the entire ISD draft season, there are always going to be ISD packs opened (we're going to have III, IID, IDX). Unlike Jace, who was both extremely powerful, popular, and rare (Worldwake was only opened in drafts with ZZW since ZEN was such a weird draft format), there should be a much higher number of Lilianas opened and on the market over time.

This is the same reason I'm holding off on Snapcasters - it's only a rare and there should be a huge number of them opened.

Eh, just trust that little write up I did on Innistrad. I usually am dead on and it's looking like this one will be also. Even down to the Kesseg Wolf Run being played. I actually didn't even think about Inkmoth when I wrote that so it's much better than I had even thought at the time. That's just sickening.

I saw a couple of decks with Olivia in them so looks like that one will eventually come out. Tree of Redemption I totally missed. Didn't think about it. It's a silly good sideboard card. Grab some while they are cheap. Sucks in Legacy of course, but I think about all formats. Snapcaster is about the only thing anyone in Legacy is going to care about.

I need to go find the New Phyrexia one I did and see how close that one was.

What is your prediction on Flusterstorm? Going up or down?

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Originally Posted by dahcmai

There's also a slightly unknown Goblins variant running around I have been toying with. I built the thing as a joke and it's not bad so far. I still don't think it's good enough, but eh, all my friends though it interesting enough to start picking Settlers up and there weren't many to begin with. It's pretty obscure to begin with.

Basically, you can use Ruinblasters, Settlers, Ports, Wastes, and Phantasmal Images to get all LD crazy on people. I wanted to capitalize on those goblin hands that can just about lock any deck out due to mana denial. You know those types of god hands they get. It's kind of scary when a Goblin deck goes LD on you. It's already a fairly fast deck, but when it concentrates more on the land destruction and not damage it's possibly worse. Nothing like dropping Settlers on people from a Lacky hit. I use the double striker also to get in more chances to LD people.

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It feels great to drop into play early off of a Lackey: Nice basic, thanks for playing around Wasteland.

Currently I run Settler as a one-of. I haven't come up with a brew with room for more. Which is just as well, since I haven't found any more copies. :/

I realize there's one on eBay right now... but $50 is a bit too much, IMO.

I think Flusterstorm will stay as it is. It's a good card, but VERY narrow.

-Matt

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Originally Posted by sdematt

I think Flusterstorm will stay as it is. It's a good card, but VERY narrow.

-Matt

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Just sold two at $25 each, god I love living in a small country with a limited supply.

I guess that every time someone wins a SCG with a sideboard card they dont have, people want it.

Matt's right on Flusterstorm. It's a good card, but it is really, really narrow. Every deck that wants it also really wants Spell Pierce. The two are fairly interchangeable. Pierce nails Jace, EE, and a few other goodies which is huge though. If you really fear High Tide, Flusterstorm is the better choice. It's a toss up. It's like comparing Smother to Snuff Out really. Both good, but situational.

$20 seems a little high for Flusterstorms actually since you can just buy the Commander deck and get one along with a Chaos Warp and a Sol Ring no less. People are stupid though. It's not hard to find those online at $30 still either.



Goblin Settler is actually starting to look like a decent price at $50 considering how hard it is to find them now. That was the lowest I could find. Kind of sucks when that happens.

Good to know i have 5 goblin settlers.

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Originally Posted by Mr.C

I've been a week without checking prices, and now Death Baron is the most expensive card in Shards? What happened there?

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People want to play their Zombie Tribal decks in modern, duh!

And just to make sure noone overpays for 1 flusterstorm, coolstuffinc has their polictical puppets deck in the on sale page for 19.99.

With that said, will snapcaster be the first rare in a while since mythics being introduced to get to a high price.
It already is more than any recent standard rare I can think of at this moment, but of course I don't always think very well.
Is the upcoming states going to make it go even more?

Is nobody aware that SCG has Flusterstorm for sale at $11.99? Where the hell are people going to buy these things for 20?

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Originally Posted by oldbsturgeon

With that said, will snapcaster be the first rare in a while since mythics being introduced to get to a high price.
It already is more than any recent standard rare I can think of at this moment, but of course I don't always think very well.
Is the upcoming states going to make it go even more?

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I'm pretty sure Standard and State Champs are what's pushing it up now. I'm expecting SCM to drop somewhat after states passes. Also, Innistrad hasn't been out too long. People are still drafting and cracking packs. The price will drop.

Wow goblin settler is 70? Last I checked it was around 5 dollars. Starter 1999 cards are officially the stupidest when it comes to pricing sans P3K; goblin settler isn't even playable in legacy or vintage sans maybe in goblins like some have said but even there I'm not sure if it's worth it.

Lulz I have one death baron from planechase; 15 dollars seems outrageous for that card but lol I'll gladly sell it for 8 or something.

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Originally Posted by Sims

People want to play their Zombie Tribal decks in modern, duh!

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Don't joke about that. We're 1 or 2 more ban list updates from that being the best deck.

Don't think it will happen. Though on the flip side of that coin, with vial and enough good 1-2 drops from this block, a 12 lord zombie deck might actually get there.