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Re: Raise, raise, raise. The price of cardboard
Right sorry.
Anyway... I somehow doubt that the demand for SoFaI isn't going to decrease because of price. Seems like shops know that legacy players are prepared to shell out a lot of money for cards. SoFaI as a singleton isn't going to stop anyone from buying the card even at this price.
The could do this with every (rare) card that is only printed once...
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Anyone notice this on SCG:
Force of Will: $74.99
Tarmogoyf: $69.99
Makes me glad I picked these up earlier last year.
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Korean 5th Necropotence - SCG listing at 220.00 USD now for NM/M; up 70.00 USD.
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SCG's prices are much, much higher than other places I've found online. I've only ordered once from SCG, and that's because I was using store credit. Unless SCG is your only option (need a playset ASAP and they're the only online retailer in stock, etc), I don't understand why people would buy from them.
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Arsenal
SCG's prices are much, much higher than other places I've found online. I've only ordered once from SCG, and that's because I was using store credit. Unless SCG is your only option (need a playset ASAP and they're the only online retailer in stock, etc), I don't understand why people would buy from them.
Their foil prices tend to be very reasonable, and they have just about everything if you need a lot of random stuff. Also, +25% credit (so if you're trading in Jaces, it could be really worth your while)
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Nessaja
...The could do this with every (rare) card that is only printed once...
I tend to disagree. I have just about every Legacy staple and a very good job and I don't think I would even pay that much for EVERY rare that was only printed once. I am pretty sure that there are plenty of frugal and/or non-financially privileged enough to play along at that price.
If you already have a lot of Legacy cards and you can at least make even trades then all you need to do is trade your XYZ newly expensive card for someone else's ABC newly/old expensive card. What I am saying is, is that if everything rises more or less together then price increases don't really hurt you that much. HOWEVER, if you are the new guy and look at an OMG_SOOO_MUCH_MONEY_FOR_THIS_MERFOLK_DECK.dec and it's the cheapest deck to play he/she may chose to play another format instead of try to break in. IMO these prices will slowly choke off the new guy and/or the on the fence to start playing guys. It will also cause players to "cash out" i.e. hit their walk away price. I really like my cards and the memories but if someone offered me let's say $50K for my cards in cash there is no way I wouldn't just hand them all over without a second thought. I am pretty sure I'd rebuy all the legacy cards online. Then I would buy a boat and a car for my wife OR just put a hefty down payment on a house. I am sorry to say but prices can not go up forever at the rate they are. But hey maybe I'm wrong and the college student is going to shell out $800 for his goyf playset... and $1200 for his tropical islands.
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mchainmail
Their foil prices tend to be very reasonable, and they have just about everything if you need a lot of random stuff. Also, +25% credit (so if you're trading in Jaces, it could be really worth your while)
Most of the time, I don't even see that being worth it. Their buylist seems to be down at the moment but I am assuming they will give you like 80$ for your jace and so you get 100$ store credit after the 25%. But thats store credit, so now you have to spend it on all their very overpriced products. Again if you need a random mix of odd one of's, or need a bunch of staples FAST it's not a bad idea but unless I was desperate I wouldn't trade in a Jace, or any cards for that matter, to SSG.
Also, in the past 24~ hours or so it seems like Arcbound Ravager has sold out up to 28$ most places. I find this funny cause the affinity deck that got 1st in SSG Dallas this past weekend doesn't run ravagers...
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I was talking about buying cards at SCG vs. other online retailers, not selling stuff to them. And sure, the 25% trade-in sounds nice, but since their prices tend to be higher anyway, it isn't quite as attractive as it sounds.
I'm not saying that every single card they carry is overpriced, but I went down their frontpage buylist, checked to see how much they were selling those staples for, then checked a different online retailer what they're selling those same staples for, and the difference was quite telling.
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At the risk of repeating what's already been said, Sword of Fire and Ice being sold out in online stores (I just checked myself) and the same stores charging so much for it if it's in stock is hilarious, but at the same time very frightening. Who the hell knows which card is next? Fortunately, I think the price will fall quickly. But still.
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Arsenal
I was talking about buying cards at SCG vs. other online retailers, not selling stuff to them. And sure, the 25% trade-in sounds nice, but since their prices tend to be higher anyway, it isn't quite as attractive as it sounds.
I'm not saying that every single card they carry is overpriced, but I went down their frontpage buylist, checked to see how much they were selling those staples for, then checked a different online retailer what they're selling those same staples for, and the difference was quite telling.
Okay, their staple price is high. Now let's look at this, and see if we can figure out a reason. Oh yeah. They run tournaments. A lot of them. And they want to have the cards in stock. Go figure.
Now, a NM FBB Plateau is only $100 ( http://sales.starcitygames.com//sear...0&Go.y=0&Go=Go ) which is $20 cheaper than http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trk...All-Categories .
Another example is Foil Dark Confidant (although SCG is sold out at the moment)
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mchainmail
I generally don't use ebay/bidding/auctions sites as a barometer for card prices, but if you do, that's fine I guess. When I'm determining if a retail store is overcharging, I will typically look to other comparable retail stores (ie. online store, physical location, etc). Also, the reason behind Retail A charging $75 for a product and Retail B charging $58 for the same product doesn't matter to me, the only thing that matters is the $17 difference.
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11 SOFI Incoming. Cha Ching!
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birds of paradise2
11 SOFI Incoming. Cha Ching!
Congratulations. That was an oh so insightful decision.
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trivial_matters
Congratulations. That was an oh so insightful decision.
My pleasure. I'd say it added more value to the thread than your reply though.
Anyhow, what do you guys is the next biggest card? Let's speculate!
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RaNDoMxGeSTuReS
Anyone notice this on SCG:
Force of Will: $74.99
Tarmogoyf: $69.99
Makes me glad I picked these up earlier last year.
Incredible. They were selling both for $60.00 in Dallas this weekend.
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Most of these cards are still a lot cheaper in Europe. Maybe its worth buying them here...
This may change, when GP Amsterdam is getting closer...
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MSC
Most of these cards are still a lot cheaper in Europe. Maybe its worth buying them here...
The situation will rectify itself soon enough, cards always used to be more expensive in mainland Europe and more expensive still in the UK. Regards, Michael
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birds of paradise2
Anyhow, what do you guys is the next biggest card? Let's speculate!
Island. Go buy your playsets now...
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birds of paradise2
My pleasure. I'd say it added more value to the thread than your reply though.
Anyhow, what do you guys is the next biggest card? Let's speculate!
Actually, it really didn't; I'm quite certain your post makes no sense what so ever and really offers no more insight into your purchasing tendencies other than the fact you waited until a card shot up almost 110% of its most recent accepted value value and then went out and bought almost a dozen, probably tearing a hole in your wallet the size of the Chicxulub crater.
And I am picketing Legacy, by the way. The format is all-around getting far too expensive to keep up on and unless a major overhaul comes into place, you can count me out of this bullshit.
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I'm pretty sure the best way for these card prices to go down is to start printing cards that slowly change the meta-game.
We look at legacy staples because they fit a certain schema - low casting cost, powerful, and generally awesome to cast.
If we start seeing more and more cards printed in newer sets that fit this description, then not only will legacy have more toys to play with, but newcomers wont have to spend $1-2k on a deck.
I believe this trend has already started, what with cards like Leonin Arbiter and Phyrexian Revoker. The hardest part of this is to come up with cards that not only work within this template in their respective Standard environments, but cooperate with the older cards nicely.
Imagine a world where Force of Will and Dual Lands are wholly unnecessary to pilot a tier 1 deck. The reprint policy isn't the problem. The community and WotC needs to work together to grow the format, and that means printing newer, playable cards.
