[Deck] Zoo

Barely ever encounter a real problem between the Lavamancer and Knight. If looks bad on papper but it barely every happends in a real game. Both cards are to good to cut of. I play 3 knights as well, I think playing 3 Stoneforge is 1 to many when you only use Jitte and the collar as your equipments. I use 2 Stoneforge 1 jitte, 1 sofi, 1 sols and extra stoneforge in the board with an extra Jitte and a collar. Love the Stoneforge package. Bit slower then 20 spells versions but more treats and the protection given by the swords are very useful.

So that means you have time to set all that up? Just curious

Got second today at TOGIT's Recall tournament with Survival Zoo. List and Report to follow.

But as a teaser, the matchups...

2-1 MonoRedSligh
2-0 MonoUFolk
2-1 Zoo
2-1 Deadguy Ale
ID
ID
Quarters:2-0 Zoo
Semis:2-1 UBFolk
Finals:1-2 Natural Order Elves. Still reeling.

Can you post your list please?

Second sentence in, he says List and Report to come.

wow.

I just won a 24-ish ppl event yesterday with big zoo!
Here is the list (it has been posted before) and a micro-report:

// Lands
1 [U] Savannah
1 [OD] Plains (3)
1 [RAV] Forest (2)
3 [TE] Wasteland
2 [FUT] Horizon Canopy
2 [U] Plateau
2 [U] Taiga
2 [ZEN] Arid Mesa
4 [ON] Wooded Foothills
4 [ON] Windswept Heath

// Creatures
3 [ARB] Qasali Pridemage
4 [FUT] Tarmogoyf
3 [TO] Grim Lavamancer
4 [CFX] Noble Hierarch
4 [ALA] Wild Nacatl
4 [CFX] Knight of the Reliquary

// Spells
2 [LG] Sylvan Library
2 [CFX] Path to Exile
4 [4E] Swords to Plowshares
4 [RAV] Lightning Helix
2 [ALA] Ajani Vengeant
2 [ALA] Elspeth, Knight-Errant

// Sideboard
SB: 3 [TSP] Krosan Grip
SB: 2 [DK] Tormod's Crypt
SB: 2 [IA] Pyroblast
SB: 2 [4E] Red Elemental Blast
SB: 3 [LRW] Gaddock Teeg
SB: 3 [SHM] Faerie Macabre

round 1: Death'n Taxes (green splash) Win 2-1
G1: Tough game. Tarmos + Mother of Runes are really annoying. Eventually Swords + Knight + Elspeth get there.
G2: He has Kitchen Finks this time joining the utility creatures. Some Mangara of Corondor tricks plus a horde of creatures kill me rather quickly.
G3: I Wasteland his lands and Grip his Vials. I kill him in short order.

1-0

round 2: U/G survival madness. Win 2-1
G1: I don't have an answer for his early Survival and I die turn 3 killed by flying Vengevines.
G2: He gets a Game Loss for bad deck registering. Lucky me.
G3: I sideboard Grips, Faeries and Crypts. I get to Grip a Survival. I Remove from the game a Vengevine and some Wild Mongrels and he can't get the engine going again. A big Knight gets there.

2-0

round 3: Zoo. Lost 1-2
G1: I basically can´t keep up with the constant stream of creatures. I lose. I really thought that the "mirror" should be easy for me. The result gets me a bit sad.
G2: I don't sideboard anything. I'm sure I should be able to beat Zoo with the main deck. This time I manage to do it.
G3: He beats me again. I just don't draw enough removal or threats. :(

2-1

round 4: Led-less Dredge. Win 2-0
G1: He mulligans to 5. I keep my initial 7. He starts playing a City of Brass. I Wasteland. He then does nothing. I win fast with a Knight.
G2: I side in Teegs, Faeries and Crypts. I draw a Crypt and 2 Faeries in my initial 7. He starts with Cabal Therapy naming naming Relic of Progenitus (fail). I play land, Crypt. He get his dredging started but I remove some creatures from the game (Path to Exile was great ;) and use my Crypt when needed. Knight does his thing again.

3-1

round 5: Merfolk. ID
This guy always plays Merfolk. His deck is very tight and he is a very good player. Luckily we agree to ID and we go to the top8.

3-1-1

TOP8

round 6: Ug Merfolk. Win 2-0
G1: He never gets into the game. I control the board and Hierarchs + Knight beat him to death.
G2: More of the same.

quarter finals: Eva Green. Win 2-1
G1: Tight game. But I get to control the game with planeswakers.
G2: I mull to 4!! I play land Nacatl. He plays land. I play land. He plays Hymn to Tourach! :S And I go into top deck mode.
It was a long game and I almost won it!! But in the end he had too much removal.
G3: I win playing turns.

finals: Merfolk. Win 2-1
This is the guy I ID with.
G1: I win fairly easy with big threats.
G2: He beats me. I make some mistakes out of tiredness and he doesn't forgive that.
G3: Long game. Swords and planeswalkers get me there.

WIN the tournament!!
I got two foil Natural Orders and a foil Burning Wish for my troubles.
Great tourney. Great deck.


By far the best tech are the Hierarchs and Knights. They win games.
Also planeswalkers are great recovering from bad situations when the game goes long.

a "zoo" deck w/o lightning bolts... i think its more like naya midrange than zoo.

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a "zoo" deck w/o lightning bolts... i think its more like naya midrange than zoo.

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Well, I commented before that this deck might not be a Zoo deck any more.
But I feel that the discussion should start here anyway.

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Also planeswalkers are great recovering from bad situations when the game goes long.

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Let me start off to concratulate you on your result.

I'm in doubt a bit when it comes to above statement. Not that they're bad cards (not at all) but is it not so that because of the high casting costs of these cards and the way the deck is constructed you enter games that go long more often? In other words if you would play a fast list with more burn you wouldn't get to the long game and thus there would be no need for those cards in the first place.

Now on a totally different subject. I have been playing UWT for a while and I've grown very fond of its sideboard which utilizes an Enlightened Tutor toolbox.
Since combo decks have been slowed down by the banning of Mystical Tutor I have the feeling it's worth running anti combo cards again in Zoo's sidebard. So I have started constructing a different type of sideboard with this in mind. At the moment its still in its concept stage:

3 Enlightened Tutor

1 Wheel of Sun And Moon
1 Relic of Progenitus
1 Tormod's Crypt

1 Ethersworn Canonist
1 Thorn of Amethyst
2 Gaddock Teeg

3 Krosan Grip

1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Path To Exile

What do you think? (about the card choices and/or about the concept in general)

I actually like the idea of an enlightened tutor board quite a bit, as I've tried such things in the past not with zoo, but other decks. My only concern with the Enlightened Tutor Board is that it might cost too much tempo. Say versus dredge turn 1 enlightened tutor into wheel sucks up our first two turns of mana. Likewise against combo, and they can still wish for answers. That said, since we have a very aggressive deck it's very likely that this type of board would work very well.

I think the GY hate is too much, since I'd rather get wheel to shut them down completely, or crypt for tempo, and relic is pretty meh in general when we have lavamancers, goyfs, and knights. Plus I think that much hate is unnecessary.

Two combo hate targets seem good. I like canonist and I like having a second target with thorn. I'm not sure about Teegs in the board. I've generally just hated them whenever I've played them, main or not.

Also, the board should have at least one blood moon. It'd be nice to have outs to lands.

I think the tutor board is most effective vs. dredge, combo, and lands. I'm not sure that there's back-breaking enchantments or artifacts in other colors. Perhaps you could find room for a choke, but I'm not sure you want to be boarding in tutors and a choke in blue MUs. It may be necessary against good blue control decks, but I'm not sure.

That said, I'd probably run a base of:

3 Enlightened Tutor
1 Wheel of sun and moon
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Ethersworn Canonist
1 Thorn of Amythyst
1 Blood moon
(8 slots for the tutor part)

2 Krosan Grip
2 Duergar Hedge Mage
2 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Magus of the moon

Leaving 7 "regular" sideboard cards. I filled it in with things that I tend to run, but You could use them for whatever else you'd like.

http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...14-10&p=481631

Report/List are up, as promised. Will happily answer questions here or there.

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LNow on a totally different subject. I have been playing UWT for a while and I've grown very fond of its sideboard which utilizes an Enlightened Tutor toolbox.

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I think an Enlightened Tutor toolbox is a great idea. I'm leaning towards building my maindeck to destroy "fair" decks (like the mirror, Merfolk, and Goblins), while loading the sideboard with toolbox hate. I'm thinking of adding an Ensnaring Bridge (for the Show and Tell type decks) and a Pithing Needle (which is always handy game 2 when you know what to target early and can find your Needle with ET).

Since my meta is going back to traditional Counterbalance control, I'm thinking about cutting Lightning Helix and adding 3x Ancient Grudge, and 1x Teeg or something of that sort. This may not seem very optimal for an overall metagame, but in one where Counterbalance is always half the room, it seems the way to go. Plus I'm kinda not liking Lightning Helix as much as I used to, and there isn't very much true aggro so it seems like the right call.

Also, after playing Dragon Stompy for a good two months in tournaments, I wanna develop some sort of BloodMoon/Zoo list. It seems far fetched but I have seen the power of Blood Moon over and over again, and kinda wanna "innovate". So people with constructive comments about BloodZoo would be greatly appreciate.

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I think an Enlightened Tutor toolbox is a great idea. I'm leaning towards building my maindeck to destroy "fair" decks (like the mirror, Merfolk, and Goblins), while loading the sideboard with toolbox hate. I'm thinking of adding an Ensnaring Bridge (for the Show and Tell type decks) and a Pithing Needle (which is always handy game 2 when you know what to target early and can find your Needle with ET).

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Personally I wouldn't want to cloud my sideboard with too many targets. I would focus on the really tough match-ups (combo) and make use of other solutions against the other decks. For instance I wouldn't put in Aura of Silence because it's tutor-able but would stick to Krosan Grip because its better.

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I think the GY hate is too much, since I'd rather get wheel to shut them down completely, or crypt for tempo, and relic is pretty meh in general when we have lavamancers, goyfs, and knights. Plus I think that much hate is unnecessary.

Two combo hate targets seem good. I like canonist and I like having a second target with thorn. I'm not sure about Teegs in the board. I've generally just hated them whenever I've played them, main or not.

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I think you have to take into account that you rather draw the hate than that you tutor for it. Also it is possible that they have an answer for your graveyard hate so you need to increase the chance of drawing or tutoring for another piece of hate.

I would maybe be inclined to make use of 2 Enlightened Tutors and add a hate piece for each match up. That takes one slot more but I feel that it is important to have enough hate to battle those match-ups because otherwise its of no use and we could just as well not run any combo hate.

Also, if I compare this deck to UWT we also miss a way to counter spells so that means we need more hate that those decks that also run counter-suite.

I've been a great fan of Teeg but it all depends on taste and metagame I guess.

@ Loxodon: I think if you want to go for a Bloodzoo deck RG sligh might be a better option. If you want to go three colors, you probably want to make use of Noble Hierarch. Maybe you should make red the third color so you can basically go for (simplyfied) plains, Loam Lion, forest Pridemage, mountain Blood Moon.

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Originally Posted by Loxodon Baileyarch

Stompy for a good two months in tournaments, I wanna develop some sort of BloodMoon/Zoo list. It seems far fetched but I have seen the power of Blood Moon over and over again, and kinda wanna "innovate". So people with constructive comments about BloodZoo would be greatly appreciate.

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I guess you are already famailiar with "Blood Zoo" or "BB Zoo" from the old extended. Otherwise: http://www.deckcheck.net/deck.php?id=33131

Yeah I was thinking I would have to run more basics and runs Hierarch, and I would wanna keep it three colors. It would slow down my build that's "slower" than the sligh variants, but I would wanna play it anyway. Plus, I wanted to go the whole slower more control-ish route instead of a sligh version. It would remind me almost of standard Naya but without the cuteness factor of BBElf or any of that expensive stuff.

Aura of silence doubles as both combo hate and enchantment/artifact removal. It also cripples enchantress pretty hardcore, one of this decks more troublesome MUs. Aura of silence makes combo's LED's, chrome moxen, and lotus petals pretty bad, especially if they cannot make enough mana with rituals to combo off or are relying on casting AN with no mana floating after spending 3BB. But it is a little slow being 3 mana. An e. tutor toolbox is appropriate for some metagames but the real question is, what MUs does it improve? Is it worth the tempo loss/card disadvantage? Why is this approach to the SB better than more 'traditional' SB approach?

What do you guys think about the 3/2 can't be target of spells or ability's target opponent controls and regenerate 2 over knight of the reliquary.
I played against a zoo deck with it and lost all the games almost on him so...
I think that's a quite good card if you ask me?
What do you guys think?

About my sideboard, it's like this:
3x choke
3x REB
2x krosan grip
3x relic of progenitus
4x leyline of sancity

but I need room for 3 gaddock teegs so what I would cut?
Was thinking of 2x grip and & leyline of sancity?

Lemme know

I think its worth against the real combo decks like AN variants & Dredge. Especially against Dredge we need a turn 2 (or 1) hate piece. AN give us some more time but I wouldn't want to wait too long. I think that against these decks the Tempo loss/card disadvantage is definitely worth it.

Personally I'm willing to ignore Enchantress. Of all the time that I play of Legacy I only encountered that deck once or twice. But if its part of someones meta-game then why not put 1 or 2 in the board.

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What do you guys think about the 3/2 can't be target of spells or ability's target opponent controls and regenerate 2 over knight of the reliquary.
I played against a zoo deck with it and lost all the games almost on him so...
I think that's a quite good card if you ask me?
What do you guys think?

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Troll Ascetic you man? It seems a bit slow and the GG can be a problem, especially when facing a deck with wastelands. Knight of the Reliquary can swing for a lot of damage. Did the deck also run Jitte?

yes jitte and collar, collar is a great card...
And kotr is just a PTE and it's gone so idk ^^

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What do you guys think about the 3/2 can't be target of spells or ability's target opponent controls and regenerate 2 over knight of the reliquary.
I played against a zoo deck with it and lost all the games almost on him so...
I think that's a quite good card if you ask me?
What do you guys think?

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I've played Troll Ascetic before and he is unbelieavbly slow and mana consuming. I wouldn't recommend him. Yes, he can be a problem with Jitte and/or Collar, but that is a lot of mana tied up in one, ok-ish creature.

okej than I stay with kotr-fireblast :D

Your dudes are gonna die, that's why it sucks to open a hand wiht KOTR/goyf in it in most cases. Getting in there with kitties for some damage, then dropping fat will usually always get you there. And if they hold removal for your fat, the lil one's are still doing their job so it's not so bad.

http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...llection/page2

New report, top 4 The Portal in a ~30 person tournament for a From The Vault:Relics. Back to a more traditional build, but I really liked it. Played a lot of good games today.

This is my new list after some tournements:

4 Wild Nacatl
3 Grim Lavamancer
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Qasali Pridemage
3 Knight Of The Reliquary
2 stoneforge mystic
20

4 Lightning Bolt
2 flame slash --> great against all creatures and also kills RWM (really good card, it doesn't damage on a player but it's good)
2 Lightning Helix
2 Fireblast
4 Path to Exile
1 swords to plowshares (I like an extra stp instead of a lightning helix bcs that it destroys much more)
2 elspeth (this is a bomb and a win against counterbalance decks)
1 jitte
1 SOFI (my meta is full of, gobblins zoo and merfolk and bant, so there it's really good against)
1 sylvan library (for late game if you don't make it, and also good in general)
20

3 Taiga
3 Plateau
1 Savannah
4 Arid Mesa
4 Wooded Foothills
2 Windswept Heath
1 Mountain
1 Forest
1 Plains
20

SB: (so many graveyard-hate bcs of quite some decks in our meta and keep losing from them so)
3 Choke
2 Red Elemental Blast
1 Pyroblast
1 Tormod's Crypt
2 relic of progenitus
1 ravenous trap
3 gaddock teeg
2 price of progress

Played 2 tournaments with this list: 1 top 8 and the other 15th :(
But yeah if you got questions ask them.
ty

Ps: I really don't know why you guys like steppe lynx so much, he's really a death card in mid and late game lol?

You don't know why Lynx is good because you've never played with him. Knights turn it on in the mid/late game, simply playing fetchlands frugally turns it on mid/late game. The possibility of attacking for 4/5 on turn two far outweighs the benefits of a mana intensive SFM package, IMHO. I'm sure others will reluctantly chime in on the lynx debate, but it distills down to speed or stability. Which does the player prefer?

okej, than I'm going to test it.
But, what's the right number to play than?
And lynx + kotr is also quite good don't you think :O?

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You don't know why Lynx is good because you've never played with him. Knights turn it on in the mid/late game, simply playing fetchlands frugally turns it on mid/late game. The possibility of attacking for 4/5 on turn two far outweighs the benefits of a mana intensive SFM package, IMHO. I'm sure others will reluctantly chime in on the lynx debate, but it distills down to speed or stability. Which does the player prefer?

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Lynx may be twice as big on the attack sometimes, but it's still a 0/1 on defense almost always. 2/3 blockers are important in a lot of matchups, from Goblins to Ichorid. That's why I still play Kird Ape.

yeah, tested them a little on this midday and I don't think I want them instead of something else^^
they die to fast.

Srry Bant, but your decklist is weaksauce. You play Elspeth with only 20 lands and 0 Noble Hierarch, which is just slow and bad. You play Flame Slash which is alot worse than you make it sound. Lightning Helix is clunky. Jitte is really a 4 drop and SOFI a 5drop, and all on 20 Lands. Wasteland cripples you. You play Fireblast and only 4 1drop creatures beaters. The random STP is random. Why do people think SFM is good enough for this deck? I hate equipment, losing your creature in response to the equip is so huge.

Where is Chain Lightning?
Where is Kird Ape/Loam Lion?

I just feel like it's seriously lacking in focus.

Not picking here, but it honestly seems like a player wanting to be original and making a few changes to an established archetype to call their own. If that's what a player wants out of the game then more power to them. HOwever, hocking a list that's no where near a honed deck is sort of naive. Play with the proven lists first, then make changes for stronger cards for a specific metagame/tournament. Being honest with oneself is really the only way to become a better player.

It really ain't a bad list, tested it soo much.
I never lose against gobblins, merfs and zoo (sometimes but yeah).
Problems are combo (ofc), and graveyard^^.
But elspeth helps there alot, and no it isn't to slow.
The flame slash were just a test, would replace that with chain lightnings or searing blaze.

could also put in loam lions/kird apes but don't really need them.
I've got 7 1-drops. Seems enough.
I've played the original list but I like mine more.

Okej, I think your way to traditional.
Test some more things...
Like chains, they are good but sorcery, and I don't like that so I play things with other ability's that
are 2cmc and gife you life or do damage at a player.

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I've got 7 1-drops. Seems enough.

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It's really not. If you double this number, you will have enough.

4 lions and 4 kird apes or what lol?
Serious, steppe lynx is a pritty death card if you don't have it before turn 3^^
lions and kird apes are oké but yeah.
I'll try them.

You don't seem to get it. I was, and still am, being objective and pointing out that through shared experience, there exists one or more lists that are well honed enough to pick up as is and win. Deviating from those lists can be both good and bad.

You don't know what list I have, I doubt you took the time to look back a few pages to check it out.

My logic was that you "liking" cards doesn't make them good in the deck. I am skeptical about your results against easy matchups and the mirrow, as you contradict yourself by saying you don't actually lose to them but not really (paraphrasing). In what way does an Elspeth help against Combo and Dredge? Lots of your claims aren't backed up, therefore a lot of people aren't going to take your comments seriously.

Furthermore, the reason I suggested Lynx is that while it has the potential to be a dead card often enough like a few other cards in the deck, the strength it gives to the start of the game shouldn't be overlooked or dismissed so easily. With the card in the deck, one must have a different mentality towards how the deck is to be played out against each matchup possible. A mulligan to 6 for a Lynx often enough hasn't been a bad move in my experience. I wouldn't ship back a Nacatl hand for a Lynx hand but the principle remains: ~10 damage by turn 4 will usually be game, any faster and its a lock. More often than not I have had turn 3 kills. I feel that in the metagame in which I play it is necessary to be speedy, and I also feel that same mind set can translate easily into any other metagame. Good luck.

The steppe lynx argument honestly shouldnt even be an argument for those that have played with him. Ive heard so many times zoo players complain on turn 4 "oh my steppe lynx doesnt do anything now" after i had just saw them get in for 8 total on turns 2 and 3. except you paid one white for 8 damage if not more? not to mention alot of blue draws have to straight up Fow lynx. Maybe its just my meta, but with all the new herizons/ mana denial 21/22 land is probly right anyway. Steppe lynx is just the absolute nuts. Its really not dead in the mid and late game either, you never draw fetches? man i wish i could be that lucky. also if you do you just run them out there?

and bantftw no herizon canopy? that card is pretty silly with kotr, and just in general.

^^Those are all points I was tying into. People look at the card in a vacuum mindset and immediately write it off as weak. Also, simply changing mentality when playing withh Lynx will help the player utilize its strengths better by not just running out fetchlands for example. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Lynx lets your rip a land and be a hero. The card turns 1/3 of your deck into damage spells, essentially.

Okej, it's true maar the Elspeth is just good against all decks.
And is canopy than so good with kotr? Need to test it, probably yeah :P
And bout lynx, it's a good card but I don't like it so not playing it.
My deck is a littlebit slower but yeah, I like stoneforge alot.
And Jandax, I can't find your build, could you post a link?

ty

For an always-changing metagame that has a high percentage of Goblins players (we had 2, almost 3 last week at our local if someone hadn't have switched last minute), how effective can Steppe Lynx be?

I gave the following list a shot; it was created in haste and does not have the best card choices, but I went 3-1 at our local this week with it. Basically took Hatfield's list and filled in the gaps of what we did not have within the team, for some reason no one had the fourth Lavamancer or Chokes for the SB.


// LANDS
4 Wooded Foothills
3 Windswept Heath
3 Arid Mesa
2 Plateau
2 Savannah
2 Taiga
4 Horizon Canopy
1 Forest/Mountain/Plains

// CREATURES
4 Wild Nacatl
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Qasali Pridemage
4 Steppe Lynx
1 Kird Ape
3 Grim Lavamancer
1 Gaddock Teeg

// SPELLS
3 Sylvan Library
4 Path to Exile
4 Lightning Bolt
3 Chain Lightning
2 Fireblast


// SIDEBOARD
2 Gaddock Teeg
1 Karakas
3 Tormod's Crypt
2 Swords to Plowshares
2 Knight of the Reliquary
3 Krosan Grip
2 Pyroblast


I hadn't seen Goblins in about two weeks there, so I didn't think to bring any tech against them. I read earlier in the thread that Pyroclasm is okay against them (or Fallout if Merfolk is present), so I will probably try that out next week. Steppe Lynx was subpar all day, but probably only because of my matchups.


I played the following Rounds:

R1) UGr CounterTop (Jace, Firespout, Goyf, Shackles) - Win 2-1 thanks to a well timed Krosan Grip freeing up the removal I had in my hand for his Goyfs and Pyroblasting a Jace after boards. g1 was pretty embarassing, I was on 2 land the entire game and he stole a Steppe Lynx with Shackles and beat my face in with it.

+3 Krosan Grip, +2 Pyroblast, -1 Gaddock Teeg, -4 Steppe Lynx


R2) BGW Nelson Rock + Elspeth - Win 2-1, lose g1 to a horrible punt when I glance at the Teeg on the board and think it's a Pridemage, I swing a dude right into a giant Knight, bolt it, and he activates it in response. I bring in my own Swords and Knights, and both games, burning him out after sticking a Sylvan Library/removing his dudes.

+2 Swords to Plowshares, +2 Knight of the Reliquary, -4 Steppe Lynx


R3) RB Goblins - Lose 0-2, I keep shady 2-landers on the play each game and fail to see the next land. Had to pay 8 life with Sylvan Library in g2 to find a third land, by that time the game was pretty much over. Really needed a board sweeper.

+2 Swords to Plowshares, +2 Knight of the Reliquary, -3 Steppe Lynx, -1 Gaddock Teeg


R4) RB Golbins - Win 2-1, different build but each game consists of the other drawing lands, with the victor being the person who drew less.

Boarding the same as in R3.



Basically the entire night I felt like Lynx was the weakest card in my deck against any of those matchups (except maybe the Rock matchup). What would you guys have boarded if you were in my position? Thanks for feedback.

I'm testing now the list you play but no lynx, instead loam lion/kird apes^^
So, they're pritty much better atm xD

gr