Tournament time... I'll update you guys throughout the day.
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Tournament time... I'll update you guys throughout the day.
I am curious. Best of luck to you! *cheer*
GL hollywood!
Do your best!
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vlad Teppes
Sorry for the delayed reporting. I wound up going 1-2 drop on the heels of facing Jank Reanimator, traditional Reanimator and triple Surgical Extraction-Deathrite-Scavenging Ooze-Four Color Cascade. These decks were all over the place and it was a mess trying to figure out exactly what they were doing.
Clearly, no one wanted to lose to graveyard-based strategies today. My list and board were identical to the old one I played, except I wanted to try out River Kelpie and Undiscovered Paradise out of the board.
FWIW, I made finals of the Vintage side event with Dredge.
Placed 40th of 250. 6-3 record with a Spy list.
Write-up coming soon.
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PS, If there is a Manaless Dredge Player here in the forum that wants to punch another Manaless Dredge player in the face, from SCG Milwaukee, I am still sorry.
You know why, and I know why. :cry:
Are Reverent Silence and Dryad Arbor our only ways to try and fight through the GY hate we will be seeing in G2 and G3?
Would anyone consider Nature's Claim in place of Reverent Silence? We still need the green source to cast it, it can hit problem artifacts too, and it only gives our opponent 4 life rather than 6. Am I missing something? I am quite new to this deck but it has been a blast to play so far.
I had the following sideboard when I took Manaless to a top 8 finish in a large Finnish legacy tournament:
4 Mindbreak Trap
4 Nature's Claim
4 Reverent Silence
1 Forest
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Misty Rainforest
Or course that was like six months ago and overall metagame is probably different here, but the board felt pretty good.
Hmm, I think I resolved my own question: Reverent Silence works with Dryad Arbor for a T1 play as the Arbor has summoning sickness (I forgot about this part) and cannot cast Nature's Claim T1. While, if you are playing forests (of any kind) and fetches, they will work with a T1 Nature's Claim. Correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by cab0747
I guess it come down to playstyle and personal choice. I think I will go with the Reverent Silence and Dryad Arbor since Arbor can be sac'd for Cabal Therapy or Dread Return.
Another thought (again, please excuse my ignorance) I was considering playing 1-2 copies of Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre MB to go along with Balustrade Spy. I was thinking that Ulamog could prevent us milling ourselves and can be a nice threat for Show and Tell. Is it worth it? If I decide to bard out Spy and they aren't playing SnT, it is just an easy board choice for G2 and some of the cards to fight the GY hate with we will surely be seeing.
@Cab0704
I run a Spy list and I have never decked myself. If I have my deck in the grave and I don't win... I probably wasn't going to win anyways. I do have sideboard tech for mil decks such as Painter Stone. I use Worldspine Wurm over the other "shuffle back" creatures. His token effect is great against show and tell also. I used him to win against two difrent Painter decks last weekend.
Hmm, not a bad idea at all. Again, I haven't played this a ton (not much Legacy that I can get to around here).Quote:
Originally Posted by xmas_asn
Thanks!
'Blightsteel is pretty good too.
It's pointless, just Dread Return a Golgari Thug for +1 Library.
Extraction is a risk (for DR that is)Quote:
Originally Posted by Final Fortune
Worldspine/Blightsteel etc. are a guarauntee'd way to give yourself another turn if needed, and also protect against Mill.
Not that Mill is really much of a thing in legacy (at least where I am), but against manaless that would be pretty funny.
Can't do that against Painter Stone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Final Fortune
There is no perfect sideboard for manaless in my opinion. It will depend on what your area is like re: Hate and sheer speed as to how effective any sideboard will be.Quote:
Originally Posted by cab0747
Answers;
Nature's Claim
Reverent Silence
Emerald Charm
Sort of Answers;
Ray of Revelation
Ancient Grudge
Sources;
Elvish Spirit Guide
Lotus Petal
Dryad Arbor.
Forests & Fetches.
All the sources here will depend highly upon whether you're running the Spy list, or the traditional Griselbrand (or sphinx) list which runs lands (Dryad Arbor) in the main.
Yay!
Went 4-1. :cool:
Lost against typical Red/Green Belcher. Stupid storm...:really:
Still didn't get a chance to use the Ray of Revelation.... but once again I got good use out of Grudge.
I'm thinking 1-2 Grudge is a keeper for me.
Congratulations! Did you face some hate? And how did you handle it?
Yeah I did. I did get some absolute god draws too. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Graf_Caligula
I copped Grafdigger's a couple times, aswell as a RiP > but overall I just had an answer in hand more often than not.
I faced extraction a bit too > but I don't mind that too much.
(running answers in sets of Claim & Silence, 2 Grudge & 1 Ray + 9 G-sources of which a single Bayou is one of them)
The main one that has me questioning whether Grudge is worth a slot is Grafdigger's... still not sure.
I should make it clear though, my side isn't good against fast combo / storm > but it does give me a fair chance against decks like Jund, Stoneblade etc., that take a little longer to kill.
Currently, I am running the spy list, so I would need to have the Dryad Arbor in my board. I am comfortable with my 60, but the sideboard is still bugging me :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by slave
I know I will need to be able to fight through the GY hate, but I am not sure how I should balance it. My first shot was:
4 Dryad Arbor
4 Reverent Silence
4 Nature's Claim
1 Blightsteel Colossus
1 Sickening Shoal