[Deck] MonoU OmniTell

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Originally Posted by bodea1981

So for those who run 3 DTT v 4 DTT and 3 Wish v 4 Wish?

Is it a preference... does the deck become too clunky w 4 ofs?

I apologize to everyone on this thread for all the questions... just trying to get comfortable with my own build that looks like everyone's elses build:cool:

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you really need to grind some games.

I found 4 dtt was too much, but i have one in the side. because of that, i use 4 wishes.

When Omni is out, i do not have a dtt, i can wish for it.

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Originally Posted by KobeBryan

you really need to grind some games.

I found 4 dtt was too much, but i have one in the side. because of that, i use 4 wishes.

When Omni is out, i do not have a dtt, i can wish for it.

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I agree that I have to grind the games... i am just data collecting... trust me i appreciate all the input.

Thanks Kobebryan.

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Originally Posted by Dziga Murnau

Your list has some unneeded cards. For example, Eladamri's Call is unnecessary, even though you've got only one Emrakul and no Intuition/LDV mainboard. After Omni you just make this chain:
Wish -> FF (get Brainstorm, Impulse, Wish) -> Wish -> Intuition (get Emrakul, Wish, Wish) -> Wish -> Noxious Revival (put Emrakul on top) -> Brainstorm -> Emrakul. Pretty easy.

Also, you intentionally decided to not fight with fast grave-based decks like Reaimator and Dredge? Just Nox and Surgick (as we cal them in Russia) seems too little hate for them.

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I found that unless you pack 4 GY removal, its not really worth dedicating too many slots against these two decks. I think these two decks have a 80% win rate against us.

Im playing 2 grafdiggers cages in the sb also. Helps vs reanimator, dredge, ant and elves, all of them pretty tough matchups.

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Originally Posted by Dziga Murnau

Your list has some unneeded cards. For example, Eladamri's Call is unnecessary, even though you've got only one Emrakul and no Intuition/LDV mainboard. After Omni you just make this chain:
Wish -> FF (get Brainstorm, Impulse, Wish) -> Wish -> Intuition (get Emrakul, Wish, Wish) -> Wish -> Noxious Revival (put Emrakul on top) -> Brainstorm -> Emrakul. Pretty easy.

Also, you intentionally decided to not fight with fast grave-based decks like Reaimator and Dredge? Just Nox and Surgick (as we cal them in Russia) seems too little hate for them.

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You just said he doesn't have Intuition, so how is he supposed to go that route without it? You could say -1 Eladamri's Call +1 Intuition, but that's different.

One should also note that that line only works if you have not cast any other Wish yet.

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Originally Posted by Julian23

You just said he doesn't have Intuition, so how is he supposed to go that route without it? You could say -1 Eladamri's Call +1 Intuition, but that's different.

One should also note that that line only works if you have not cast any other Wish yet.

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He's got an Intuition in sideboard, that's why I proposed such a wish-demanding chain) in my build, for example, only two wishes required, and even one is enough (just get FF, find Emri with LDV and draw it with Brainstorm). With three wishes avaluable post-Omni you cast FF - Ituition for Emri and 2 Wishes, find second Emri with LDV, Nox first one on top, draw both with Brainstorm and cast both for two extra turns.

Of course, EtI into two Emri is shorter, but it is completely dead precombo. I always apologies nowadays for killing with such a long spell chain, but it saves two slots in such a small sideboard as we have.

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Originally Posted by Dziga Murnau

He's got an Intuition in sideboard, that's why I proposed such a wish-demanding chain) in my build, for example, only two wishes required, and even one is enough (just get FF, find Emri with LDV and draw it with Brainstorm). With three wishes avaluable post-Omni you cast FF - Ituition for Emri and 2 Wishes, find second Emri with LDV, Nox first one on top, draw both with Brainstorm and cast both for two extra turns.

Of course, EtI into two Emri is shorter, but it is completely dead precombo. I always apologies nowadays for killing with such a long spell chain, but it saves two slots in such a small sideboard as we have.

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What is your build

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Originally Posted by Star|Scream

What is your build

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I changed it a bit since Russian Legacy Championship (-2 Preordain, +Impulse and Probe main, +4 Leyline of the Void side)

// TOPDeck.ru: FamilyTell

// Win
2 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
4 Show and Tell
4 Omniscience

// Tutors
4 Cunning Wish
1 Intuition
1 Lim-Dul's Vault

// Answers
4 Force of Will
3 Cabal Therapy
3 Thoughtseize

// Cantrips
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
4 Gitaxian Probe
3 Dig Through Time
1 Impulse

// Manabase
4 Polluted Delta
2 Flooded Strand
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Misty Rainforest
5 Island
1 Swamp
1 Underground Sea
2 City of Traitors
1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All

// Sideboard
SB: 4 Leyline of the Void
SB: 2 Massacre
SB: 1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
SB: 1 Firemind's Foresight
SB: 1 Dig Through Time
SB: 1 Noxious Revival
SB: 1 Wipe Away
SB: 1 Rushing River
SB: 1 Snuff Out
SB: 1 Trickbind
SB: 1 Flusterstorm

Impulse made his way into main because of "basic swamp issue" (which sometimes makes our cantrips virtually cost 2, if we run out of discard). Maybe with 4 Probes discard should be played as 4 Therapies + 2 Thoughtseize it's up to testing. And I'm okay with 4 LotV right now, though I'd like to find room for Surgical Extraction.

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Originally Posted by burnplayer

hi my name is manuel gómez and i've create the established list of omnitell, then the people have copied me:

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Originally Posted by Dziga Murnau

I changed it a bit since Russian Legacy Championship (-2 Preordain, +Impulse and Probe main, +4 Leyline of the Void side)

// TOPDeck.ru: FamilyTell

// Win
2 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
4 Show and Tell
4 Omniscience

// Tutors
4 Cunning Wish
1 Intuition
1 Lim-Dul's Vault

// Answers
4 Force of Will
3 Cabal Therapy
3 Thoughtseize

// Cantrips
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
4 Gitaxian Probe
3 Dig Through Time
1 Impulse

// Manabase
4 Polluted Delta
2 Flooded Strand
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Misty Rainforest
5 Island
1 Swamp
1 Underground Sea
2 City of Traitors
1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All

// Sideboard
SB: 4 Leyline of the Void
SB: 2 Massacre
SB: 1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
SB: 1 Firemind's Foresight
SB: 1 Dig Through Time
SB: 1 Noxious Revival
SB: 1 Wipe Away
SB: 1 Rushing River
SB: 1 Snuff Out
SB: 1 Trickbind
SB: 1 Flusterstorm

Impulse made his way into main because of "basic swamp issue" (which sometimes makes our cantrips virtually cost 2, if we run out of discard). Maybe with 4 Probes discard should be played as 4 Therapies + 2 Thoughtseize it's up to testing. And I'm okay with 4 LotV right now, though I'd like to find room for Surgical Extraction.

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thats a cool list... How is the discard working for you? Is it that good or is that a meta call where you are... I assume because you have alot of TEPS or ANT..... I feel like preordain is one of the best cards in the deck though....and should be a 4 of... I was jamming a bunch of games last night and thought preordain consistently overperformed.

you could cut a leyline for an extraction or the boseiju in the board. but sideboards are very hard to cover everything with the deck.

This is only what found in my limited testing... we will see how it works out on Saturday when i play in SCG IQ.

I'm sure TEPS was an old Extended deck with Mind's Desire and Sins of the Past ;)

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Originally Posted by Lemnear

I'm sure TEPS was an old Extended deck with Mind's Desire and Sins of the Past ;)

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LOL... I guess that we call The EPic Storm at my local... but fair point.

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Originally Posted by bodea1981

LOL... I guess that we call The EPic Storm at my local... but fair point.

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TPS = The Perfect Storm - Vintage deck - blue-centric Storm.dec with Force of Will (not to confuse with Long.dec)
TES = The Epic Storm - Legacy deck - red-centric and uses Wishes
TEPS = The Extended Perfect Storm - Extended Deck - Mind's Desire and Sins of the Past as engine fed by Lotus Bloom

easy to confuse ;D

Is this deck any cheaper than other decks in the format that are running duals? The land base just seems to be the biggest investment in any Legacy deck and I'm hoping to find something decent without having to sell my kidneys. ;)

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Originally Posted by Lemnear

TPS = The Perfect Storm - Vintage deck - blue-centric Storm.dec with Force of Will (not to confuse with Long.dec)
TES = The Epic Storm - Legacy deck - red-centric and uses Wishes
TEPS = The Extended Perfect Storm - Extended Deck - Mind's Desire and Sins of the Past as engine fed by Lotus Bloom

easy to confuse ;D

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Well now i can correct everyone. Thanks you sir:laugh:

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Originally Posted by Dutch253

Is this deck any cheaper than other decks in the format that are running duals? The land base just seems to be the biggest investment in any Legacy deck and I'm hoping to find something decent without having to sell my kidneys. ;)

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Any deck running either blue duals, Tarmogoyfs or exotic cards like Tabernacle of Pendrell Vale, Candelabra of Tawnos or whatever will be more expensive then this deck. And yes, this deck is in DtB section so i wouldn't worry about this being decend. If you check out lists on mtgdecks or most other netdeck sites there are average prizes covered.

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Originally Posted by Bobmans

Any deck running either blue duals, Tarmogoyfs or exotic cards like Tabernacle of Pendrell Vale, Candelabra of Tawnos or whatever will be more expensive then this deck. And yes, this deck is in DtB section so i wouldn't worry about this being decend. If you check out lists on mtgdecks or most other netdeck sites there are average prizes covered.

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Buy-in / upgrade strategy:
Get 4x Show and Tell + 1x Emrakul + 3-4x Cunning Wish now. At that point, the deck is already budget playable and you can upgrade as you go. Omniscience, Brainstorm, etc. cost next to nothing, basically. City of Traitors can be subbed with Ancient Tomb / Crystal Vein when buying in.

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Originally Posted by Karhumies

Buy-in / upgrade strategy:
Get 4x Show and Tell + 1x Emrakul + 3-4x Cunning Wish now. At that point, the deck is already budget playable and you can upgrade as you go. Omniscience, Brainstorm, etc. cost next to nothing, basically. City of Traitors can be subbed with Ancient Tomb / Crystal Vein when buying in.

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Very cool. I'll definitely be looking into this. Thanks!


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Originally Posted by Dutch253

Very cool. I'll definitely be looking into this. Thanks!


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Just checked Omniscience single prices and realized it has gone way up recently as this deck has become more popular. :-/

Anyhow, a relatively simple & straightforward mid-budget build would be something along these lines:
4x Show and Tell
4x Omniscience
4x Cunning Wish
4x Force of Will
4x Brainstorm
4x Gitaxian Probe
4x Preordain
4x Ponder
3x Dig Through Time
2x Emrakul, The Aeons Torn
3x Spell Pierce
1x Impulse
4x Polluted Delta
4x Flooded Strand
2x Ancient Tomb
1x Crystal Vein
8x Island

Sideboard:
1x Firemind's Foresight
1x Release the Ants
1x Noxious Revival
10x Wishboard cards based on what you have
2x Hate slots based on what your local meta has


For lower budget tips which will downgrade the performance significantly
- Enter the Infinite is way cheaper than Emrakul
- Dream Halls is way cheaper than Show and Tell
- Disrupting Shoal / Pact of Negation is way cheaper than FoW

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Originally Posted by Karhumies

Just checked Omniscience single prices and realized it has gone way up recently as this deck has become more popular. :-/

Abyhow, a mid-budget build would be something along these lines:
4x Show and Tell
4x Omniscience
4x Cunning Wish
4x Force of Will
4x Brainstorm
4x Gitaxian Probe
4x Preordain
4x Ponder
3x Dig Through Time
2x Emrakul, The Aeons Torn
3x Spell Pierce
1x Impulse
4x Polluted Delta
4x Flooded Strand
2x Ancient Tomb
1x Crystal Vein
8x Island

Sideboard:
1x Firemind's Foresight
1x Release the Ants
1x Noxious Revival
10x Wishboard cards based on what you have
2x Hate slots based on what your local meta has

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Funny how that happens! Thanks a lot for the list, much appreciated!


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