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Land Tax is sold out on SCG....
Im building Parfait!
Land Tax!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Land Tax is unbanned. No bannings.
Land tax is unbanned, no other changes.
Land Tax is unbanned. Nothing is banned.
Land tax is unbanned? Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Land Tax!!!
Guess a lotta bros knew Land Tax was unbanned, because it was sold out ten minutes before midnight all across mainstream stores.
Land Tax unbanned. Meh.
Only change: Unban landtax...
Announcement Date: June 20, 2012
Effective Date: July 1, 2012
Standard, Extended, Modern, Vintage
No changes
Legacy
Land Tax is Unbanned.
Changes to Magic Online-only formats are now announced monthly in the Magic Online Community Group blog.
For the complete list of all banned and restricted cards by format, click here.
While the Legacy metagame is healthy, the DCI is still interested in occasionally unbanning some cards to see if they improve the format. The top tournament decks in Legacy include Reanimator, RUG Delver, and Sneak and Show. Land Tax has been banned since 2004, doesn't seem to directly add to the top decks, and could make the format even more diverse. While there is always some risk in unbanning a powerful card, the DCI thinks this is a reasonable risk to take.
The DCI looked at the results of competitive Standard events. We found that while a high percentage of the participants played WU Delver decks, that the win rate of those decks was very close to par. For instance, in a recent MTGO PTQ, the win rate of WU Delver decks against non-Delver decks was a bit under 51%. In general there are decks that the Delver deck is strong against, and decks that it is weak against, but on average the deck tends to get results close to average. Additionally the number of people playing high level Standard events is the highest ever.
Looking at the Magic 2013 card set, it appears that there may be more tools for other decks than for the UW Delver deck, though time will tell if this bears out. The DCI will continue to observe how this plays out, but is taking no action.
For those who can't see yet.
NO BANNINGS
Land Tax unbanned.
Land Tax unbanned, no other changes in any format.Quote:
Originally Posted by (nameless one)
Land Tax is unbanned.
Land tax!
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Res...rces/sfrlegacy
Says June 20th.
And I don't see Land Tax on the list?
Land Tax unbanned. In other news, the format is still terrible until something knocks RUG off its throne that doesn't lose to Griselbrand.
Lol, look at the amount of people observating the thread :D
edit: so the format is dead until september..
love love love the DCI.
Didn't see the need for bannings, and unbanning tax is super awesome. Time to pick up Parfait!
Three months of non-stop Griselbrand it is then.
Selective Memory, watch the fuck out!
They update the images on the server before the articles go live so if you know about where the image should be you can see it before the official announcement goes up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamaican Zombie Legend
So long story short lots of people where camping the WotC site and found this http://media.wizards.com/images/magi..._jdidpqs0s.jpg
early. Don't worry though, Land Tax isn't the hottest investment...
Legacy:
No changes
Hoped they had the balls to actually unban something, but well, i guess sooner or later they'll have to do something.
Gutted about it :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by thefringthing
And the Wizards response of "The top tournament decks in Legacy include Reanimator, RUG Delver, and Sneak and Show" is just dumb. It should rather say:
"The top tournament decks in Legacy are Griselbrand decks and RUG Delver" :rolleyes:
Argument to unban Land Tax is also mind-boggling! It doesn't belong in Griselbrand decks and RUG delver so its okay to unban it. Why didn't they unban Earthcraft then? Or Hermit Druid? Or Fastbond? Or any other random card?
Meh, here's a hopping that Griselbanned will be gone in September
DCI thinks that legacy is healthy, and props to them for that.
I think that Land Tax will hardly affect the format, yet it gives people something to fuzz and tinker about. Good call and let's hope we'll see some more unbanning in the future.
To all cry-babies: if Griselbrand is so oppressive and impossible to beat and draws you 14 on turn one all the time and makes you sell your cards and to not eat your breakfast, why do you think that the premiere body regarding tournament play - the DCI - didn't make the same observation?
It might as well say "The top tournament decks in Legacy include Brainstorm.dec, Brainstorm.dec and Brainstorm.dec."Quote:
Originally Posted by Pippin
Or Duallandsandfetches.dec OR Fow.dec OR Ponder.dec OR my personal favorite: Legacy.decQuote:
Originally Posted by Tao
Because dropping your Squirrel Nest with Show and Tell is way more baller than playing Griselbrand. It wouldn't stay legal for long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pippin
I'm pretty stoked they unbanned Land Tax. Its about time WotC started taking these banned cards into consideration for unbanning because some of them are a lot of fun to play with, Land Tax being a good example.
Land Tax unbanned.
http://diesundas.funzt-halt.net/b/badumtss.png
Har. har. har.
Because too little time passed to ban card that was just released? Because no big GP was held yet with Griselbrand legal?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hopo
Main problem with Griselbrand is that it pushes non blue decks out of the format. It's either play Griselbrand.deck or something with counterspells and ok clock. This wasn't like this before Y. Bargain 2.0 was printed, and lots of non-blue decks like Aggro Loam/Maverick/etc. had a chance to compete in the meta.
Same thing happened when Mental Misstep was legal. Look how that ended up.
On the other hand I understand the view of some. If everything is ok at a small GPT in a non-important country (due to player base), then it surely must be everywhere else. Assuming people played decks they wanted to play, and not decks that they could afford making meta not relevant.
Now you're talking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pippin
In other words: there has been no reason to ban it. Nice job, dude. One can tell that you surely have thought this well through.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pippin
That is not a main problem, that is your problem. If you want flavor, go read some more Harry Potter. It shouldn't matter what colour your card frames are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pippin
I understand that someone actually cares about the colors for some reason, I just don't think they should.
I think Pippin cares about the colors of the card frames because they also go hand in hand with different strategies associated with those colors.
The explanation is as simple as it can get.
RUG's pretty much the most dominant deck right now. It is a tempo-deck that tries to get virtual/real card advantage by negating the opponents mana and is able to work with lesser resources than most opposing decks do.
No deck put up threatening numbers just quite yet, so they unbanned a card that is at first glance a way to fight the "strongest" decks angle of attack.
I think it's meh since Griselbrand, UW and maybe Threshold will beat the crap outta this format for quite some time now, but hey, Goblins are back, so everything will be just fine, right?
Seems like anyone can suck all of the DCI's job outta his fingers in a minute. Why the fukc can't they hire someone who knows actually what he's doing... .
So what? It's a strategy game, you aren't supposed to win if your strategy is bad. Also, this might be worth reading: http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playi...in-part-1.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by bilb_o
I am a blue player as you can see from my signature, I think you should think in that context before going defensive and trying to look smart.
Pipping was complaining about some strategies (non-blue ones at that) being pushed out of the format and being not good anymore, and Hopo was making irrelevant rants about card colors and flavor, I just wanted to pull back Pippin's argument back into discussion.
I don't agree with Pippin's argument. But I don't like smug responses taking arguments out of context and turning the thread into a troll war either.
While this used to be true way back in the past, I don't think it's true anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by bilb_o
@Julian
I agree with you and as you can see from my above post I wasn't defending that argument, just trying to take it for what it was.
Yes, general inclination is to think of blue decks on the control/combo/unfair side of things and to think of non-blue decks on the aggro/fair side. Currently due to the power of Delver even blue decks are playing the fair aggro game to some extent. Even the RUG thread in MTGSalvation is under the aggro section and I agree with that. Also there are other outliers to that presumption such as non-blue combo decks (Elves), non-blue control decks (Pox, MUD, White Stax) but the strenght and viability of those decks are debatable. It's not to say that I think blue is oppressive or overrepresented. I don't.
And also ... Land Tax pairs great with Brainstorm.