mindbreak trap costs 4 mana? how do we tutor for it w. tolaria west?
beating show and tell is possible w. my ghent build.
beating storm combo takes quite a lot of slots, but my amsterdam build beats storm.
(/yes mega pretentious post)
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mindbreak trap costs 4 mana? how do we tutor for it w. tolaria west?
beating show and tell is possible w. my ghent build.
beating storm combo takes quite a lot of slots, but my amsterdam build beats storm.
(/yes mega pretentious post)
Reanimator and sneak show aren't the worst and they're definitely winnable. Its decks like spiral tide and hive mind that are close to unwinnable.Quote:
Originally Posted by HammerAndSickled
I think making room for 1 chalice main can help alot of matchups.
i am assuming you would want chalice md because the combo matchup is horrendous.
The problem with 1 chalice md is choosing to move something to the sideboard. In reality 1 chalice won't help you much game one against ANT, High tide, or other combo decks that go off rather quickly. By the time you are able to dig/tutor for chalice the other deck already has or can go off no matter what.
You are better off waiting for game 2 and 3 and hope thalia's and chalices can hold them off while beating down with Bob.
True, although the single chalice would be good against RUG to assure you don't get bolted out late game. Zuran Orb does that already though.Quote:
Originally Posted by wally2345
Also, new video is up here: http://blip.tv/cuthbertthecat/mtgo-l...ands-2-6307844
Now, before you waste 15 minutes of your life watching it, it's vs. Belcher.
HAHA didn't read the belcher part before clicking on the link.
anyway cuthbertcat I was wondering if you might want to try to fit the following cards in your deck, which I think would be very useful.
Sensei's Divining Top - a copy for streamlining draws
Horizon Canopy - a land that can draw into more stuff/dredge life from the loam
Smokestack - for the attrition game
kind regards
Before adding Sensei's Divining Top, try a second copy of Sylvan Library. Powering it out on turn1 is really sick and helps a lot in finding Exploration/Loam. Also, it dredges Life from the Loam for free.
I've played with top to tutor for with E-Tutor, I like it more than Sylvan Library because it can save loam from yard hate. I've tried canopy and it is very close to being in my list, I cut it for a 5th fetch, but there are certainly games where I have crucible and multiple explorations where tolaria westing for it would break the game open. I've also played smokestack, but I think it's too slow and unnecessary like most other finishers.Quote:
Originally Posted by movingtonewao
I can, however, work these cards and other suggestions into my list for future videos if that would interest you guys.
whats your rationale for the 5th fetch over horizon canopy? Do you find yourself having manaland problems often when sitting on 4 fetches?
I do play the canopy because I find myself needing something to push me over when I establish crucible/exploration.
Btw Alex, I would like to add you on facebook if possible :)
I like the 5th fetch as I have a ton of color requirements postboard between thalia, dark confidant, and tolaria west. I'll pm you the link to my facebookQuote:
Originally Posted by movingtonewao
got your PM.
Interesting thought crossed my mind: are there any matchups where you bring in both thalia AND dark confidant at the same time? :tongue:
All of the non-belcher storm decks and pretty much every control deck, they both have a high impact on the game and are unlikely to be dealt withQuote:
Originally Posted by movingtonewao
btw for those who don't know, cuthbertcat made it to the daily deck list on mtg.com here.
"Alex is able to take over control of a game without ever casting a spell in some cases."
i don't think conleys played with lands enough to make that comment
Yes, he calls him Alex Orson in the article which I found quite funny. Standard players may be able to take some valuable nuggets of information away from the article, however any legacy player most likely could write the three paragraphs vaguely describing the deck that Mr. Woods wrote.Quote:
Originally Posted by movingtonewao
yeah the article also fails to mention a slew of other good Lands.dec accomplishments over the last two months, including a win a scg if I remember correctly.
Yeah, you almost top 8ed a gp which is definitely noteworthy along with the SCG Detroit win. I have no idea why they weren't mentioned and why the lists from those events weren't compared.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phelix
A friend of mine posted an article recently on Lands, I figure I may as well post the link.
http://manadeprived.com/2012/08/jace...any-lands.html
Regarding the Belcher matchup, you should be siding out the Maze of Ith instead of the Intuition. Siding out 4 lands makes Mox Diamond very slightly worse but Intuition still grabs Chalice of the Void or Thalia, Guardian of Thraben on/for turn2.
wow that deck looks ugly. I read the article and was astonished. The man is running 4x crucible and 2x E. Tutor which could be flopped and make the deck 10x better. I believe that Jace hinders the development of a deck like this. Mana development is first and foremost then board stability.Quote:
Originally Posted by yespuhyren
I was testing Lands since Cuthbert gave me the Gamble version of the list about 2 years ago. It seems to me that E. Tutor has the top notch place in a deck like this to get all silver bullets and mana accel that a lands deck needs until Wizards finishes the Volrath's/Academy Ruins cycle with an enchantment stacking land.
In addition, testing the TES matchup postboard with Cuthbertthecat's sideboard i have found favorable as long as they don't t1/0 kill. 4 thalia to 3 cotv sideboard may be the right number. Thalia seems to break the game against combo players better while waiting on a cotv.
back then (about 2 years ago), malacoda was running pure enlightened tutor (no intuition) and cuthbertcat was running intuitions. mcchainmail was also active on forums. I was inspired to build lands by all these people, though only cuthbertcat seems to be still active here.
If Tao is still alive, it would be nice to get an update on the OP regarding decklists, since lands have enjoyed some respectable finishes recently.
btw i read that article, agree that his decklist is a mess there are too many things I could criticize (and I'm just an average lands player). This guy should stick to canadian threshold =D