Let's just hope that decks that can support Containment Priest (D&T, SFM, Miracles) do play the card and we see a decline of S&T-based combo so we don't have to worry about them :laugh:
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Let's just hope that decks that can support Containment Priest (D&T, SFM, Miracles) do play the card and we see a decline of S&T-based combo so we don't have to worry about them :laugh:
Do me a favour and DONT play a Karakas in your Sideboard.
Even a basic Island is better in that Sideboardslot.
If you want to have tools against those 2 decks i recommend these cards in this order:
Xantid Swarm > Additional Discard > Flusterstorm > Second Ad Ad Nauseam > Basic Island > ...> Karakas.
PS: Basic Island is not a tool against these Deck, I just want to underline how bad Kaakas is because of the beforementioned arguments.
We shouldn't worry about them because, although Reanimator is not a good MU, SneakShow is at least even or slightly in our favour due to discard and Xantid Bees. It's a fair fight with machine guns.Quote:
Originally Posted by death
Sawatatonix hits the spot here. 7 discard spells and 2/3 Xantids are a good starting point to fight these decks.Quote:
Originally Posted by sawatarix
I never planned to play Karakas from the beginning since I don't own one. I merely mentioned it was decent since a few were having success with it, decent=mediocre.
My UB list has full sets of Probe, Therapy and 3 Duress, with 3 Swarms on my sideboard so I guess I'm already on point?
Sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by death
Karakas was very strong against reanimator and terrible against sneak and show. Now that reanimator lists play sire I've cut mine.
Although I never lose a match against storm with sneakshow before, I still think in theory this mu is favorable for storm. Emrakul is far too ineffective and sneak attack usually too slow. This mu really demands skill on both sides.
For karakas, it is just horrible, never consider it....
Yeah it was great back when the best Reanimation targets were Jin Gitaxias and Iona. Them days are long gone. Not only is Sire a thing, you're probably losing if they reanimate Griselbrand at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by bondfan
I changed the 2x Echoing Truth to Defense Grids to shore up matches against UR(x)/UBg where Swarms underperform, before deciding on Thoughtseizes. A good player can play around the artifact much like Carpet of Flowers.Quote:
Originally Posted by death
I changed the Chain of Vapors to 3x Dread of Night which is more effective against Thalia/Spirit/Mom all of which need to be dealt with preferably during the kill turn. This is in addition to the Massacres.
-3 Chain of Vapor / +3 Dread of Night
-2 Echoing Truth / +2 Thoughtseize
I must be missing something. You don't have an out against leyline of sanctity.Quote:
Originally Posted by death
Is DnT huge in your meta? Honestly, Thalia is annoying but beatable. If it's really a problem you should try out the bolts/pyroclasm. Dread of Night just seems meh to me.
Good observation. I purposely ommited the Chains of Vapor because the chance of me facing Leyline is almost nil. The format is crawling with hate bears and miracles at the moment, and Burn is off the radar. I have not seen anyone run leylines in a long time. I could squeeze in the Tropical Island main deck, cut a Xantid Swarm and make room for 2, but since I play 2 City of Traitors there's hardly enough room for it. I don't want to risk being mana screwed in case I face a BUG, RUG or MUD.
I think that is where the meta is heading, add Maverick into the mix. I'd run Pyroclasm if I play red. My list is strictly UB, straightforward but less resilient since I don't play PiF. PiF is proven in ANT and I would recommend sticking to it. I just have a different approach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Megadeus
I have considered Drown in Sorrow as a sweeper but it hurts a lot post-Ad nauseam. Thalia has been a long-time problem for storm, it's Thalia and friends that is concerning.
I like DoN when D+T is something... I detest Maverick as a MU, If Teeg gets more frequent CoV or declining Sawatarix a favor might be the way as DoN alone is kind of embarassing vs. Maverick, same with Massacre
Heresy! List, please ; )Quote:
Originally Posted by death
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Ethersworn Cannonist discussion - ok just saw a Aegis of Gods kill on MODO, lol, I should buy into it
2 Ad Nauseam, 2 ToA, 2 Chrome Mox, 2 City of Traitors.
Where you guys have PiF, Grim Tutor, Preordains, Volc. Island and a Swamp.
Basically the 2010 setup as Mystical Tutor was still legal :)Quote:
Originally Posted by death
Nice one! But it does have 4x Probe 4x Therapy though which is tech.
EDIT —
Found the list, it's on page 164/165 of the Old thread: http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...drils)/page164
nice, reminds me of setup Saito played 2010
no igg is a letdown, I want to play that card again :/
We're on the opposite.. IGG gives the opponent the chance to replay permission. PiF is strictly better and it is punishing not to have it main deck.
Reason why I don't run it is because Volcanic is off-color and sometimes I find myself with tons of artifact mana with no way to abuse PiF compared to a 2nd copy of Ad Nauseam. There are pros and cons.
In days of Burn and UR Delver, not relying on your life total is a big plus though.Quote:
Originally Posted by death