[Deck] 43 Lands

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazin...n12/welcome#13

Apparently, We are all running hot this year!

R1 - Esper Stone blade 2-0
R2 - Goblins 1-0-1
R3 - Sneak n Show 2-0
R4 - Sneak n Show 2-0
R5 - RUG Delver 2-1
R6 - RUG Delver 2-1
R7 - RUG Delver 2-1
R8 - Hivemind 0-0-3
R9 - Goblins 0-0-3

Lost to a good friend of mine in the top 8 playing hivemind. Very depressing end to a great day though. The deck is solid, the only card I debate is Oblivion Stone, but it served a great purpose winning me R1 against Jace. Should have Played out round 9, and fought to secure 1st, but it is in the past now. I did not miss Krosan Grip until G2 against hivemind.

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Originally Posted by OneBigSquirrelGod

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazin...n12/welcome#13

Apparently, We are all running hot this year!

R1 - Esper Stone blade 2-0
R2 - Goblins 1-0-1
R3 - Sneak n Show 2-0
R4 - Sneak n Show 2-0
R5 - RUG Delver 2-1
R6 - RUG Delver 2-1
R7 - RUG Delver 2-1
R8 - Hivemind 0-0-3
R9 - Goblins 0-0-3

Lost to a good friend of mine in the top 8 playing hivemind. Very depressing end to a great day though. The deck is solid, the only card I debate is Oblivion Stone, but it served a great purpose winning me R1 against Jace. Should have Played out round 9, and fought to secure 1st, but it is in the past now. I did not miss Krosan Grip until G2 against hivemind.

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Congrats man, we lands players are running hot! Or all of the top decks are easily attacked from the same angle, one of the two. Unfortunately, short of playing Magosi or Sundial of the Infinite, there isn't anything to do about the Hivemind matchup.

Congrats again man, nice work!

how did it feel like to triple kill RUG delver? must've been pretty sweet. Raven's Crime did a lot of legwork for you? =)

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Originally Posted by movingtonewao

how did it feel like to triple kill RUG delver? must've been pretty sweet. Raven's Crime did a lot of legwork for you? =)

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Raven's Crime did a lot against sneak n show. While trying to accumulate cards to combo one game, the opponent needed an Emrakul, had Karakas in hand, and I made him discard it. It is good against RUG, but a lot of times it is dead with Chalice out, so I side out 2 of them. Mark Sun (RUG) had Sylvan Library out G1 against me, and He would accumulate cards, and I would just dredge, and make him discard 3, and it helps an awful lot. I also cast Raven's Crime on myself against Goblins, a turn before I had Ensnaring Bridge in play (pretty sick).

Alright! Taking lands to my next tournament, i'm pretty sure this will be my list.

37 lands
1 Academy Ruins
1 Bayou
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Creeping Tar Pit
1 Forest
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Glacial Chasm
1 Karakas
4 Maze of Ith
2 Misty Rainforest
4 Rishadan Port
1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
3 Tolaria West
2 Tranquil Thicket
3 Tropical Island
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2 Verdant Catacombs
4 Wasteland
1 Riftstone Portal
1 Mishra's Factory
1 Savannah

24 Spells
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Ensnaring Bridge
4 Exploration
3 Intuition
4 Life from the Loam
1 Manabond
4 Mox Diamond
1 Oblivion Stone
1 Raven's Crime
1 Zuran Orb
1 Sylvan Library
1 Worm's Harvest

Sideboard 15
4 Chalice of the Void
1 Ensnaring Bridge
1 Cursed Totem
1 Engineered Explosives
4 Dark Confidant
3 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
1 Ethersworn Canonist

Things that can show up in my meta is;
Hive Mind / Omniscience
Dream Halls
Maverick x 2
Dredge x 2
Reanimator x 2
RDW x 2
Elves x 2
Miracles x 2
Enchantress
NO Bant
Merfolk x3
UW Delver
RUG Delver x3
Goblins
Cephalid Breakfast
MUD Stax
White Stax
Loam Pox
GB Pox
Affinity x2
TES or ANT

I'm not entirely sure on my sideboard. But i feel it's good against a wide range of decks. However i'm not sure the white part is needed. I could just cut white and play without white, and play some krosan grips + trinispheres. I also figure that i could play 1x Tormod's Crypt in the board to randomly hose Cephalid as i have no good way of defeating that atm :).

Anyways; present thoughts: Worm Harvest has been great. As well as the double tar pit beatdown plan. I feel i'm weak too Show and Tell, Enchantress (post board) and RDW, Cephalid Breakfast. Some of the other matches are a bit hard but very winnable, like elves.

Any ideas people?

@Julian23: An easy fix, and it's gives a better mana base for my white splash in the board.

3 Manlands + Worm Harvest seems like too much. Not that it wouldn't work, but I think wasting 3 slots on manlands is subpar.

I think you're much better off adding the 4th Fetchland.

Strange thought, but has anyone considered Trading Post in lands?
For one, the discard to gain 4 life is pretty strong, considering that we can pitch a land and loam it back. Paying 1 life to make a goat to block the mongoose (that we cannot maze) or other big creature is like playing with a forcefield, and you can always sac a man land (or Bob) if they are facing a path or swords to plowshare.
Finally, though a bit complex, you can sac a Chalice of the Void to either cast things under it, or reset it. (you can get the chalice back with academy ruins or sacing a man land or goat to the Post).
Thoughts?

Also, I will be playing lands in Denver this week. Wish me luck!

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Originally Posted by TheStorm

Strange thought, but has anyone considered Trading Post in lands?
For one, the discard to gain 4 life is pretty strong, considering that we can pitch a land and loam it back. Paying 1 life to make a goat to block the mongoose (that we cannot maze) or other big creature is like playing with a forcefield, and you can always sac a man land (or Bob) if they are facing a path or swords to plowshare.
Finally, though a bit complex, you can sac a Chalice of the Void to either cast things under it, or reset it. (you can get the chalice back with academy ruins or sacing a man land or goat to the Post).
Thoughts?

Also, I will be playing lands in Denver this week. Wish me luck!

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Mishras Assembly workers sac both as creatures and artifacts for value and as outlet against unexpected removal.

A friend of mine plays Wildfires with the buttload of artifacts and Tradingpost combined with Voltaic Key. He gained so much value out of this interactions that it might be worth a try as a one of, especially considering the pseudo Academy Ruins interactions and the mentioned reset function for Chalice.

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Originally Posted by OneBigSquirrelGod

Raven's Crime did a lot against sneak n show. While trying to accumulate cards to combo one game, the opponent needed an Emrakul, had Karakas in hand, and I made him discard it. It is good against RUG, but a lot of times it is dead with Chalice out, so I side out 2 of them. Mark Sun (RUG) had Sylvan Library out G1 against me, and He would accumulate cards, and I would just dredge, and make him discard 3, and it helps an awful lot. I also cast Raven's Crime on myself against Goblins, a turn before I had Ensnaring Bridge in play (pretty sick).

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now THATs pretty sick. I've been meaning to try to find a way to fit raven's crime in but with intuition and enlightened tutor already present,
1) its hard to find space
2) taxing on the manabase

I notice you don't run enlightened tutor, does it hurt that much?

Yeah, I meant Pact of Negation in my last post. It was a brain fart! In the end of course I realized it wasn't that good after all, since the decks you absolutely need a hard counter against usually play around it.

I've been testing a build with Living Wish as the tutor engine over Intuition, reasons being that it costs 1 less mana, can grab one-ofs without having to jump through hoops to recur, and also allows access to Thalia G1 vs. combo decks. I'm not sure if Wishing for Creatures is even a good idea game one, because they probably still have some sort of removal in their deck. Here's my current list for testing:

4 Exploration
1 Manabond

4 Mox Diamond
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Zuran Orb
1 Ensnaring Bridge
1 Crucible of Worlds

4 Life from the Loam
3 Living Wish
3 Enlightened Tutor

2 Savannah
2 Tropical Island
1 Bayou
1 Taiga
1 Forest
1 Windswept Heath
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Wooded Foothills

4 Rishadan Port
4 Wasteland
4 Maze of Ith
2 Tolaria West
2 Tranquil Thicket
1 Academy Ruins
1 Celestial Colonnade
1 Creeping Tar Pit
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Glacial Chasm
1 Horizon Canopy
1 Karakas
1 Riftstone Portal
1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth

SB:
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
1 Yixlid Jailer
1 Terravore
1 Oracle of Mul Daya
1 Academy Ruins
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Glacial Chasm
1 Tolaria West

Does anyone have any input on this list? I tried to make it so that there was a diverse range of tutor targets, but I may have gotten hit with the danger of cool things. Oracle and Terravore are both game-winners when they happen, but they rarely happen as you'd like... I like having Jailer and Thalia access in G1 situations, but I do miss a Crypt effect to really put the nail in the coffin vs. Dredge. I was also considering a Gaddock Teeg. Can I run less Thalia because it's in the wishboard? Does this type of build merit a Volrath's Stronghold anywhere in the 75?

Yes it gets Thalia G1 for combo, but it also can't get Loam, only get 1 card instead of 3 and is not an instant. So I'll stick with Intuition ^^

I think wishing for thalia vs combo will work rarely.
If I played wish, id probably be tempted to do some dark depths stuff.

but since its a spell that has little to no synergy with dredge, id rather stick with instant speed intuition and the versatility it gives you.

the other wish targets i feel are unimpressive, since dredge should already be a sweet matchup, and its a deck that doesnt see much play right now. Not playing wish will also free up a bunch of sb slots, that could improve some of the more important matchups like omniscience and storm.

Further, im very impressed with glacial chasm, and would want it main. having to resolve a sorcery to fetch it can be tricky, especially one you only have 3 of, and you may already have dredged some away

I have just accomplished the brightest moment in my entire time playing magic. I have defeated spiral tide with lands, even while playing egregiously. Video to come hopefully, MTGO is being a bit strange with what replays it wants to show me.

I know that feeling, 2 weeks ago I've defeated Spiral Tide myself with Lands. Congratz!

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Originally Posted by cuthbertthecat

I have just accomplished the brightest moment in my entire time playing magic. I have defeated spiral tide with lands, even while playing egregiously. Video to come hopefully, MTGO is being a bit strange with what replays it wants to show me.

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Hell yeah! I can't wait to see this. I'm gonna play the deck tonight and test magazine in the main and sundial, since there will be hive mind, and I'm tired of losing. I think it will work, and I'm going to put smokestacks in Place of Oblivion Stone, to try and do that trick.

I Agree with Phelix about living wish. Just run Ravens crime if you're worried about combo. It's a great Intuition target.

Also, I wrote an article about lands and submit it to Star City, so keep an eye out for that fellas!

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Originally Posted by cuthbertthecat

I have just accomplished the brightest moment in my entire time playing magic. I have defeated spiral tide with lands, even while playing egregiously. Video to come hopefully, MTGO is being a bit strange with what replays it wants to show me.

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Chalice is big in this match-up.

I'm sure Thalia too, but in my test days I didn't run her yet.

Any news from the Lands player that went 2-4 drop at SCG Denver? He lost R1 to Burn according to twitter. But what were his other matchups?

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Any news from the Lands player that went 2-4 drop at SCG Denver? He lost R1 to Burn according to twitter. But what were his other matchups?

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How do you lose to burn? With Zuran orb and 3+ ways to find it, seems almost impossible.

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Originally Posted by OneBigSquirrelGod

How do you lose to burn? With Zuran orb and 3+ ways to find it, seems almost impossible.

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Well...I wasn't the guy that lost but I guess his opponent had Sulphuric Vortex at hand...

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Originally Posted by OneBigSquirrelGod

How do you lose to burn? With Zuran orb and 3+ ways to find it, seems almost impossible.

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Lands meet price of progress.