Hi guys!
Now, with Metalworker avaiable (is no longer banned), it can be a new slot in Stax?
Lammina
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Hi guys!
Now, with Metalworker avaiable (is no longer banned), it can be a new slot in Stax?
Lammina
I don't think Metalworker is viable in Armageddon Stax. He could enable a mono brown Stax, perhaps splashed with red for Welder.
Spam. Search the site, do some work and at least remove the banned cards from your import. - Bardo
i kinda think that metalworker stax is a while other beast all together. white stacks focuses on the LD and anti creature through tabernacle and magus of the tab, putting in metalworker changes the game plan too much i think.
i kinda think white staxs works great as is without him.
the first turn you have 3 mana avalible to you are you gunna want to drop metal worker when the deck usually calls for something like tangle wire or ghostly prison? the means and the clock the deck uses to lock people down as they currently stand, would they not be changed drastically by taking the time in that first turn with 3 mana to drop metalworker?
this could be crucial as the needed lock piece may not be in place and metalworker could get "dealt" with some how. then the opponent is all the more resource positioned to keep fighting?
http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...212#post383212
There you go, my take on Monobrown Staxx (with karn)
This Zendikar's angel can be a new card to White Stax?
Emeria Angel - 2WW
Creature-Angel (R?)
Flying
Landfall—Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control,
you may put a 1/1 white Bird creature token with flying into the battlefield.
3/3
where did u find an angel like that? If that angel does exist it would be a nice boost to white stax and a couple other decks. I mean flagstone of trokar being pitched to smoke stack with this angel out as well as a crucible would be an awesome set up.
even if you feel you need a finisher, why will you take this above knight or angel? because of its great synergy with tabernacle or what? :rolleyes:
http://www.magicmadrid.es/blog/?p=1356
long as the information on that source remains valid of the day i post this. i seem to have found your angel.
yes tabernacle could kill all the angels u make but i would think u would kill tabernacle at some point if the opponents creatures are dead.
edit: I mean thats just for those of us who are fortunate to have the land tabernacle. Magus if that be the one your refering too would most likely work as you said.
+1 ykpon
It seems like whenever a white beater is spoiled, everyone immediately thinks "Wow this would be perfect in Stax!"
It's not about powerful cards, it's about synergistic cards.
besides tabernacle being mentioned what else would be wrong with such an angel in the deck. You are convincing me to think it would be better suited for angel stompy verse white stax.Quote:
Originally Posted by Misplayer
Narrow Escape 2W
Instant
Return target permanent you control to its owner's hand. You gain 4 life.
seems like a better card than the angel. lifeloss is always a pain in this deck. return a smokestack EOT, a redundant lock piece, chalice to reset it with a different number of counters, city of traitors and replay city of traitors, etc. seems like the list goes on.
It doesn't really contribute anything to the lock or damage through. Every card in the deck has to advance your game-play in some way because Stax depends on top-decks so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by santeria
Either your opponent is destroying it or you returning it to your hand, you will most likely accomplishing what your opponent intended to do, which is reducing the number of relevant lock pieces in play.
yeah, but not all lock pieces are relevant, a lot can be redundant. multiple trinispheres or crucibles arent really anything other than stax fodder. sometimes I would rather gain life than have another lock piece.
If you really wanted life, wouldn't Pulse of the Fields be better?
Narrow Escape is worse than a redundant lock piece. It doesn't gain a whole bunch of life, and it takes away your board. If it was a redundant piece, you could sacrifice it to smokestack.
If you have Crucible of the World out, wouldn't stuff like Nomad Stadium be better? It actually net you a lot of life over an amount of time.
Or maybe add a few more Armageddon effects, like Ravages of War.
Narrow escape doesn't seem good not matter how you cook it. It fits the curve but just doesn't seem productive in white stax. I mean in Angel stompy it would probably shine for saving things from various destruction spells. wouldn't something like exile be better than narrow escape? that would solve more issues that would be causing you to lose life?
How is this logical at all? If you have multiple lock pieces in play and active and 2W available, aren't things going fairly well?Quote:
Originally Posted by santeria
ClearSkies said it best. You have to think of the big picture. This is 2/60, 3/60/ 4/60 whatever of the deck. That is that percentage of cards you would be drawing that would be taking away from the synergy of the deck, thus further decreasing an already wobbly deck.
In that case, I would think Oblation would be better, because I would rather do some tech trick drawing 2 cards than gaining 4 life. The smokestack scenario is too circumstancial*. I've Oblation'd Stax before at EOT with 4 counters on it, but thats not enough of a viable argument to justify that its a good choice in the deck. Stax will eventually get a new card that will make the deck betterQuote:
Originally Posted by santeria
"3WW
search your library for an enchantment,artifact, and creature and put them into play. Destroy all lands (This includes your land)."
Still waiting......
In order for metalworker to be used in a geddon stax shell some of the components needs to be changed.
Im very sure that several stax variants would come out sooner or later. For now im seeing something along the lines of winter orb / sphere of resistance + metalworker being part of the main deck.
i pulled a world queller in the pre release. It kinda looks nice in the smoke stack slot on paper. you just need crucible out with a factory if your gunna be calling creatures in theory of a permanent minimum. i'm having a hard time seeing it working as an indefinite lock piece though. The huge thing though is smoke stack kills more than 1 thing a turn. but being able to target out what we dislike looks very appealing in the stead of killing multiple permanents.