[Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

I want to take this to a couple GPTs, despite still being new to the deck. Hard to make myself buy Seas and LEDs to almost certainly scrub out though lol. If I were him I wouldn't play the deck without Seas, they're pretty integral. And at least with those you can be reasonably certain they won't lose much value... and 2 Seas isn't that much of a backbreaker, played ones are still easily available for $80-$90.

I'm not sure about replacing Brainstorm with Preordains though, just for lack of a shuffle effect. It's not that often I'll end up having both Brainstorm and a fetch that can actually shuffle away the stuff I don't want. Also, I think Brainstorm's draw 3 cards is important for comboing off that turn; I don't see Preordain having that same power. It doesn't seem to me that not being able to occasionally shuffle off cards you don't want is enough of a difference to run Preordain instead. Just my relatively novice impression though.

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Originally Posted by TUMBLES

I want to take this to a couple GPTs, despite still being new to the deck. Hard to make myself buy Seas and LEDs to almost certainly scrub out though lol. If I were him I wouldn't play the deck without Seas, they're pretty integral. And at least with those you can be reasonably certain they won't lose much value... and 2 Seas isn't that much of a backbreaker, played ones are still easily available for $80-$90.

I'm not sure about replacing Brainstorm with Preordains though, just for lack of a shuffle effect. It's not that often I'll end up having both Brainstorm and a fetch that can actually shuffle away the stuff I don't want. Also, I think Brainstorm's draw 3 cards is important for comboing off that turn; I don't see Preordain having that same power. It doesn't seem to me that not being able to occasionally shuffle off cards you don't want is enough of a difference to run Preordain instead. Just my relatively novice impression though.

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my anus cringed at that sentence.

brainstorm is not only good at, draw 3. It also removes crap from your hand.

brainstorm isn't called the best card of the format for nothing, it's because it is that awesome and preordain is not even close!

Why are we wasting time discussing a manabase that's just straight worse than what the industry standard is. If you don't have Seas, quite frankly, you should play another deck until you can afford Seas, its that simple.

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Originally Posted by practical joke

my anus cringed at that sentence.

brainstorm is not only good at, draw 3. It also removes crap from your hand.

brainstorm isn't called the best card of the format for nothing, it's because it is that awesome and preordain is not even close!

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Bro, watch some more reading rainbow bro.

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Originally Posted by TUMBLES

Bro, watch some more reading rainbow bro.

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What Practical said is just incase you weren't sure on the Brainstorm to Preordain comparision, here are the facts.

Now, back on topic. Is Reading Rainbow even on air anymore and if so is that blind Star Trek guy(the irony of his only 2 roles on TV) still the host?

You could always play this but its still inferior without 2 Seas, but close to as effective as it could be:

4x City
4x Gemstone
1x Sea
1x Volcanic
1x Delta
1x Tarn
1x Mire

I used to run a similar manabase in versions w 14-15 lands but ... that was when MT was still legal. And if you only have 1 Sea, this is pretty much as cheap as it can go and still be effective.

Fuck bad rainbow lands, just play damn shocklands and cities and mines.

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Originally Posted by Pich

Fuck bad rainbow lands, just play damn shocklands and cities and mines.

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Pich knows what he's talking about!

I played Watery Graves in TES before I picked up my Underground Seas. The 2 life won't matter most of the time you don't lose. Just win with Iggyloops more.

I'll probably just play one island, one watery grave, and four deltas.
Thanks,
John.

I hope this helps a few people out.

Primer was sweet. I've been testing this deck a little and the only thing I had trouble with was knowing how to build the SB and exactly what was good against what. Nice.

Nice primer, good summary of what's in the the thread with a little extra here and there.


I ran into a situation, was curious how you guys would have handled it:

Opponent is at 19 life, I'm at 9. He's playing burn, has 3 mountains untapped, 2 Lightning Bolt in graveyard, a fetchland, and a Rift Bolt. Goblin Guide on the board.

I forget the exact combination, but my options ended up being IGG for the win if he doesn't have a Bolt or Fireblast (I was pretty sure there's no other instant speed burn; Rift Bolt, Chain Lightning, Lava Spike, are sorcery and Price of Progress wouldn't have killed me unless he already had a Fireblast to go with it) in hand, or I could end up Tendrils for a couple life points under his life total. I also could have ETW, but with my life total I was pretty confident that it wouldn't get there in time.

I went for IGG and he had the Fireblast, burning me for 10 before I could get Tendrils for the kill. In retrospect, Tendrils for 16 or 18 (can't remember which) might have been the better choice. With him having 2 cards in hand and the Goblin Guide more or less meaning I only draw spells, I think it would have been smarter to buy the time and possibly draw into what I needed. What do you guys think? I wish I remembered my exact hand so I could have it pointed out if I missed another way too, but I wasn't feeling well and was playing badly/can hardly remember anything.

I would've mini-Tendrils'd him. This makes the game much harder for him, buys you a ton of time, and its funny to bust your load twice.

I faced that kind of situation few times vs burn. You just can't accept the % that they don't have an instant. Just go for the almost kill and then find Ad Nauseam or BW/IT for the second ToA or even Grapeshot.

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Originally Posted by practical joke

my anus cringed at that sentence.

brainstorm is not only good at, draw 3. It also removes crap from your hand.

brainstorm isn't called the best card of the format for nothing, it's because it is that awesome and preordain is not even close!

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To be fair, there are no 'crap' spells in Legacy tier decks, they're just cards that aren't as good as others :P

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To be fair, there are no 'crap' spells in Legacy tier decks, they're just cards that aren't as good as others :P

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That's right, the spells are strong, but lands suck. I hate drawing lands when playing this deck. Also, most of the time drawing Tendrils is rather bad and Chrome Mox can be bad at times as well.

I ran this in SCG Atlanta during the Standard Open and did quite well. In a box event I scrubed out to merfolk. Later on that day though I did the legacy open and went a perfect 4-0 to recoup my spending that day. The next day was the Legacy event and I went a dismal 3-3 drop. Lost to a first round Threshold using white for Meddling Mage, a Goblin Charbelcher deck, and Zoo. Pretty much I scrubed out of the Legacy Open too though. Playmistakes in all three of those matches led to game loss. If I can make an excuse it was the first Legacy tourney I had participated in for about two years. Still did not get it done. The cream rose to the top. I ran the list off the first page since Bryant tops and has had success with the deck. I felt confident and all its just my own play errors literally lost a 6-0 record to probably finish out great.

Played this list in a small local tournament (3 rounds, no top 8)

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Land
4 Gemstone Mine
3 Misty Rainforest
2 Underground Sea
2 City of Brass
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Volcanic Island

Disruption
4 Duress
3 Silence

Artifact Mana/Rituals
4 Lion's Eye Diamond
4 Rite of Flame
4 Lotus Petal
4 Dark Ritual
3 Chrome Mox
2 Cabal Ritual

Draw/Tutor
4 Brainstorm
4 Infernal Tutor
4 Burning Wish
3 Ponder

Engine
1 Ill-Gotten Gains
1 Ad Nauseam

Win-Con
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Empty the Warrens
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Sideboard
4 Pyroblast
1 Krosan Grip
1 Echoing Truth
1 Thoughtseize
1 Grapeshot
1 Pyroclasm
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Empty the Warrens
1 Ill-Gotten Gains
1 Diminishing Returns
1 Shattering Spree
1 Eye of Nowhere
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I went 2-1, beating a casual vampire deck (woo, goldfish time), and an Affinity deck (highlight: Me BWish for pyroclasm, sweeping the board of 5 artifact creatures and winning easily after that), then losing in the final round against CounterTop.

How do i improve my chances aganist countertop? I feel the Pyroblasts was realllly weak.Would it be better to have Xanthid Swarms?

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Originally Posted by Klazam

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Play Wipe Away.

SCG's tournament coverage is finally referring to this deck as TES. Pretty noteworthy, I think.

It's an instant, so as a singleton, it doesn't really help.