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Lemnear would definitely be the one in the do-rag.
Hahahahahahahhaaha
Got our hotel hear La Defense (Adagio Hotels). Out for Sightseeing and food ^^
I know there'll be both Big Red and Painter at a local even this week...might try Serenity out in the Abrupt Decay slot, just to see what it does. Has your testing gotten you any results yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom T
Good luck at BoM Lemnear! Same goes for anyone else playing there.
If anyone is attending tomorrows 9am Trials, spot a guy with shiny shoes, vest and black/white scarf (shemagh-Style), come over and say "hi" :D
One hour im looking for u ^^
Sitting on table 87 with the guys
Completely blew out Jund and Miracles in the first rounds of the Legacy trial. 4-0 in games with 2 hilarious Show-offs. More of that tonight ^^
Meet some fellow Sourcers but got once detected because of my dices -.-'
Awesome!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemnear
Just ask your opponent if they have a die when you want to roll for the play. Get your dice as soon as you combo out, but not any earlier. That way people won't put you on storm that easily :)
Good luck!
I think I'll bring tons of dice in DC just to have people thinking im on storm!
He just remembered the pic of my dices i posted here. Wasn't a problem. Awesome guyQuote:
Originally Posted by Tom T
Lost 1-2 against imperial Painter due to losing the dice and him having ridiculous draws/hands. can't beat turn 1 painters + double REB's +SSG followed by killing my lands and Magus beatdown game 1 and neither the Painter + double REB mimic play in game 3, this time followed by double Thorn and magus :/
Died with 2 LED + RoF + BW in hand game 1 ... No red mana
Had a great weekend in Belgium at MTG Grand Prix Antwerp and got to play a load with TES which was great (there's not a lot of Legacy in Northern Ireland).
I went undefeated at the Legacy Warm-up event on Friday, taking 1st place out of 25.
I came 17th out of 136 at the Legacy Championship on Sunday, unfortunately loosing my last round which would have got me into the top 8 play offs; finishing at 5-2-1.
I had the enjoyment of playing against some extremely competent players (My opponent match win percentage was 73.19%) who afforded me no easy wins, including a few nailbiting games against German Canadian Threshold master and MTG Madness team member, Carsten Linden, who I defeated in round 4.
I'm avoiding writing a full tournament report as my last one was gargantuan (http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...y-Adam-Stewart), but I'm going to go over some of my thoughts:
(My list didn't include any of the recent developments as I didn't want to make any changes to the list without having time to get used to them - thus I was running the following list:)
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The Epic Storm
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//Target (2)
1 Ad Nauseam
1 Empty the Warrens
//Tutor (8)
4 Infernal Tutor
4 Burning Wish
//Disruption (7)
4 Silence
2 Duress
1 Cabal Therapy
//Draw (12)
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
4 Gitaxian Probe
//Artifact Mana (11)
4 Lion’s Eye Diamond
4 Lotus Petal
3 Chrome Mox
//Ritual Mana (8)
4 Dark Ritual
4 Rite of Flame
//Land (12)
2 Underground Sea
1 Volcanic Island
2 Flooded Strand
1 Polluted Delta
4 Gemstone Mine
2 City of Brass
//Sideboard (15)
2 Cabal Therapy
2 Chain of Vapor
2 Abrupt Decay
3 Xantid Swarm
1 Tropical Island
1 Grapeshot
1 Empty the Warrens
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Past in Flames
1 Diminishing Returns
I lost my win-and-in to top 8 against Imperial Painter. I opted to bring in Abrupt Decay and friends post-board; in heinseight I think mulliganing to faster hands and time-walking them with Silence is the preferred plan here though I agree with Bryant that both plans are fine. I guess it depends on the exact list and I do have a skewed perspective given that I lost game 2 to turn 1 Grindstone - turn 2 Painter's Servant + activate. I need to practice this match-up more to see how often starts like this occur.
The other loss & draw weren't notable - one hinged on a timely Echoing Truth being drawn, but perhaps I could have taken different lines which might have been a positive outcome. Overall my play was very tight and defensible given the information I had.
Here's my opinion on the changes to the sideboard that are being discussed as well as my thoughts on the performance of some other cards:
Cabal Therapy was excellent all weekend, but I still think roughly 2 "revealing" discard spells is probably still required in the 75. Thoughtseize seems an upgrade over duress in this case and I agree that paying the situationaly important cost of 2 life is probably worth the added versatility and potentially freeing up sideboard slots (now that we can hit creatures easier maindeck, one could argue that only 1 discard spell in the sideboard is required, but with this you loose the ability to Burning Wish for one post-board). The split of this is debatable as there are merits to going 2 Cabal Therapy and 1 Thoughtseize in the maindeck and vice-versa. The division of Thoughtseize and Cabal Therapy across the maindeck and sideboard is also something that only extensive testing will be able to settle.
I also agree that while 3 Abrupt Decay is fine, we don't get a lot of value out of the 3rd copy, so 2 feels like the right number.
I boarded in the Xantid Swarms once all weekend (in one round against High Tide). While this isn't a huge sample size (I would have loved to have them all day if playing against Show and Tell) I still think 3 is probably too much. I'm not certain on this one though and 3 is still pretty defensible given the lack of other options we have.
The Tropical Island was low impact - I never wanted the 13th land when I brought it in - just the colour fixing. Sadly, I don't think we can have it both ways while still maintaining our shuffle effects. I could see myself wanting the extra land against tempo based Wasteland decks with a fast clock, but I wouldn't board in a Tropical Island in most of these cases anyway. If running 3 Xantid Swarm (or lots of other green cards), the Tropical Island could still be argued.
I have not tested Carpet of Flowers yet. This is about the only other "answer" that is worth considering inclusion (assuming empty spots).
I have not tested Telemin Performance yet, but while it seems powerful (having a 1 card "kill" would be great) it is pretty narrow and, as Bryant pointed out, not being able to get them through Leyline of Sanctity is a strike against it. I will still try it.
3 Chrome Mox was amazing, I never did consider dropping to 2, but that's even more evident to me now.
Here's the changes I'll be testing for a the next week or two:
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The Epic Storm
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//Target (2)
1 Ad Nauseam
1 Empty the Warrens
//Tutor (8)
4 Infernal Tutor
4 Burning Wish
//Disruption (7)
4 Silence
2 Cabal Therapy
1 Thoughtseize
//Draw (12)
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
4 Gitaxian Probe
//Artifact Mana (11)
4 Lion’s Eye Diamond
4 Lotus Petal
3 Chrome Mox
//Ritual Mana (8)
4 Dark Ritual
4 Rite of Flame
//Land (12)
2 Underground Sea
1 Volcanic Island
2 Flooded Strand
1 Polluted Delta
4 Gemstone Mine
2 City of Brass
//Sideboard (15)
2 Chain of Vapor
2 Abrupt Decay
2 Xantid Swarm
1 Thoughtseize
1 Cabal Therapy
1 Grapeshot
1 Empty the Warrens
1 Telemin Performance
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Past in Flames
1 Diminishing Returns
1 ________________ - Not sure what to test here, probably a Carpet of Flowers to see what impact it has.
Anyway, I'm eager to hear everyone's thoughts, it was a gruelling weekend but a thoroughly enjoyable one!
As ever, thanks for taking the time to read this.
But you don't wish for instants? What am I missing?Quote:
it also increases the power of Burning Wish
Congrats on the event otherwise! Looks like you had some fun (:
Edit: Just went and read your last tournament report. That was a very fun read! Thanks for pointing it out (:
Playing eternal weekend tomorrow, is there any merits to running 2 seize 1 therapy main, 2 therapy board? I dont consider myself to be an expert on playing the deck and i feel i may miss on therapies vs tempo and show decks. Also curious for the ad naus in the board.
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Thanks! And you're not missing anything... I'm just being an idiot... Guess I'm more tired than I thought! Will edit the post now, cheers.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPoJohnson
That split is fine, more so if you're not comfortable with Cabal Therapy. Forget about the Ad Nauseam in the sideboard that I spoke about, I had a moment of idiocy. My post has been edited to correct this.Quote:
Originally Posted by mario91234
I had the same discussion with my brother at one point in time when he asked why I only had one and I thought, "Wait, why don't I have a second in the board?" Haha. Been there done that.Quote:
Originally Posted by vercadium
At this point I'm kinda locked in to running TES at the GP DC next week. I don't feel as comfortable with any other deck to just audible out at this point. I've been playing and practicing TES since about August, and it is still teaching me new tricks. At this point it is probably too late to learn a ton more about the deck and stuff (other then the rereading of BC's sideboarding tips in the main post).
Other then the deck being tough to play for new pilots, do any of you have any advice for someone who is going to play the deck over a large two day tournament? If I end up playing well and Day 2ing, I will be playing many matches with a very complex deck with many working parts. Does anyone have any tips for keeping your brain fresh during a long tournament when you are running a complex deck like this one. The thing that will help is if I play against people who are not prepared and I can just coast into a win, then I have the rest of the round to relax and chill out.
Bring something to nibble on.
Make notes of when you have a difficult choice (what to blind therapy - what to wish for, etc.).
Always write down what you reveal via discard/probe (and cross off as they play).
DON'T PANIC! (in big, bold, friendly letters).
I always write down everything that gets revealed off everything and cross it off. I use a fresh piece of paper for each game in a super big life pad, which helps keep information clean as well as my opponents not seeing a Storm and Mana count from previous matches.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luklinda
http://www.nespahtens.com/wp-content...anic-thumb.jpg
Dropped out round 6 of 7 ... Losing all but 1 dice sux. Playing against Miracles and hilarious topdecks all day does too. Totally punted round 6 Game 1 as I missed to flashback Therapy over a Goblin token to strip a batterskull ... didn't matter at the end anymore.
Quad Therapy was nuts. Didn't face a combo deck aside Imperial Painter all day, so no TP. 3 Decay were necessary.
Rage quit after 1-3
Meet
Painter loose
Merfolk loose discover that they play chalice ...
Conterbalance deck win
Hard control loose
Quit
That explains why I was unable to find you :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaycounet
Carsten made 6-1 and gained a Bye with ANT and my teammate made 5-2 with my TES' twin
Where were you guys? Arrived like 3pm in the venue and registered for the last trial for 2bye. I saw some tes players playing. I'll be wearing again my letran jacket and will take pictures again. Just tap me in the shoulder tomorrow. Good luck to all tes players
Will do. Enjoy your stay. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by paeng4983
We were leaving right after round 6 (because I had no more chance to gain Bye's) to get food for our party at our appartment
Funny that all peeps ran in their SB is combo-&grave-hate in a 2/1 relation. There were too many Patriots, D&T, Maverick, Thalia and Cannonists in the trial that Massacre Looks pretty appealing as I was not able to get paired against any of the other combo decks in the room. Maybe a last Minute switch :/
Last minute changes are the things I regret the most after tournaments ^^ But if you have to you have to. Good luck to you and to all other Storm Troopers!
Where are thou? Or PM me nameQuote:
Originally Posted by paeng4983
690 players for the Mainevent ... Starting on table 266
Good luck storm troopers. Massacre seems eh. Still doesn't get teeg, but at least it kills off the other bears of hate that are white
so far so good Lemnear ?
6-3
my MUs were
Ur 2-1 win
Tinfins 0-2 loss
DT 2-0 win
Bug control 2-1 win
Rug 1-2 loss
Bant 2-0 win
maverick 2-0 win
pox 2-1
Rug 1-2
*all info just derived from memory. Let me know if i miss somethings. Thank you.
*typing from my phone too..
* tourney report to follow.
@ lemear private message your whole name so that i know where to look for u. Thanks.
To other tes players, how did u do?
Nope. X-2-1 isn't enough to make day 2 anyway so I dropped and left the venue before round 9, picked up some doods who were also eliminated and go out for Sightseeing (horrible weather) and food.Quote:
Originally Posted by P-E
The deck worked well as expected, but losing all but 2-3 dice rolls over the whole weekend sux donkey balls as the insane hate I faced. I tip my hat for the peeps who ran Cannonists in their Esper Desthblades (FoW + Thoughtseize + Clique + Snapcaster + Cannonist) or slapped me with Turn 1 Thorns the whole weekend (Painter). Worst Moment of the weekend was my opponent having 2 Sphere of Resistance + 2 Counterbalance + SDT in play before killing me with Painter + Grindstone after I killed 3 Painter before.
Didn't face a single combo deck (aside 2 Painter) the whole weekend
I'll write down more later or tomorrow.
Greetings to all people who reconized me, my deck, my dices or my Lost Eye Diamonds :D
@paeng: didn't you notice a guys with blazer, leather stachel and beanie? I'll wait for you tomorrow right before the hall at 9:30am. I PM'd you my name already yesterday ^^
Not too bad!Quote:
Originally Posted by paeng4983
Finished 7-2 aka 16th at Legacy Champs in Philly today. Played the 75 in the OP, thoughtseize was fine for me all day. Report might come or I'll just post the matchups and small details since i didn't take awesome notes. I punted in round 8 to kill my hopes at top 8.
If GP DC is anything like Eternal weekend was today, there will be a decent amount of merfolk, elves, omni, storm, miracles, and rug. Few to no nonblue fair decks near the top (Ari Lax on Death and Taxes a notable exception)
Well done! Would love to see a report!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tammit67
This is my last day or chance of meeting fellow tes players from europe. Me and lemear will be in front of the vendo machine near the entrance hall at 930. I hope to see u guys. Good luck to those who made it to day two.
I'm sorry, I wanted to go to the BOM but I couldn't so, good luck to every Storm Trooper!
I'm from the bottom - Spain.
Please let us know your feelings after the torunament!
Lets rock with Storm!
ANT represented over the weekend at both BoM and Legacy Champs, no TES to be found. Just a numbers game (i.e. more folks playing ANT) or is TES not as well-position in the current meta?
There are 3 ANT decks on the Top8 of BOM (http://www.lotusnoir.info/decklists-...-event-legacy/). What it comes to my mind is that there is a need of mana stability on combo decks (as Show n tell and Elves have but not TES).
I leave you the deck I played the other day (http://evolutiongoya.com/mazo.php?torneo=55&mazo=450). You will laugh for sure
There were 5 TES among 690 players afaik and all (including me) eliminated day 1. I can only talk for myself here, but the meta was pretty rough for a fragile construct like TES with various hate within single decks, masses of Miracles/Esperblade (with Cannonist)/MUD/Painter and ontop of that I lost all but 3 dicerolls (16 rounds total with trial and Mainevent but I dropped the last one in both events due to being practically eliminated).Quote:
Originally Posted by davelin
Regarding your question: It was both. A lot more players (and good ones too) picked ANT for the event, which is more successful in outplaying manadenial/-block which was omnipresent.
Losing dicerolls against decks like Painter/MUD/Miracles/etc. is a near 1-2 loss and the sources/results of my defeats. It doesn't matter if you beat the rest then. :/
Didn't face a single deck which Telemin would have been an option. Guess being unlucky again.