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Re: Raise, raise, raise. The price of cardboard
SCG has them back up at 60 for nm again, last week they were 50.
They're sold out of NM as well, just an fyi.
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Cradles are ebaying as low as $42-45.
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If you don't have Cradles, I would buy them now. A card like that will always be good, and only get better as more creatures are printed.
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Gaea's Cradle is always a good investment. It's on the reserve list and a particular staple for tabletop players and EDH. It's not likely they will ever print something as strong again also even in green. I would highly recommend picking them up anytime you see one in a trade folder.
Splinter Twin up to $10. Knew that was coming. Anyway, the release card Phyrexian Metamorph is actually going to be used. If you remember Project X from standard during Time Spiral, you'll remember that Saffi combo? well, it's possible with this new guy with the Relic Warder and a Soul's Attendant. Not great, but people will want to try it. It's also EDH gold so best to grab some before it goes over the $5 mark. It won't go too high due to it being a release card, but it's a safe one to grab for sheer trade value if anything.
Bloodchief Ascension is crap. Dump them now. Oh wait, it always was. Anyway, dump them now while people are still paying too much for them. Mindcrank is cute, but junk.
Transmute Artifact is starting to get noticed and I have seen a bunch of tester decks with them. You were warned and knew it was coming.
The new infect 1 drop elf makes Legacy infect better, but it's still unstable. Bah. I was really hoping. Cool, for those who forget what it's capable of doing.
Dispatch. don't bother. Affinity does not need Swords. Sounded good on paper. Crap in practice. Maybe someone will find a decent use, but current Affinity itself isn't going to be packing it. Takes away from the aggro too much.
Tezzeret's Gambit - I have to admit I am impressed in a way. Standard playable for sure. Night's Whisper in Legacy is already meh, but this is blue after all and proliferate has some odd interactions. Maybe, but probably not.
Gitaxian Probe - Ummm, yeah. Get some. This is soooo worth it. I really kind of thought this would be a bleh card until I had proxied up ones playing it for fun. It's actually pretty damned good. I mean Standard, Extended, Legacy, and probably Vintage good. It's always been pretty hot to see someone's hand to know how to play a certain way. It's some good stuff to do it for nothing more than 2 life. No loss of card, no loss of mana is a big deal. I really, really like this card. I'm getting foils. If you're a calculating person who likes to plan turns in advance and make every move with precision, you will love this thing.
Maze of Ith. It's due. Time to spike Maze.
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talking financial magic gets me hot an bothered ;)
friend picked up 1x playset of twins and 1 foil playset of twins for 20 bucks this past week. profit much.
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I got lucky and picked up a Sword of Fire and Ice today for $15 from a vender at the pre-release. It's heavily played but works and looks fine in a sleeve. I was happy cause I had already written off ever paying $30+ for that thing.
Also, there was another vender that had a Maze of Ith in a case for $25. I tipped a friend off about it who needed one. He went to buy the card and when he handed the guy the money he had his boss ring it up, who I think looked up the card quickly and he was like, "oh wait, this is now $40." My friend was like, yeah you will never get my business again. It really pissed me off. Breach of contract.
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So I have finally come around to making an EDH deck after being told by everyone how amazing it is. I'm actually pretty excited about the deck I'm putting together.
That being said, a lot of attention was drawn to EDH/Commander when Wizards announced that they would be selling precons. Prior to that, interest had been growing steadily. After the precon announcement a lot of websites started writing articles about Commander and gave a lot of attention to the format. EDH staples have been rising.
I feel like there is going to be another big wave of price increases on EDH staples - after the Precons go on sale. Once the precons go on sale, within 6 months of that taking place I predict a very substantial increase on EDH staples. Basically the number of EDH players is going to increase more significantly than anything we have seen. First people will buy the precons, but many will get interested in the format and want to build their own decks. They will realize that they need all the same staples that everyone else is wanting too.
I have been ebaying and placing orders on online retailers over the past week to pick up the cards for my EDH deck and have been surprised at how my of the cards are out of stock or are relatively expensive - and I'm not even talking about foils. I am glad that I'm getting most of this done before the precons go on sale and literally thousands more people get into the format.
I would recommend that if you plan on getting into EDH, do it soon before the format explodes after the precons hit the market.
What are others' thoughts on this? Am I overstating the potential increase in popularity and price? I really feel like there could be an unprecedented jump in card prices and scarcity for EDH staples shortly after the precons go on sale, similar to that of the recent Legacy staples increases.
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I think you're spot on, the same thing happened on MODO, when they released the Legacy pre-cons and the duals got reprinted in Master's Edition IV. Tarmogoyf jumped from 15-20 to 28-32 and is now in the 40-50 range. Wasteland went from 25-ish to 60, all because the events attracted so many new players.
Hopefully, it will open WoTC's eyes regarding the oppressive price and rarity of eternal staples
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Royal Ass.
What are others' thoughts on this? Am I overstating the potential increase in popularity and price? I really feel like there could be an unprecedented jump in card prices and scarcity for EDH staples shortly after the precons go on sale, similar to that of the recent Legacy staples increases.
No, you are right about how much influence EDH has on the secondary market.
I still can't believe a pretend format holds this kind of sway over that stuff. It's ridiculous.
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No, you are right about how much influence EDH has on the secondary market.
I still can't believe a pretend format holds this kind of sway over that stuff. It's ridiculous.
Stuff like duplicant, Solemn simulacrum, Maze of Ith and Sensei's Top are fetching ridiculous prices already. With the easy accessibility of the Pre Cons, newbies will be hunting for staples like those and they are definitely going to take off. Sol ring is already 10-15USD and it's soldly used in EDH (vintage too, but still). I'm sandbagging my EDH pimp to release later. I also think the Judge Foil Demonics are undervalued at 50 USD. It's sold out everywhere and every pimp black deck needs it. Another think I think is gonna rise is Mana Crypt. It's been hovering @ 50++ for a long time and those things are really really hard to find.
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ivanpei
Stuff like duplicant, Solemn simulacrum, Maze of Ith and Sensei's Top are fetching ridiculous prices already. With the easy accessibility of the Pre Cons, newbies will be hunting for staples like those and they are definitely going to take off. Sol ring is already 10-15USD and it's soldly used in EDH (vintage too, but still). I'm sandbagging my EDH pimp to release later. I also think the Judge Foil Demonics are undervalued at 50 USD. It's sold out everywhere and every pimp black deck needs it. Another think I think is gonna rise is Mana Crypt. It's been hovering @ 50++ for a long time and those things are really really hard to find.
Mana Crypt has moved from $40 recently though...
Set Foil Sensei's Divining Tops are criminally undervalued... $35 right now...
/ Owns 4.
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mchainmail
Mana Crypt has moved from $40 recently though...
Set Foil Sensei's Divining Tops are criminally undervalued... $35 right now...
/ Owns 4.
Agreed, I have 4 too, still need 1 more for my EDH, the FTV ones are ugly! I got them at 30$. On another note, Sensei's top @ 15-20 for NM is pretty high!
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Agreed, I have 4 too, still need 1 more for my EDH, the FTV ones are ugly! I got them at 30$. On another note, Sensei's top @ 15-20 for NM is pretty high!
Yeah i remember trading with a guy a week after legacy price spikes. I hadn't been watching the mtg market for about a month due to an illness and came back. A guy had one and i was pulling out his staples. When I did here were the values:
Counterbalance is like $7, Polluted Delta is $22, Sensei's top is $7-8?
The guy wanted 8 for the balance, i said okay, and the delta was fine, but i suddenly became a three headed giant in the room when he heard how i valued his top. A few people who were around suddenly said "Dude, check the price on top, that card went way up recently." - i ended up not trading for the top at the time because i felt its spike was too sudden and i wanted a playset so a singleton would only help for edh possibilities.
Looking back on it now, if it doesn't get reprinted in the precons we'll probably see tops hit $20 before the year's over.
FWIW i wouldn't stock up on common/uncommon edh staples like top, sol ring, lightning greaves, or any other similar cards. WOTC is free to reprint these and could very well do so in the precons to help get more sales from the people who want the staples. Sol Ring is only legal in vintage otherwise so it's not a card people will cry over being reprinted (it hasn't been reprinted in a non-pimp form since revised), but it's also a card that if they reprint in one precon gives it a huge advantage over the others, and it's not something they'd reprint for all 5 so it's possible they may not print it. Greaves has had reprints already, which means they're not against putting more out there, it's not exactly a card that people will get in a twist over, but it's also been reprinted which means they may use their slots for something else.
What could happen is have one uncommon staple in each one as a form of balance. One deck will get top, another gets ring, another gets greaves, another gets skullclamp, and the last one gets something like strip mine (or dare i say, wasteland? But more likely tectonic edge) as a single staple in each and to drive sales towards them for those key cards also (or so people have to buy all 5 to get their hardcore edh staples)
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ivanpei
Agreed, I have 4 too, still need 1 more for my EDH, the FTV ones are ugly! I got them at 30$. On another note, Sensei's top @ 15-20 for NM is pretty high!
Got my set for 15. Like a boss.
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I've been buying up boxes of Kamigawa since tops were uncommons in that set and I always thought that was a little silly charging that much for that card, but whatever.
EDH is having a huge bearing on prices anymore. Try and buy a foil Azami or Asuza right now. Some of the older generals that are worth playing are silly too. Sisay is one of note. Kind of glad I have most of the mono colored ones in foil on accident.
Here's an odd trend. I wanted a few more Demonic Tutors for EDH so I decided to go bid on some. I tend to put my bidding based on how much completed auctions go for. $6 was what ended up being the average. How did that go down? Those used to be solid $10 cards almost no matter what. I ended up getting 3 of them for $4 average overall. That seems wrong, but that's what people were getting them for. The ones I picked up were some non-minty Revised ones and not perfect, but still. The Divine vs Demonic one sure is going for a ton though.
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Even Beta copies have dropped like stones. Previously 80-90$ Beta Tutors are now in the 60's and 70's. Not sure what's happening here.
-Matt
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there are so many options (prints) for DT and it is only ever played as a singleton in a couple of formats so it's never going to have much of a value (unless its super-collectable like summer of course)
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Speaking of SDT, I got mine when Kamigawa came out. I though it was like a budget Scroll Rack (and at that time, Scroll Racks were $7-10 each, which was pretty expensive back in the day). I guess I got lucky.
I got my Counterbalance at $5 each, and I though I got ripped at that point (this was last summer).
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I also think the the Judge foil demonic is the "pimp of choice" since it's foil. Beta ones have less Wow factor I guess. BTW, how much do you think a foil Karn PW will end up stabilizing? SCG has them @ 80 usd sold out, and ebay ones are up to 90 USD. I think It'll drop eventually but not by much. I think normal karn will stabilize 15-20 and Foil ones anywhere between 50-70.
On another note, it's a staple in EVERY edh deck. It's recurring colourless removal. Every EDH deck wants it, even more so than Jace TMS! It's the most playable Walker for EDH so far. IMO foil Karns will never drop below 50. I've seen one, it looks SICK in foil.
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Hello,
I did a google search and I stumbled upon this thread/forum.
I quit playing MTG years ago, but I have a lot of the stuff that is "hot" right now. I Played from Ice Age to Apocalypse and I was wondering if anyone can give me some advice as to what commons/uncommons are "hot" from this block? My cousin helped me out a little bit he said Priest of Titania were selling for $3/$4 a piece on eBay. I have like 15 of them. (I bought a lot of the urza's block. Have the entire set of Saga)
I know brainwash is worth a couple bucks a piece too and probably voltic key. Any other cards that were once considered junk rares or uncommons / commons I might have lying around that I could probably sell?
Thanks!
edit: also is there a better place to sell cards than eBay?
