[Deck] MonoU OmniTell

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Originally Posted by sawatarix

Thx for the quick response Mackan and Adan.
Well, I get your point here.
But, this deck has only 5 ways to get basic Swamp (4 fetchlands+Swamp itself) so I'm wondering if you have had colour problems so far. for instance you have 1-2 discard spell(s) but no black source...
1 Underground Sea could be useful here although it's a nonbasic Land.

repeal reads: 2U: bounce target hatebear. Draw a card.
In this case it is exactly the same like Repulse :D
#EDHStuff

dismember or ghastly demise comes into my mind for instant removal alongside 2 Massacre.

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It's true that sometimes it's hard to fetch the basic swamp but also remember that we play five billion cantrips. It's often not a problem to find the swamp in time and it's awesome to have it around until you find/need that massacre. It's also a nice insurance with slaughter pact (which btw I think is the best removal spell for this deck, when splashing black... I mean ZERO mana).

I also play 2 lotus petals so my number of black sources is 12 which is perfectly fine.

I really like petals in the deck... G1 you want to be explosive and paired with discard you get soooooo many free wins. Game2 you often side them out and go for the grindier game vs decks with a lot of hate. Petal is not only great with Show and tell and reduce the cost of DTT by 2 but paired up with flusterstorm and thoughtseize you have "50% more force of will" than your blue opponent.

I dont get why Fact or Fiction became a popular SB choice. Can someone explain it to me?

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Originally Posted by kkkant

I dont get why Fact or Fiction became a popular SB choice. Can someone explain it to me?

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Honesty i have no idea.

Chris Van Meter mentioned it as one of the options when you (like him) want a business spell to fetch with Cunning Wish.

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Originally Posted by KobeBryan

Im not sure how to deal with Ashen Rider. The matchup against reanimator is so bad, I don't have too many chances to even play around my sideboard cards. Or at least every time I face a reanimator opponent, which is rare these days.

For someone that isn't facing lethal, you can always go cunning wish, call, then twincast the call for double emrakhals. That should be enough. I just can't really think of a time when I need release if i can get double emrakhals. Unless that person is not facing lethal, has ensnaring bridge out and I cannot win the game with one emrakhl. I just don't see this situation all to often.

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In a pure race situation there's pretty much only Dredge that can survive a double Emrakul and maybe Land but if Elves put down a Reclamation Sage or a deck plays a random Oblivion Ring, Vendilion Clique, trigger + Krosan Grip or whatever, it might be a tougher fight.

There might be some situations involving discard + Surgical Extraction but this might only happen if decklists are known.

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Originally Posted by kkkant

I dont get why Fact or Fiction became a popular SB choice. Can someone explain it to me?

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As far as Wish-able business goes, a lousy DTT that powers actual DTT isn't the worst. Out of curiosity, has anyone running the red splash actually Wished and hardcasted Foresight to refuel before?

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Originally Posted by wonderPreaux

As far as Wish-able business goes, a lousy DTT that powers actual DTT isn't the worst. Out of curiosity, has anyone running the red splash actually Wished and hardcasted Foresight to refuel before?

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Never

Its already hard enough to cast FF, let alone cunning wishing for it then casting it.

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Originally Posted by wonderPreaux

As far as Wish-able business goes, a lousy DTT that powers actual DTT isn't the worst. Out of curiosity, has anyone running the red splash actually Wished and hardcasted Foresight to refuel before?

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I still don't see why you would want Fact or Fiction. In games that I expect to be grindy, I usually side out one DTT that I can still access with CWish (this also kinda jacks up the number of counter-baits for the postboard games). Fact or Fiction - and I've seen Gifts Ungiven in some cases - just feel so wrong in a metagame that has got a lot of taxing counters (Daze, Pierce, Flusterstorm) and taxing effects (Thalia, Thorn of Amethyst).

Mind that Delve also circumvents Thalia.

Having DTT and Noxious Revival in the board makes Cunning Wishes very versatile in the postboard games. In other lists, drawing more than one is usually very painful as the 1st Cunning Wish you cast is okay and any Cunning Wish drawn beyond that is just crap as it can only be used as a pure wincon under Omniscience, but not as a "swiss army knife".

So overall I believe siding out a DTT is way better than playing stuff like Fact or Fiction. I'd probably play something that's actually useful. So far I have no experience with the red splash, but there's a potentially good card that hasn't seen play so far: Volcanic Fallout. However, I believe the need for double-R makes it unplayable, at least with just 2 Volcanics as a red source.

Carpet Of Flowers

Iv been thinking that this could work kinda like Defense Grid in my board. I also feel like it could be completed by some thing ridiculous in the color scheme.

Im aware of the risks from splashing. Im not looking to debate whether this is good or not.

Im looking for ideas on what else could be gained from Carpet/green splash.

With that said lets have a little fun with this.

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Originally Posted by Curtis Dittmar

Carpet Of Flowers

Iv been thinking that this could work kinda like Defense Grid in my board. I also feel like it could be completed by some thing ridiculous in the color scheme.

Im aware of the risks from splashing. Im not looking to debate whether this is good or not.

Im looking for ideas on what else could be gained from Carpet/green splash.

With that said lets have a little fun with this.

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Xantid Swarm would be great for the green splash, maybe even Seedtime cuz FTW

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Originally Posted by KobeBryan

Never

Its already hard enough to cast FF, let alone cunning wishing for it then casting it.

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Some more Twincast shenanigans tonight -


Death n Taxes

spirit of the labryinth in play, hes got 2 ports, ive got 4 islands, things arent looking so good for me...

Upkeep he taps 2 of my islands, response let off UU and then another UU

DIG THROUGH TIME - TWINCAST

**LOOK AT THE TOP 14 CARDS OF YOUR LIBRARY AND PUT 4 INTO YOUR HAND AND WIN THE GAME NEXT TURN**

BONG!

I feel like Swarm wood be better if Melding Mage wasn't a thing. Sounds like blowout in the mirror though. Seedtime was a card I thought about as well,i feel like the times it would be casted are after your hand was exhausted. So the extra turn wouldn't matter so much. Id probably run one though just because.

The only matchs im really scared of are Stoneblade and BUG Delver.

Id want the card/s to synergize with Carpet of Flowers and be something they kust cant handle. I have 5 slots after the wishboard and Carpets.







Hahaha Twincast+Dig..awesome.

One thing that hasn't been said about carpet is that they can be additionnal and unsymetrical show and tells, especially in multiples. I used carpet of flowers to that effect in reanimator in 2010.

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Originally Posted by famdoola

Some more Twincast shenanigans tonight -


Death n Taxes

spirit of the labryinth in play, hes got 2 ports, ive got 4 islands, things arent looking so good for me...

Upkeep he taps 2 of my islands, response let off UU and then another UU

DIG THROUGH TIME - TWINCAST

**LOOK AT THE TOP 14 CARDS OF YOUR LIBRARY AND PUT 4 INTO YOUR HAND AND WIN THE GAME NEXT TURN**

BONG!

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And yet again, Twincast should be Split Decision.

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Originally Posted by Lejay

One thing that hasn't been said about carpet is that they can be additionnal and unsymetrical show and tells, especially in multiples. I used carpet of flowers to that effect in reanimator in 2010.

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Agreed, just casting Omni sounds wonderfull.

I wish there was some better planswalkers/cretchers in these colors. How do you think Mistcutter Hydra sounds?

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Originally Posted by Adan

And yet again, Twincast should be Split Decision.

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can you explain the difference? Not familiar with the advantages/disadvantages of each, aside from the terrible art on Split decision haha

It costs U1 instead of UU, which could matter in some scenarios.

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Originally Posted by Baum

It costs U1 instead of UU, which could matter in some scenarios.

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word, its just the art on Split Decision makes me wanna gag, i should get one altered and play with it, otherwise it will ruin the beautiful aesthetic masterpiece i've built

I shot a twincast today back at a player who tried to hymn me

He lost quite a bit of cards after, a spell pierce and another hymn.

In another match, against Jeskai, he had a meddling mage out. He tried to bolt me (don't ask why), i twincast it and killed his stupid mage

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Originally Posted by famdoola

word, its just the art on Split Decision makes me wanna gag, i should get one altered and play with it, otherwise it will ruin the beautiful aesthetic masterpiece i've built

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Just leave this thread. Seriously.

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Originally Posted by KobeBryan

I shot a twincast today back at a player who tried to hymn me

He lost quite a bit of cards after, a spell pierce and another hymn.

In another match, against Jeskai, he had a meddling mage out. He tried to bolt me (don't ask why), i twincast it and killed his stupid mage

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When I was grinding a few sideevents at GP Utrecht, I played a match against Esperblade and we both looked at each others hands (Probe & Thoughtseize). He did not cast his Dig Through Time because I had Split Decision in hand, and he knew when he casted his DTT, he would just bring me back into the game because I'd copy his DTT and then counter it.
And in another game it doubled as an additional Counterspell to punch through my Show and Tell. In a rather absurd match on Cockatrice, it happened that someone hardcasted a Force of Will on my Show and Tell with Boseiju. I copied Show and Tell with Split Decision and won nevertheless.

On a sidenote, the Hymn to Tourach scenario is rather interesting. With Split Decision, you could - depending on the boardstate and handcards - also announce that you'd like to counter it instead. Then it will be the opponent's choice whether you trade 3 for 3 or 1 for 1. This could definitely make a difference, especially against a deck like Jund.