It's not a Nic Fit card though.
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It's not a Nic Fit card though.
See my notes in the Ravnica thread. It also tutors reanimate, entomb, thoughtseize, and other undetermined black 1 mana cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by kinda
@Echelon: I agree, this is not a Nic Fit card.
I am thinking of building up Nic Fit. The deck seems to be lot of fun to play. I would love to build up the Enchantress/ Academy Rector variant with Living Plane. I haven`t found really much deck lists for that variant, so it doesn`t see much play. So I am not sure, if this Nic Fit variant is competive anymore, especally with the upcoming of the Trophy. For example your oppents now will have a relative easy option for dealing with a Splendor. Is and will Rector- Enchantment Nicfit still be a strong deck?
Sure, b/c BGx won't be 100% of the meta.
And when facing BGx you'll just have to board in more discard.
Also, Dovescape just becomes more important.
http://mythicspoiler.com/grn/cards/knightofautumn.jpg
This card looks like a nice one of in the Junk Nic-Fit deck.
It replaces Rec. Sage without a doubt
Another card to toy with Recurring Nightmare for Junk clearly a better Rec Sage. As an Elves players its a shame its a Dryad creature :rolleyes: Overall another Target for Zenith ToolboxQuote:
Originally Posted by Ganfar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjPrBqfWEGU
What do you think of this variant of nic fit played by Andrea Mengucci? I find it very interesting :smile:
Slow and clunky as heck and not worth the money. If you want to splurge that much on a Legacy deck just go for anything that runs the cantrip suite and all that comes with it and you'll have a much better chance vs. most of the meta.
If you're in fair Junk, I'd be even tempted to run 2 of them maindeck. Card is pretty insane upgrade over Rec Sage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Echelon
Fair Junk with Archons? Maybe I could be tempted back to it.
Yeah seems so dependent on luck of the draw and hoping your opponent cannot disrupt your fragile combo. Watching his video within a few turns he's completely out of gas most games and relying on top deck. I wonder if Bant would be a better approach to that deck. Cantrips, FoW, and Perilous Research are probably better than discard from black given the way the deck plays. You cannot really play a control game anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Echelon
His deck list has way too many wincons in the deck (11 in his list) which just adds to the clunkiness. With brainstorm you can cut that number down since you won't get cards stranded in your hand. Hymn was destroying him every game which brainstorm would help with as well.
Still doubt the deck would be very good.
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Originally Posted by Purple Blood
an idea would be to put the leyline of sanctity in the side by changing them with the leyline of the void, it helps a lot against hymn, thoughtsize various and burn, and against the gy put at least 3 surgical.
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Originally Posted by Purple Blood
I've played this deck and it's so much fun. I've won a couple local events with it.
I thought I posted this before but apparently didn't.
3 different Nic Fit lists made the Legacy Constructed list a week or two ago: https://magic.wizards.com/en/article...gue-2018-09-22
All three of them were either academy or arena rector builds, or a combination of the two.
Hi. Which discard you chose after therapies?
Now I'm running 3 duress in SB. But thinking about putting something different into main. It's obviously about hymn (own)/thoughtseize(don't have).
My pros and cons.
Hymn To Tourah:
+makes 2for1
+takes anything from hand
+don't cost life
+simply like it ;-)
-Playable MOSTLY after therapy
-Needs BB on turn 2
Thoughtseize :
+takes anything
+needs only B
+superb when followed by therapy (playable any moment)
-Costs life
-1for1
And what reccursion other than witness is your choice? Reccuring nightmare/meren/volrath's stronghold/Nissa vital force -ability? Any others?
Sorry for mistakes, writing on mobile ;-)
Hymn is an option for pure BG lists. For 3 colour lists you're probably best off running Thoughtseize.
For recursion I like Meren a lot, since she's GSZ'able. In a fair list I also run a Volrath's Stronghold, in lists with Rectors (either fair or Evo Leap) I run neither.
Out of pure curiosity (I'm not running Nic Fit at the moment): I'm sure Sylvan Safekeeper has been tried in Nic Fit, how did it perform? In Turbo Depths it's an all-star at protecting Marig Lage, I imagine it would do the same for Nic Fit considering the amount of card advantage it could provide with Ramanup Excavator/Crucible (or even Loam.)
Sacrificing lands isn't CA.
It has seen play in builds with Titania as potential blowout.
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Originally Posted by Echelon
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...card advantage it could provide with Ramanup Excavator/Crucible (or even Loam.)
Replaying a land in that manner isn't necessarily useful nor something I'd consider CA... I'd care very little about playing the same Forest 10 turns in a row.
It completely nullifies opponent's removal. Seems alright to me.
What do You mean by fair list? ;-) I'm mostly in rhino fit, now with Meren and Witness on board. But sometimes I feel it's not enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Echelon
I've played her in lists with Titania and Trackers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Safety
The issue with Safekeeper + Ramunap + ??? is like...it's a bit over the top. Safekeeper to protect something that will win (???) ((unless you are going to use Ramunap land recursion to win...which is slow and doesn't deal with threats already on the board)) plus something to help recur the lands is just way too slow. If you have Safekeeper in play -already- by the time you cast Titania, then fine. If Titania by herself survives a turn...then you probably don't need the followup Safekeeper anyway.
Safekeeper early on doesn't ramp you, you'll probably spend two mana early on to GSZ for Vet instead. Wasting a GSZ to get Safekeeper in play -before- any other threat is generally a waste of a turn or waste of a GSZ. If there's an increase in targeted destruction effects (Trophy) then a single Meren might be better. E Witness can get anything back from Trophy anyway.
Safekeeper + Ramunap is fine on the land destruction front, but it's a poor plan to counter the T1 delver that is going to kill you.
Posting while on deployment. Bear with me.
The new 1GW guy seems nice and flexible, I woukd run 1-2 of. Replaces Sage, and likely Qasali. Meren looks a but stronger, as does Rec Nightmare with no DRS in the format.
I think Assassin's Trophy is VERY interesting considering we exploit PTE to great effect. However, Daze and Snare are really where you lose those Delver matchups. I would consider still keeping your removal and just tweaking numbers. Ex. 2 Trophy 3 Decay 2 Path still is a nice split.
Any thoughts?
I was originally thinking Trophy is just another good removal spell. The more I've played with it though, the more I'm on the 4 of plan. It's just that good.
@sdematt You've found the new good stuff. I've replaced AD for AT 1-on-1 for now, I run a 3 PtE, 2 AT split.
Does Nic-Fit died? :( Almost month without Your posts. No tournament reports, no techs, nothing...
Assasin's thropy placed in Abrupt's slots? Maybe You play split or other versions?
Autumn Knight is quite obvious replacemnt for sage/pridemate :)
For better or worse, most folks moved over to the discord.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gruby
Academy Rector Nic fit just went undefeated in a 11/3 Online league:
https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=20472&d=334264&f=LE
Evolutionary Leap list. Cool
Went undefeated, there is no top 8 in leagues, so position 6 is just an arbitrary ranking.
Oops, thanks for the correction. Edited.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philipp2293
Agree, my favorite onesQuote:
Originally Posted by Echelon
About the list: dunno, seems many targets for me. Ground Seal maindeck is... strange, now that DRS is gone?
Plenty of Surgicals going round. The only duds in the list in my opinion are the Sandwurm Convergence and Curse of Misfortunes.
Splendor makes Convergence obsolete, Misfortunes is unnecessarily slow and risky.
For me is Reality obsolete, Convergence is a way faster clock and often a more impactful card than RealityQuote:
Originally Posted by Echelon
Cruel Reality is a hard lock once your opponent is in topdeck mode... Convergence is just a worse Splendor. As a clock it's irrelevant. Once you establish the lock you can kill your opponent with whatever.
For me, the last phrase is an error while discussing this deck, both IRL and MTGO due to time constraints, especially if you've lost the first gameQuote:
Originally Posted by Echelon
Once you've established a lock your turns can completed in under 60 seconds...
Extracted from the big file North America Legacy Champs 2018 Coverage, Decklists, and Results....
Steven Thompson List from EW 2018 place 110
https://i.imgur.com/5nLOOsl.png
Samuel Castrucci List from EW 2018 place 39
https://i.imgur.com/21L7120.png
I hope this will help.
I am not on discord, just busy. I do not even know what discord is.
I am going to try this list when I get back soon:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gruby
4 Veteran Explorer
2 BOP
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Scryb Ranger
1 Knight of Autumn
1 Eternal Witness
1 Shalai
3 Siege Rhino
1 Sigarda, Host of Herons
1 Thragtusk
1 Carnage Tyrant
3 Pernicious Deed
3 Assassin's Trophy
2 Abrupt Decay
2 Path to Exile
4 Green Suns Zenith
4 Cabal Therapy
2 Sylvan Library
1 Painful Truths
1 Recurring Nightmare
1 Enlightened Tutor
Board
2 Blood Moon
2 Choke
2 Thoughtseize
2 Pithing Needle
2 Ethersworn Canonist
1 Gaddock Teeg
2 Surgical Extraction
2 Slaughter Games/Lost Legacy