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Stone cold nuts in the right meta. Atm more and more people sleeve up Griselbrand and Emrakul in various shells trying to cheat on "fair" decks. Cheating on THOSE with Bribery is awesome. Being able to wish for a Griselbrand for 3UU is a nice Way to outrace S&T, TinFins and Sneak attackQuote:
Originally Posted by Megadeus
Increasing your Turn 1 kill ratio for a Single SB spot is reasonable
The issue though is that it is only good vs a portion of the meta. Not that I don't think it isn't good. It definitely seems insane on paper. Sometimes it is just Difficult to make double blue after a BW
You still play Diminishing Returns, don't you? Same, same but different. Wish 4 Bribery ends the Game on the Spot against all those Decks. No need to work towards hellbent Infernal in a limited timeframe. I once even keep a loose 6 vs. NicFit in game 2 ... That Turn 1 Grave Titan was really ok :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Megadeus
I hate returns so much... and on T1 the only way to make blue mana is off of LED. I definitely want to try it out. Im just playing devils advocate
Pointing out weaknesses of suggestions in combination with active testing is the best form of critic I can think off :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Megadeus
How often will you get something from a SNT deck and they just drop omni and kill you?
Don't they play Griselbrand too? I agree that Bribery for Emrakul isn't hot against a S&T next turn, putt'n Omniscience into playQuote:
Originally Posted by Megadeus
Edit: Checked the Forum ... they do. So this is a non-issue, because you won't pass the Turn without killing them or ... worst case ... chant-Walk them forever with petals + silence while beating with a 7/7 flying lifelinker
You get Griselbrand, draw 14 and kill them.
Chances of that not working I recon are below 10%.
And if they don't play Griselbrand, they still need mana for S&T.
The Emrakul annihilator 6 will stop them from getting that mana.
Audience opinionQuote:
Originally Posted by Asthereal
Off work early woo! Haha. But I believe that Bribery would be good as you said in certain Metas. I may test it out next time I play the deck as it sounds like a very powerful option no doubt.
Bribery seems ok, but seems much too narrow compared with Ill-Gotten Gains. I don't think I'd be able to justify playing it over IGG unless TinFins becomes a DTB...
In my local meta ive seen as many as 4 tin fins decks at a time. Along with reanimator and SNT popping up from time to time. Ill probably give it a go
As I said, it's not just TinFin's. IGG fell outta my grace the moment it wasn't played along Cabal Ritual for real Tutor-chains (IGG mainboard in ol' UB ANT) anymore. The posterboy Double LED + Wish + additional Tutor Scenario came up too rare too justify it's spot for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by jin
Bribery is hilarious - if anyone on TES casts that against me when I'm piloting Tin Fins they will certainly get a High-5 on the spot.
You guys disappoint me.
BW->Bribery is about as good as IT->Ad Nauseum against Griselbrand decks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Cook
In all seriousness though, beating Tin Fins with TES shouldn't be that tough - just takes some good mulligan decisions. Chant effects and discard are key. If you disrupt their hand early, they'll sit there and cantrip for a while allowing you to combo.
Nab entomb as fast as possible, and don't be stingy with Chants - chant walk them and move to win step. And if you're on the Ad Naus plan, try to get enough mana to chant them if you drew any during your combo as well to make sure they can't "get you" with Children of Korlis.
At the cost of sideboard card. You would have to cut Xantid Swarm and then make the other Swarm another protection spell. At this point you're removing a card that's good against Tide, Sneak Show, Reanimator, Merfolk, Post as well as a few others to improve less match-ups.Quote:
Originally Posted by Koby
That's a better argument against playing it than all the others I've considered. Fair point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Cook
There could be an argument for cutting the second Cabal Therapy for it, but that's very likely not right either.