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Re: Raise, raise, raise. The price of cardboard
Ben, I tried to deal with your staff at the GP on Beta duals, but they said there was no room to budge on prices. Are you prices not flexible on thousand dollar cards at all?
Then, I wanted to come back to your booth on Sunday and possibly make a deal, but you guys left. I fly across the continent to come play and buy cards from you guys, but you left :(
-Matt
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sigfig8
I'm waiting patiently for the opportunity to convert a full set of 40 SP/NM duals for a set of power. I wonder if that will ever be possible. Maybe sans the lotus?
According to Apathyhouse, a full set of 40 duals is worth $2,143.72, while the full set of Power 9 (with Twister, not Vault) is worth $3,503.36, with Lotus accounting for $824.13 of that.
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RaNDoMxGeSTuReS
Yeah, like revised Bayous on SCG are $80.
Plenty on Ebay for $60.
Yeah, I got just one yesterday for $51.
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Yep yep. Recent ebay purchases.
-Tropical Island $75
-Tropical Island $75
-Volcanic Island $50
Makes me think the people who buy things off SCG are insane.
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RaNDoMxGeSTuReS
Makes me think the people who buy things off SCG are insane.
That, or they are rich and/or lazy and/or time-poor... Not everyone can afford (or is patient enough) to wait for ebay, but clearly, they can afford the premium from SCG.
Prices seem to have settled some following the GP, let's wait for the next junk card to spike up!
OTOH, Sol Ring may well plummet following the Commander reprint...
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RaNDoMxGeSTuReS
Yep yep. Recent ebay purchases.
-Tropical Island $75
-Tropical Island $75
-Volcanic Island $50
Makes me think the people who buy things off SCG are insane.
Congrats on the sweet pickups. The prices are pretty insane on SCG, but they are up there on all of the other websites too. I just dont think that the trend will hit ebay for a little while.
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The worst argument I heard over the weekend in regards to justification of price of entry in Eternal formats:
"Who cares how much it is to get in? How many other goods can you think of that you can buy one day, and sell in two weeks/a month and get 100% of your money back?"
Yes. Because let's leave issues such as initial financial barriers, the constant urge to permanently expand the player base and the lack of understanding a player's primary motivation behind actually acquiring format staples (which I mistakenly assumed was 'to play with them') in the first place. Honestly, the individual and I went back-and-forth a few times as we were perusing singles at the card shop, and it didn't occur to me at the time to ask the fellow if he was less a player and more a collector. But honestly, if I'm playing Legacy and purchasing dual lands, in what way as a player do I gain any ground by simply selling my duals in two weeks? It felt like an argument which came entirely from a collector, not a player, and I just don't understand the reasoning here - honestly, I don't understand the reasoning as either aspect of the argument. Doesn't a collector prefer to hold onto their 'investment' for either financial or sentimental reasons? Just what am I missing here?
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It isn't a strong argument, but it's removing the issue that plagues Type 2 from the equation.
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Does anyone on here follow MTGO prices? I am thinking of buying FoWs since they have dropped in price following the GP, but I am worried that the price of FoW will just continue to drop. Does anyone have any thoughts?
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Force of Will isn't a card that drops for long. It's a pretty safe investment no matter if it's paper or mtgo. I don't have to follow prices on mtgo to know that. Even in the case of a reprint the card retains a ton of value due to the art being quite good and hard to top.
It's a card that will always be needed in the format. Of course, that's not counting the extremely unlikely event that they actually make a better one.
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BKclassic
Does anyone on here follow MTGO prices? I am thinking of buying FoWs since they have dropped in price following the GP, but I am worried that the price of FoW will just continue to drop. Does anyone have any thoughts?
If you're buying FOW to speculate, then you're not going to get good returns on this specific card. (highly fluctuating, not stable, not very liquidible as 75tix = max trade)
If you're buying FOW to play with, then the sooner you get them, the sooner you can play good decks. (and start winning/going infinite)
Either way, you would now have FOW which you didn't before, which opens up many options.
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Thanks for the advice guys, I decided to take the plunge.
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I'm borderline plunging into the Magic Online scene as well... I just don't have chance to play IRL with my schedule and am getting very tired of arguing over rules with the clueless MWS population :-/
Is the program pretty easy to get used to? And what's the best way to get cards/tix?
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I bailed on real life magic for MTGO and I am pretty pleased. It does take a while to get used to the ins and outs of the program but after a while it becomes second nature. Cards are pretty easy to get, there are superstores that have almost every card. This is a good place to go to find out the price of cards, though you can generally find them a bit cheaper then what is listed there.
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Hive Mind has seen atleast a 100% increase in value from a .40 rare.
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Hive Mind will always be a $0.25-1.00 card. I find it hilarious when people are banking on crap rares like this (Energy Field). The deck was meant to be cheap but competitive outside of FoW/Intuition/Monoliths. Focus your attention somewhere else, it's not worth it.
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Hive mind is a rare in a set with mythic rare's/it's price will never go above 5. Sure foil one's are at 5 now but that's foil ones. The non foil version is still a dollar.
Force is just going to go up if they never reprint it, IRL and on MTGO. It's quite scarce on MTGO though since it's 150 last I checked there.
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So, preorder prices are going crazy for Commander cards. Seems odd.
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Are any Legacy playable?
-Matt
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death
Hive Mind will always be a $0.25-1.00 card. I find it hilarious when people are banking on crap rares like this (Energy Field). The deck was meant to be cheap but competitive outside of FoW/Intuition/Monoliths. Focus your attention somewhere else, it's not worth it.
If you buy 50 hive minds at $0.25 then they become $1.25 that's $1 per hive mind you just gained in value.
If you got them for $0.50 and then do cap out at $5, and you bought 50 ($25 investment) you now just gained $225 in value.
Splinter twin is a 2 card combo in standard that rotates out in 3 months, also from a set with mythics and is going for $10 a piece, and it's not even the best deck in standard.
If you have all the old stuff like monoliths, show and tells, intuitions etc already like longtime legacy players often do then to play this deck you need hive minds. So demand will increase for anyone trying to pick them up.
When it comes to a bulk rare gaining value, every dollar it gets does add up, and the investment is near nonexistent if you got them beforehand that i don't see why it matters. I picked my playset up at a total of $0.55, so even at a dollar a piece i'm getting +$3.45 on them and each quarter they go up beyond that i'd be getting $1 added in value for the set.
