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-2 fireblast +2 sylvan library.
Trust me, you'll be glad you did.
Edit//Oh shit, I didn't even realize how few lands you're playing, but god loxy is right. If you're gonna play a three drop, you need to play at least 20 lands, and 21 is better.
Is english legends really the pinnacle of pimping chain lightnings? Cuz I'm pretty sure that's what my chains are...
I'm glad we agree on this haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by hungryLIKEALION
But yeah English Legends is the pimpest they can get unfortunately. Same for Sylvan Library. I don't do foreign cards because i like to read mine. Plus English Legends is awesome. It's hard to find original foil Lavamancers, and when i do theyre expensive as hell. I'm just happy to be almost finished. I started this in Chicago when i traded for some foil Nacatl. Ahh yes.
I haven't bothered to pimp my deck at all, it's already worth $700+ so I figure that's enough of a money sink as is o.o; But I do have one foil lavamancer, though I don't actually use it since I have three normal and prefer all the copies of any card I'm using to be the same.
I've just always wanted to pimp a deck out, and I've loved Zoo since i began Magic, i figured it would be the right place to start. Plus it's not as expensive as it looks. My and my friends have all the cardpool we would ever want so the next step is to pimp things anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by hungryLIKEALION
One thing i won't foil out is prolly Goyf. 95 is too dumb a price for a card. Jitte was the most expensive and it was only 45. Worse case if I'm out of stuff to buy I'll save up but even then it looks unlikely.
Lecough I'm an idiot, I forgot to include 2 Sylvan Library in my list. Is running 19 lands really not enough? Even though I'm only playing 2 3cc main, and 2 3cc in my sideboard?
19 is just asking to be constantly mana screwed and get blown out by wasteland. If you're running kotr (or thoctar) you need to be able to cast it through wastelands, and 19 is not enough lands to do that. You're much better off just cutting 2 burn spells for 2 horizon canopies or more duals/fetches. I'd cut two chains personally, but some people like those more than helix. I don't.
hi dudes check this out
4 Grim Lavamancer
4 Kird Ape
2 Knight of the Reliquary
4 Qasali Pridemage
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Wild Nacatl
1 Price of Progress
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Lightning Helix
4 Path to Exile
2 Fireblast
2 Sylvan Library
1 Arid Mesa
1 Forest
3 Horizon Canopy
1 Mountain
1 Plains
2 Plateau
1 Savannah
3 Taiga
4 Windswept Heath
4 Wooded Foothills
sideboard:
2 Gaddock Teeg
2 Ethersworn Canonist
2 Red Elemental Blast
2 Krosan Grip
2 Umezawa's Jitte
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Tormod's Crypt
1 Price of Progress
what you all think, thats the list im thinking to sleeve up to madrid
suggestions...thanxs
@bulaxas: More Price of Progress in the board. It's too good right now to not run. All those land decks are out there, plus Aggro Loam randomly did well so expect it.
Maybe try and make some room for MD Jitte? It seems good right now in almost every matchup. I don't like Fireblast obviously so perhaps cut those and the random PoP?
The 2/2 split of Relic/Crypt in the SB seems good too. Goodluck.
Hey guys. I made a post on the other page and I've still been working on the list. I'm only running 20 lands and wondering what to cut to make 21. I feel pretty good at 20, but I've seen all you have had to say on 21 lands.
Any ideas what to cut out? I don't want to cut anymore chain lightnings. Having at least a few burn spells to burn out the opponent sometimes is nice, though I don't want to play Goyf Sligh exactly. Also I'm not sure how much I like Grim Lavamancer, if you could use his effect more than once instead of tapping him he would be that much more awesome.
I suppose I could possibly cut a kird ape.
Lands
1 Horizon Canopy
1 Forest
1 Plains
1 Mountain
2 Savannah
2 Plateau
3 Taiga
3 Windswept Heath
3 Wooded Foothills
3 Arid Mesa
20
Creatures
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Qasali Pridemage
4 Wild Nacatl
4 Kird Ape
3 Grim Lavamancer
2 Figure of Destiny
2 Knight of the Reliquary
23
Non-creatures
4 Lightning Bolt
2 Chain Lightning
4 Lightning Helix
4 Path to Exile
2 Sylvan Library
1 Umezawa's Jitte
17
Thanks for the help!
-2 Kird Ape +1 Figure +1 Horizon Canopy is my exact list ;p
Zoo made the Finals in SCG LAX. Vs Enchantress I think. They split. I would like to see the decklist. This is the meta breakdown
ANT – 12
Goblins – 11
Aggro Loam – 8
Fish – 8
Naya Zoo – 7
Belcher Combo – 6
Dredge – 6
NO Bant – 6
Threshold – 6
StifleNaught – 5
Faeries – 4
Red Deck Wins – 4
38 Land – 3
B/G Rock – 3
Bant – 3
Countertop – 3
Dragon Stompy – 3
Esper Control – 3
Mono Black Control – 3
Reanimator – 3
Survival – 3
Other – 32
Heres the 2nd place Zoo at SCG LAX
Maindeck:
Creatures
2 Figure Of Destiny
4 Grim Lavamancer
4 Kird Ape
2 Knight Of The Reliquary
4 Qasali Pridemage
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Wild Nacatl
Enchantments
2 Sylvan Library
Instants
4 Lightning Bolt
2 Lightning Helix
4 Path To Exile
Sorceries
4 Chain Lightning
Basic Lands
1 Forest
1 Mountain
1 Plains
Lands
2 Arid Mesa
2 Horizon Canopy
2 Plateau
1 Savannah
3 Taiga
3 Windswept Heath
4 Wooded Foothills
Sideboard:
3 Tormod's Crypt
2 Krosan Grip
1 Price Of Progress
3 Ravenous Trap
2 Red Elemental Blast
2 Umezawa's Jitte
2 Gaddock Teeg
Quote:
Originally Posted by DCTopTeam
Seems pretty standard but I'm a little surprised by the singleton PoP in the SB. Also, alot of graveyard hate in the SB.. More and more lists seem to be favoring Knight over Thoctar.
Here is the list he played:Quote:
Originally Posted by DCTopTeam
Maindeck:
Creatures
2 Figure Of Destiny
4 Grim Lavamancer
4 Kird Ape
2 Knight Of The Reliquary
4 Qasali Pridemage
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Wild Nacatl
Enchantments
2 Sylvan Library
Instants
4 Lightning Bolt
2 Lightning Helix
4 Path To Exile
Sorceries
4 Chain Lightning
Basic Lands
1 Forest
1 Mountain
1 Plains
Lands
2 Arid Mesa
2 Horizon Canopy
2 Plateau
1 Savannah
3 Taiga
3 Windswept Heath
4 Wooded Foothills
Sideboard:
3 Tormod's Crypt
2 Krosan Grip
1 Price Of Progress
3 Ravenous Trap
2 Red Elemental Blast
2 Umezawa's Jitte
2 Gaddock Teeg
And to the guy who was thinking of cutting Lavamancer, I would strongly recommend not too. He is just so good late game. He helps you not run out of steam
And Lavamancer is nuts against Merfolk and other Tribal Aggro.
I tried Steppe Lynx. I hated it by the way. I like Knight over Thoctar over Figure of Destiny, but I'll try him out again soon.
Hi everyone I've been reading this forum for some time now and I built a zoo deck of my own. I'm looking for some feedback on the deck please.
1 Plains
1 Mountain
1 Forest
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Windswept Heath
3 Arid Mesa
3 Taiga
2 Plateau
1 Savannah
4 Wild Nacatl
4 Kird Ape
4 Grim Lavamancer
4 Qasali Pridemage
4 Tarmogoyf
2 Knight of the Reliquary
2 Sylvan Library
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Chain Lightning
4 Path to Exile
4 Lightning Helix
Sideboard
3 Tormod's Crypt
2 Ethersworn Canonist
3 Krosan Grip
2 Price of Progress
2 Gaddock Teeg
3 Pyroclasm
Ive tested the deck a little and feel maybe I should take out 2 chain lighting and add 1 Arid Mesa and another knight or Wolly.
I have had games where I had 2 Helixes in my opening hand and trust me they are not good. I cut mine to two.Quote:
Originally Posted by IrishLegend
http://www.starcitygames.com/php/new...cle/18564.html
Do not cut lavamancers, they are just too good against early tarmogoyfs and late game against the face.
I decided to drop after going 3-2 (Charbelched turn one twice in a row) because I fell asleep after the next round. >.<Quote:
4 Grim Lavamancer
4 Kird Ape
2 Knight of the Reliquary
4 Qasali Pridemage
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Wild Nacatl
1 Chain Lightning
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Lightning Helix
4 Path to Exile
2 Fireblast
2 Sylvan Library
Lands
The only thing I would do is cut the chain lightning for another KoTR. So many 2 drops makes you weak to spellsnare when you're playing around daze.
If you have a problem with drawing two helixes you're doing it wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by DCTopTeam
Hey everybody. I have been building and playing my zoo version for a couple months now. I have just gotten back into competitive magic after several years of not playing. I have had a sligh deck for as long as I've played magic, so I was immediately drawn to zoo on the list of Decks To Beat. However, the more I play it, the more it continues to change away from "the standard" zoo's that are placing in all the legacy opens and large competitive meta's at local tournaments. I have done very well with my build at local tournies, but I am now starting to rethink the strategy that my deck went. Before, the deck was simple like the majority of the decklists on this thread. Now, it has become a highly cohesive, complicated deck with all its card interactions. here is the decklist:
----- Creatures (19) -----
3 Knight of the Reliquary
4 Nimble Mongoose
4 Qasali Pridemage
4 Steppe Lynx
4 Wild Nacatl
----- Spells (18) -----
4 Crop Rotation
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Lightning Helix
4 Path to Exile
2 Regrowth
----- Enchantments (2) ------
2 Sylvan Library
----- Lands (19) -----
3 Arid Mesa
2 Forest
1 Mountain
1 Plains
2 Plateau
2 Savannah
2 Taiga
4 Windswept Heath
4 Wooded Foothills
----- Sideboard -----
4 Gaddock Teeg
4 Chain Lightning
3 Krosan Grip
4 Tormod's Crypt
I know I am running on the low end of the creature scale with only 19 but i feel the number is perfect so let me attempt to explain my choices.
Crop Rotation
Yes I am using a whole 4 slot for this card. It not only pumps up KotR, Nimble, Steppe, but it also thins out the deck a lot. Removing KotR from having to tap to do it's ability the first turn speeds up the clock a lot on your opponents. Noone likes seing KotR go +2/+2 without even tapping.
Knight of the Reliquary
I chose Knight as my big fatty now. I used to have Woolly Thoctar when the deck was simpler, but now there is far too much synergy to use him over KotR.
Steppe Lynx
Why would I ever choose this card over Grim Lavamancer? one reason, he can and often IS bigger than Tarmogoyfs. Fetch, Land, Crop Rotation, Fetch, Land = +8/+8 per Lynx. That is why there is more or less a 50/50 split between fetch and basic lands so I can get +4/+4 at least every turn he is out. I also don't like how Grim eats my graveyard because it ruins the KotR and regrowth opportunities.
Nimble Mongoose
With Fetches, Crop Rotation, Bolts, and Helix's the graveyard fills up quite quickly. He is by far better than kird ape late game and he's not THAT far behind him early game with his ability.
Regrowth
The oppurtunity to grab any card back has been awesome. With such a low creature count (19) these can be used to up that to 21. OR it can be used when i need to grab a Crop rotation back to give lynx's +4/+4 and KotR another +2/+2 as Combat damage is being dealt. Or it can be straight up to grab another fetch to get one more land too.
Sylvan Library
With Fetches, crop rotation, and KotR shuffling the library. Grabbing whatever I need is never a problem. This really shouldn't even be an argument for any zoo deck.
I know the deck isn't perfect and not everyone will like it, but I hope that by showing my deck list and explaining my card choice I have helped moved this discussion along by bringing in a new perspective!