[Official] Bitching About Prices, Buyouts and Reprints Thread

I remember thinking it was ridiculous when Grim Monolith was unbanned in legacy and it jumped from a couple bucks to 30$, and then Bitterblossom comes along...

If they drop back to $2 each I am still ahead of the game since I collect cats.

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Originally Posted by apple713

You run the risk of zoo still sucking and them losing value

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So Noble Hierarch is up to 50 on tcgplayer...

Hierarch at 50, Seculded Glen is at 15, Grove of the Burnwillows is randomly at 45....

Is anyone even playing secluded glen in their lists?!

I saw Mistbind Clique's at 25 yesterday too, I think people might be overreacting just a little bit

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Originally Posted by [SLAYER]chaos

Is anyone even playing secluded glen in their lists?!

I saw Mistbind Clique's at 25 yesterday too, I think people might be overreacting just a little bit

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I was all for fae when i first heard blossom unbanned. Then i thought about it.... faeries were amazing because their competition wasn't much. I think you had kith kin and makeshift mannequin decks.


in modern it's very diff. You have access to pyroclasm, infest, grim lavamancer, and several combo decks...

Pridemage is also main decking since the return of zoo. Fae will get crushed by zoo. between nactal, guide, and kird ape fae's 1/1 blossom tokens aren't enough. even with a scion a few 2/2s aren't gonna cut the mustard


bitterblossom is a modern only card. It's not good enough for legacy and i feel like peoples are def overreacting.

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Originally Posted by apple713

I was all for fae when i first heard blossom unbanned. Then i thought about it.... faeries were amazing because their competition wasn't much. I think you had kith kin and makeshift mannequin decks.


in modern it's very diff. You have access to pyroclasm, infest, grim lavamancer, and several combo decks...

Pridemage is also main decking since the return of zoo. Fae will get crushed by zoo. between nactal, guide, and kird ape fae's 1/1 blossom tokens aren't enough. even with a scion a few 2/2s aren't gonna cut the mustard


bitterblossom is a modern only card. It's not good enough for legacy and i feel like peoples are def overreacting.

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Yeah I've been brewing a Deaths Shadow Zoo list with 3 MD Pridemage. The card just seems so good in the format.

there was also elves in the meta, and they were good. along w. 5 color control.

When did noble hierach become so high in price ?

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Originally Posted by kingsey

When did noble hierach become so high in price ?

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When the mana dork of choice in modern got banned

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Originally Posted by Megadeus

When the mana dork of choice in modern got banned

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yeah but noble is bant... does anyone play bant anymore?

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Originally Posted by apple713

yeah but noble is bant... does anyone play bant anymore?

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Pod decks, not really Bant decks.

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Originally Posted by apple713

I was all for fae when i first heard blossom unbanned. Then i thought about it.... faeries were amazing because their competition wasn't much. I think you had kith kin and makeshift mannequin decks.

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There was also Ramp with Cloudthresher and Lark and a little bit of Merfolk. I remember because I dropped from my National Qualifier at 3-0 (playing Faeries) to play in a 12-man Legacy event (playing Enchantress) that won me a Grandmother Sengir

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Originally Posted by Julian23

There was also Ramp with Cloudthresher and Lark and a little bit of Merfolk. I remember because I dropped from my National Qualifier at 3-0 (playing Faeries) to play in a 12-man Legacy event (playing Enchantress) that won me a Grandmother Sengir

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You won Grandmother Sengir? :cry:

increasingly Wizards are going to have to be careful about who knows about changes to the banned and restricted list - there is obviously a lot of money to be made

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Originally Posted by Julian23

There was also Ramp with Cloudthresher and Lark and a little bit of Merfolk. I remember because I dropped from my National Qualifier at 3-0 (playing Faeries) to play in a 12-man Legacy event (playing Enchantress) that won me a Grandmother Sengir

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If that was a prize I would concede just to piss my opponent off for having to take it.

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Originally Posted by Dan Turner

If that was a prize I would concede just to piss my opponent off for having to take it.

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Nah. I'd frame that shit

Any moderately good modern rare or mythic that didn't get Modern Masterbated is pretty volatile. Hierarch was obviously going to skyrocket after the banning of the best mana dork, it has only a judge foil ... it's played in Vintage, Legacy and Modern, has casual appeal, etc..

If you didn't own four and never picked them up in the last 2 years you have nobody to blame but Obama. Without DRS around to hold Snapcaster in check it'll be $30+ in no time as well ...

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Originally Posted by nedleeds

Any moderately good modern rare or mythic that didn't get Modern Masterbated is pretty volatile. Hierarch was obviously going to skyrocket after the banning of the best mana dork, it has only a judge foil ... it's played in Vintage, Legacy and Modern, has casual appeal, etc..

If you didn't own four and never picked them up in the last 2 years you have nobody to blame but Obama. Without DRS around to hold Snapcaster in check it'll be $30+ in no time as well ...

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Agreed. I plan on picking up my set of Snaps this weekend in Nashville.

another card that was being held back by the omnipresent shaman is Vengevine ... it's also a Mythic from an insanely hard to find set ...

Hopefully I didn't get ripped by the random Canadian MOTL guy for my Vengevines... The rippers are always fucking Canadian.

I find it quite hilarious that the MOTL and High End magic group are both flooded with Faerie cards that have spiked. And also everyone and their mother is trying to buy foil deathrites at 40 dollar now.

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Originally Posted by Megadeus

Hopefully I didn't get ripped by the random Canadian MOTL guy for my Vengevines... The rippers are always fucking Canadian.

I find it quite hilarious that the MOTL and High End magic group are both flooded with Faerie cards that have spiked. And also everyone and their mother is trying to buy foil deathrites at 40 dollar now.

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Shoot me his details and I'm happy to let you know if it's safe.

High-end Magic group is a waste of fucking time. Got out of that ages ago; a bigger nonsensical circlejerk than the B/R thread.

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Originally Posted by mini1337s

Shoot me his details and I'm happy to let you know if it's safe.

High-end Magic group is a waste of fucking time. Got out of that ages ago; a bigger nonsensical circlejerk than the B/R thread.

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Are there better/more convenient online communities? I am honestly curious. I don't know, and I was thinking of possibly selling a few things.

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Originally Posted by mini1337s

Shoot me his details and I'm happy to let you know if it's safe.

High-end Magic group is a waste of fucking time. Got out of that ages ago; a bigger nonsensical circlejerk than the B/R thread.

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I'll PM you his MOTL handle. To be fair, mail may be slow so it could just be that. He has good refs (hence why I was okay with sending first). Still. I almost got ripped by Strickland a couple months back on a fake profile so I am always a little hesitant.

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Originally Posted by nedleeds

another card that was being held back by the omnipresent shaman is Vengevine ... it's also a Mythic from an insanely hard to find set ...

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Lotus Cobra could fill some of the gap by DRS, mythic mana accel guy. Although it was from a very opened set, unlike Vengevine.

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Originally Posted by danyul

Are there better/more convenient online communities? I am honestly curious. I don't know, and I was thinking of possibly selling a few things.

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Sorry for the double post, but generally it's okay to sell on MOTL as long as you make sure you get paid first.

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Originally Posted by danyul

Are there better/more convenient online communities? I am honestly curious. I don't know, and I was thinking of possibly selling a few things.

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http://forums.magictraders.com/Ultimate.cgi is my choice, but it's expected that members with low references send to high ref members before receiving payment. Lots of value hustlers.
High End Magic is flaky as hell and people act like hotter shit than they really are. There are good members, many of whom are on this forum, but there is a TON of chaff that commit to a trade/sale and never fall through.
I've heard ok things about Pucatrade, but never tried it out. Same with Deckbox, but I can't imagine it's much different than Magic Online Traders.
Honestly, any online trading community has its toxic members and shitty experiences, so it really boils down to personal preference. I've got 5 digits in MOTL Buys/Sales/Trades without any notable issues (1 or 2 minor condition discrepancies, but all worked out well).

I'll look into some of those other options. The FB group is fun for browsing but I too have found it somewhat impractical for transactions over $100. It just feels too insecure. Thanks for the tips.

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Originally Posted by ahg113

Lotus Cobra could fill some of the gap by DRS, mythic mana accel guy. Although it was from a very opened set, unlike Vengevine.

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Yeah, that's a good call. It's pretty explosive with fetchlands. I've been looking for Russian Cobra 3 and 4 for fucking ever.

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Originally Posted by mini1337s

High-end Magic group is a waste of fucking time. Got out of that ages ago; a bigger nonsensical circlejerk than the B/R thread.

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it's fucking terrible
ebay is still the best option for pimp items - it takes a long time but you can eventually get everything you want at the best prices

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Originally Posted by mini1337s

Shoot me his details and I'm happy to let you know if it's safe.

High-end Magic group is a waste of fucking time. Got out of that ages ago; a bigger nonsensical circlejerk than the B/R thread.

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I though that fb group would be usefull but its like all the seller have never been to ebay and are asking premiums. The other half of the posts arny very high end. Foil blood moons.... There are non foil standard cards worth more

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Originally Posted by apple713

I though that fb group would be usefull but its like all the seller have never been to ebay and are asking premiums. The other half of the posts arny very high end. Foil blood moons.... There are non foil standard cards worth more

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Yeah half the people in there just want retarded prices. Guy offered me 130 on Gaea's Cradle... As if I can't get it at my LGS for that price.

What the hell has happened to Noble Hierarch?

It's obviously related to the Modern Banned List changes, but do people except more Zoo now or what's the reason?

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Originally Posted by Barook

What the hell has happened to Noble Hierarch?

It's obviously related to the Modern Banned List changes, but do people except more Zoo now or what's the reason?

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Well, DRS is gone, so now this is the premier Mana Dork. Lots of spec too, but generally just the DRS replacement.

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Originally Posted by Barook

What the hell has happened to Noble Hierarch?

It's obviously related to the Modern Banned List changes, but do people except more Zoo now or what's the reason?

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Zoo, maybe. I suspect it's also because Pod is looking really, really well positioned right now.

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Originally Posted by Arsenal

Zoo, maybe. I suspect it's also because Pod is looking really, really well positioned right now.

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It's probably Zoo, considering how KotR and Arid Mesa rose in price as well.

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Originally Posted by Barook

It's probably Zoo, considering how KotR and Arid Mesa rose in price as well.

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My bet is also on Big Zoo (feat. elspeth and Garruk Relentless)

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Originally Posted by Dazed

Wasteland has just doubled its price in the last month. Star City is selling it for $25. Even Troll and Toad is offering this tempest rare land for $20. This cards, if I am not committing a mistake, closed the year 2009 in a healthy 10 dollars per each.

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Now sold out at $100 - it's actually an uncommon.

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Originally Posted by jamesh

Now sold out at $100 - it's actually an uncommon.

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I blame pack to power, quietspeculation.com (Creation date: 10 Jun 2009 14:03:00 ), mystics, and the starcitygames open circuit

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Originally Posted by jamesh

Now sold out at $100 - it's actually an uncommon.

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Untill it gets a mass reprint

It will be healthy for modern