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[Official] Bitching About Prices, Buyouts and Reprints Thread
Wasteland has just doubled its price in the last month. Star City is selling it for $25. Even Troll and Toad is offering this tempest rare land for $20. This cards, if I am not committing a mistake, closed the year 2009 in a healthy 10 dollars per each.
Mox Diamond was about $28 on October or so. I selled four of them for a hundred bucks just to find out that today, stores are willing to sell them for no less than $40.
Why is this happening?
I thought this was related to the Grand Prix of Madrid. But other staples are not getting that huge impact on their price tags. Force of Will is still $35 and even dual lands are in a stable moment right now (just some minor variations on Tropical Island).
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Re: Raise, raise, raise. The price of cardboard
The two biggest decks in the SCG 5ks are Merfolk and 43 Lands / Aggro Loam, and those two cards are in them.
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43 Lands seems to be the biggest influence. It's quite good as long as Tendrils decks stay out of it's way. It explains the exorbitant price on Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale also.
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Originally Posted by
Dazed
Even Troll and Toad is offering this tempest rare land for $20.
The thing is, it's an uncommon. I really hope they reprint Wasteland if only to keep the prices affordable. Great does not equal broken, and I don't think they should foster an environment of $20+ uncommons. Hell, Birds of Paradise used to be worth something when I first started playing and now it's just a $5 rare and black bordered, and all because of printing it over and over.
Anyway, how many more price threads are we going to see in 2010? :wink: :tongue:
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... Whoah, people use Mox Diamond in Merfolk now?
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It has alot to do with the GPs coming up. Alot of players that are going to go to them aren't Legacy players. So they will have to pick up cards to play the "hot decks". So SCG and the like can't really get away with charging a stupid amount for LoA.
Also Wasteland is played in alot of other decks in Legacy as well. As for Tabernacle and Mox Diamond, there isn't alot those cards out there. The Stores know that, that's why they offer a big amount for them and sell for alot also.
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Originally Posted by
Brushwagg
It has alot to do with the GPs coming up. Alot of players that are going to go to them aren't Legacy players. So they will have to pick up cards to play the "hot decks". So SCG and the like can't really get away with charging a stupid amount for LoA.
Also Wasteland is played in alot of other decks in Legacy as well. As for Tabernacle and Mox Diamond, there isn't alot those cards out there. The Stores know that, that's why they offer a big amount for them and sell for alot also.
Waste also seems to party all day in slower Vintage metas too.
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Loyal Retainers also saw a rise in price, before Iona was printed it was an obscure rare uncommon, but now I don't see any on Ebay and english ones are up to 95 Euro on Magickartenmarkt.
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Loyal Retainers also saw a rise in price, before Iona was printed it was an obscure rare uncommon, but now I don't see any on Ebay and english ones are up to 95 Euro on Magickartenmarkt.
Don't forget Loyal Retainers was only printed in Portal 3 Kingdoms, which is very hard to find and the price will continue to rise because of that.
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I'm still not sure if I should pick up the other 3 japanese for a reasonable price or wait if english ones come down a bit.
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we need a from the vault: rare uncommons
Loyal retainer
wasteland
force of will
reset
pretty sure there are tons of others
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Goglin Lackey
Aether Vial
Imperial Recruiter
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I'm still not sure if I should pick up the other 3 japanese for a reasonable price or wait if english ones come down a bit.
That depends. Are you going to turn around and sell them or use them? If your going to try to sell, the price might go up, you just need to find a buyer.
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I'd use them for play, but the option of an increase an value might be a nice bonus. I already have one for Survival/Iona-action, but I plan on building the I will survive deck and I don't really want to pay a huge sum on 3 Retainers cause I missed the trend.
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Originally Posted by
Magic Fanatic
we need a from the vault: rare uncommons
Loyal retainer
wasteland
force of will
reset
pretty sure there are tons of others
Don't forget Sea Drake!
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yeah moat was $80 6 months ago and now is $150
tabernacle was $100 and is now $200+
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Thee Kingdoms cards will not go down. I can guarantee that. They are silly rare to try and collect for a set and if it's actually a playable card it will do nothing but go up unless a card is printed that outdates it (and might not even then) or is a reprint.
Even the worst cards of that set demand a hefty tag.
It was the price of Cabal Therapy that had my interest. Foil ones are starting to get silly.
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dahcmai
It was the price of Cabal Therapy that had my interest. Foil ones are starting to get silly.
Where are you seeing this? Foil ones appear to be around $10 still.
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I think that is what he is talking about, I got my foil fnm ones for 5 when bloodghast first came out.
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SlopeeJ
I think that is what he is talking about, I got my foil fnm ones for 5 when bloodghast first came out.
That's about how much the FNM ones are still going for, even on SCG. The regular foil ones have been $10 for ages.
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How much is loyal retainers at? I swear it was at 40 a week ago.
Isn't that only used in bant survival anyway?
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On mkm there are 2 right now
Japanese for 55 bucks
and English for 170.
I havent seen any on ebay.
Just picked up 3 for 55 a piece, I checked over the last few weeks and nerarly every single one in stock got bought.
Maybe I keep one and resell the other two when I can get even.
It was used exclusively in BantSur, but some "normal" Survivals seem to apply the tech as well.
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The last available one just broke 280 Euros.
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I don't think thats gonna sell, srsly, no way this thing is worth 3 recruiters.
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I can't get you guys on complaining about this. If you're buying from privates, you will always find a way to pay cards for the right cost. It's obvious that Starcitygames and such will carry on lifting the prices, as long as there are dumb people who get out their credit card of the pocket instead of moving ass a bit and searching at local tourneys, with the consequences of paying twice the right price of a card.
I can buy a set of Wasteland for 35 euros, and this is from quite 2 years. Tabernacle is still at 60 euros; Force are set cold on 75 euros from 2 years. And I live in Italy, which is the country of thiefs, heck, you can see it even from the government!
Seriously, avoid SCG and get some contacts with the right people. There are tons of possibilities to get cards without being ass-raped, even nowadays.
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Just to throw this out there that Dreamhalls and Show and Tell are both on the rise. I looked on E-bay for shits and both are around 50 for a play set.
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Those prices will not last long Piceli, if indeed they exist.
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Julian23
The last available one just broke 280 Euros.
Really. I just bought mine today for USD39.99 on CardKingdom. :eyebrow:
Edit: Looks like I got there just in time. They're all gone now.
I'm not understanding the sudden, huge price-jump on this guy honestly. He's used as a 1-of in an archetype that isn't extremely popular.
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I bought 4 show and tells for 30 shipped today on ebay. Not 50 yet.
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I gave my play-set of Japanese show and tells away to a friend for his birthday last month because they was a card he wanted and they was cheap at the time :mad:
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As long as we're complaining about card prices, Elspeth has been spiralling upwards lately as well. She was holding steady at $20-25 for a long time, but apparently Extended finally realized she was good, and now it's ~$35, with some sellers pushing it towards 40.
Didn't stop me from buying two just now, because, well, I need them for the deck I want to play. :( Obviously that's the mentality that pushes card prices up. In short it's never been a better time to already own expensive cards.
Also, there's a neat website called Black Lotus Project that tracks card prices over time using MOTL data.
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abugames still has loyal retainers at $40. not many left but they are still in stock.
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MurA33
abugames still has loyal retainers at $40. not many left but they are still in stock.
Asian one going for 35, no English though.
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MurA33
abugames still has loyal retainers at $40. not many left but they are still in stock.
Not anymore! Why do I get the feeling one person is buying them all? There's really no use for more than one of them in any deck, so it doesn't make sense for them to start disappearing from the market so rapidly like this.
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Phoenix Ignition
Asian one going for 35, no English though.
Wow, I literally just bought one for $20 two weeks ago.
Also, I noticed that SCG doubled their price for Dream Halls this past week from $4.99 to $9.99. A set that I was watching on Ebay just topped $60 with over two days left :rolleyes:.
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ITT: Cards used in fringe decks inexplicably rise to astronomical prices!
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show and tell / dream halls.dec is crap, i hope everyone plays it.
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MOTL still has FOW for $25ish
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Bought English Loyal Retainers for 25 Euro two weaks ago. This week I bought ELEVEN Dream Halls from the local store for 2 Euro each and put them on magickartenmarkt for 7 each. I was sold out after two hours. Seems fair.
