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I sure can't wait for the next hyper-pushed set sellers that are going to break every format. :rolleyes:
Don't worry, the bean counters at Hasbro will see declining sales and order The Coward Maro to change course and then we'll have sets of unplayable but the covid sets will still be playable but unopened and we'll be paying 40 bucks for this sets Misha's bauble/unezawa's jitteQuote:
Originally Posted by Barook
My "uncle at Nintendo" resources are telling me that were getting a Smother that hits Planeswalkers too.
Abrupt Decay and Trophy couldn't make a dent into Oko usage. I doubt that a more narrow card with a slightly easier mana cost would help alot, considering decks right now could easily run those BG cards with little punishment due to Astrolabe.Quote:
Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit
And outside of Teferi, who is going to rotate soon anyway, what Standard-legal PWs could it hit that mattered?
Elderspell is basically unplayable so even smother for walkers is probably bad. You'd need to tack on some advantage like B1, kill creature or Walker with 4 CMC or less, if walker killed this way draw a card. Or something like that. Otherwise it's just not flexible enough and not enough upside
Exactly my thoughts. Walkers can instantly create an advantage nowadays - so even if you remove them, you fall behind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Megadeus
Walkers continue to be a huge mistake
I think 'Walkers are fine in theory, it's just they've pushed so many of them well past the threshold for balance. If they highest end of 'Walker power was something like the six mana Sorin or OG Elspeth or Garruk, they'd be fine. But the power level is so high that it's just kind of a joke now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Humphrey
Walkers would be okayish if they costed mana to activate. The whole mechanic is just antimagic
Agreed, creatures shouldn't need to compete with walkers.
They don't really, walkers are clearly better by and large. Literally the only thing creatures have going for them is some lower CMC's and a bigger selection to choose from.Quote:
Originally Posted by mistercakes
Walkers are enchantments on crack with upkeep costs of +life. And protection of 14yrs of magic
What if a creature got to etb each turn, or risk not etb next turn to etb more powerfully this turn.
Oh and if it etbs enough you just win the game.
But they were introduced in, what? Lorwyn and yet dreadbore wasn't printed until RTR five years later.
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Originally Posted by ahg113
Would be mythic then though
Even then, most Walkers instantly generate CA once they ETB and you can't prevent that aside from countering them (or the activated ability). Since the trend is towards more cheaper, aggressively costed Walkers (like W&6 or Oko), there's even little to no real tempo advantage in killing them.Quote:
Originally Posted by ahg113
The Elderspell had the right idea, but the execution was ass, as it was too slow and too narrow. Until we get removal that can overcome that card disadvantage and isn't extremely slow and narrow, nothing is going to change.
I disagree on the premise that an opponent playing a walker and getting a chance to use a loyalty ability isn't the problem if an instant can kill it in response. This turns a PW into an effective sorcery, or that creature that ETB then dies. The advantage in killing the PW is the stopping of continued CA. I have no problem with someone casting a Karn as a 4 mana generic wish, or an Oko to nerf a creature/create a food token.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
Walkers should all have summoning sickness. It’s the least they could do since their abilities don’t cost mana.
They do and anyone who's played a Gideon can tell youQuote:
Originally Posted by Fox
I think you know what I mean ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit
In seriousnes finding a way to respond to loyalty +/- instead of making it the cost would go a long way to "fixing" them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
Planeswalkers with flash...
2UU
Flash
+1: Look at the top two cards of your library. Put one of them into your hand and the other on the bottom of your library.
-1: Exile target permanent you control. Return that card to the battlefield under its owner’s control at the beginning of the next end step.
-5: Take an extra turn after this one.
Starting Loyalty: 3
https://mtgazone.com/core-set-2021-l...s-and-teasers/
This the new Teferi? A little tone deaf to give the black guy sleight of hand..Quote:
Originally Posted by jmlima
I wouldn't buy that card as real just yet, nothing confirms it and it looks kind of fake honestly.
But it isn't Sleight of Hand - it's an instant speed Careful Study, but only half as effective. Take that as you will...Quote:
Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit
I also wonder if there's a way to break Vito. The effect is two mana cheaper than normally. It boosts drain effects and lifegain cards quite a bit.
Edit: I guess Martyr of Sands could be quite the nuke with it.
...Are we talking about the same card? I think you misread what I quoted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
The card has flash, but having flash won't let you activate the abilities at instant speed. Just put it in play.
And the "look at two, put one into hand one on the bottom" Is the exact effect on sleight of hand. It draws zero cards and discards zero (Careful study is 2 and 2)
https://i.imgur.com/Cgj5uY6.jpg
Looks like a sure EDH hit though.
Seems good at stopping aggressive decks, but at 4 mana, who would play it in Eternal formats?Quote:
Originally Posted by H
No one, I think the card is pretty much a bust. I find it hard to believe it would see play in any format, except maybe Standard at best. However, I guess maybe you could fit in EDH somehow?Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
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Originally Posted by H
What about storm?
So this is clearly a callback to Mangara of Corondor, but I don't think I've ever seen a callback card so unrelated to what it's calling back to.Quote:
Originally Posted by H
That Teferi is the most broken thing I've ever seen. And it's blue... yeah, gotta be real.
EDIT: not like, most broken card in history, but it's pretty unbelievably stupid. I cannot overstate how much better control deck wincons are with Flash. If this is real, I wonder if it was the final nail in the coffin of Agent of Treachery.
They must have changed the article. Here's what it says now:Quote:
Originally Posted by jmlima
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...d81410e6ca.jpg
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I dunno about that one, the only mechanic I can think of that's less likely to come back than Phasing is Banding. Both are rules nightmares.Quote:
Originally Posted by ronco
I think phasing is likely to come back, being og teferis signature move.
this teferi is just another fake though.
its interesting both fakes have the extra turn ultimate.
Ruby Storm players all have a chubby right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by H
5 mana to do nothing for a turn. Best case following turn scenario is casting seething song or manamorphose, no other effect after that?
You also get the same trigger for sorcery spell. (didn't notice that at first glance). Let's call it fringe playable for now.
Hard pass until proven otherwise. Would love to be though!