Innistrad Midnight Hunt: Wolf's is back baby. Its good again. Awoouu! (werewolf Howl)

In the Grim Dark Future there is only hype.
That's right, AFR released two weeks ago and Jumpstart Horizons, the Arena-only mega set was spoiled Monday, which means it's time to already forget everything and move on. Here comes the first of two rapid-fire Innistrad sets. The first one, Midnight Hunt is supposed to focus on werewolves and Crimson Vow will be focusing on vampires. So join me in spoiling some werewolves:
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Enough spells. Let's see them werewolves!
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Werewolf Planeswalker?
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That's right the first preview had no werewolves are you shocked?
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Oh, but there are some sweet gothic lands:
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https://mythicspoiler.com/mid/cards/day.jpg
https://mythicspoiler.com/mid/cards/night.jpg

The lands are ok.

Another set already though. HGeeze.

I've realized I mostly look forward to new sets for these thread titles.

Sometimes the cards are neat too...

He, champion of the perished is not that bad. It's like champion of the parish which was played in modern... Not sure it will put zombies in a better tier of decks :)

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Originally Posted by Tylert

He, champion of the perished is not that bad. It's like champion of the parish which was played in modern... Not sure it will put zombies in a better tier of decks :)

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As a modern zombies enthusiast it's weird. It's clearly an aggressive one drop but zombies had been cutting those in favor of more grindy elements. Zombies would have loved this before goblin bombardment, and before soul diviner

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Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit

As a modern zombies enthusiast it's weird. It's clearly an aggressive one drop but zombies had been cutting those in favor of more grindy elements. Zombies would have loved this before goblin bombardment, and before soul diviner

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In legacy you have access to Phyrexian Altar which by can go infinite with Gravecrawler.
I think by now there are enough things to win with that in a zombie framework.

What's the lore behind "Wrenn and Number"? Because that looks silly.

That said, waiting for the obligatory new Thalia. Question is if she's in the first or second Innistrad set.

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Originally Posted by Barook

What's the lore behind "Wrenn and Number"? Because that looks silly.

That said, waiting for the obligatory new Thalia. Question is if she's in the first or second Innistrad set.

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I think they said Wren has like a tree symbiote on every plane, but yeah just numbering them seems lame.

Thalia is probably in both just for $$$.

If it were me (and it's not. Mark Rosewater is a coward) I would play up the wedding theme of crimson vow by making it have Kamigawa level of legendaries

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Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit

If it were me (and it's not. Mark Rosewater is a coward) I would play up the wedding theme of crimson vow by making it have Kamigawa level of legendaries

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Even if only for Commander, I think that could be really cool, though I feel like it's hard to get invested in MtG characters since they all turned into Superman. I guess I'm holding out hope for a return to the deep-story days.

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Even if only for Commander, I think that could be really cool, though I feel like it's hard to get invested in MtG characters since they all turned into Superman. I guess I'm holding out hope for a return to the deep-story days.

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I wouldn't be surprised if they stole the script of that GoT episode where everyone gets murdered at a wedding.
No idea about the details since I never got into GoT.

My issue with the story is that since over a decade (man I feel old), they had little to no continuity so it was pointless to get invested into any character.
Most of the planeswalkers were introduced first as card before they got any story and even then it sucked.
The multiverse power ranger arc was also bad.
They also lack interesting villains.
Yawgmoth/Phyrexia was threatening because they covered multiple planes and were really interesting thematically.
Bolas sucked because his new design was awful and he did too much mustache twirling, not to mention how quickly he was done away with.
The Eldrazi were interesting but were in the end just mindless and less gruesome phyrexians.
I'm interested to see how they'll screw up New Phyrexia since it was already pretty boring since it was just a copypasta of existing concepts.
It just doesn't pack a punch like in the past without Yawgmoth, the faceless, sinister, scheming god.

In recent years they revisit a lot of established worlds which is in principle fine.
However it rarely feels like a continuation, more like a rehash of something they know will sell.
Strangely, it seems like the fans are writing the story and WotC is producing the fan fiction.

At least they may develop some themes more since they have 2 sets in the same setting again.
Since they booted any block structure it has been such a mess of mechanics and themes and nothing is fleshed out.

I almost got excited about the block until I realized I misheard and it wasn't called "Kithkin Vow". God dammit when do I get more of those loveable little scamps?

Ah hoooooo, werewolves of Innistrad

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I almost got excited about the block until I realized I misheard and it wasn't called "Kithkin Vow". God dammit when do I get more of those loveable little scamps?

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"Lorwyn: Second Breakfast". Coming Fall 2022! Or maybe Kithkin will be errata'd to be Hobbits when the LoTR set comes out.

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Originally Posted by PirateKing

I've realized I mostly look forward to new sets for these thread titles.

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It's my favorite time of spoiler season since I spread the rest of it moping about how the meta will shift and the game will march forward and away from me, the old timer.

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Originally Posted by the Thin White Duke

"Lorwyn: Second Breakfast". Coming Fall 2022! Or maybe Kithkin will be errata'd to be Hobbits when the LoTR set comes out.

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Plot twist: in the 2nd Innistrad set the plane gets taken over by Megatron and actual transformers.

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Originally Posted by Zoid

Plot twist: in the 2nd Innistrad set the plane gets taken over by Megatron and actual transformers.

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You mean Ghost in the Shell: Kamigawa prefecture.

What we really need here is for Disney to start flexing on Hasbro to release all kinds of crossover IP.

"During my first main, add :g: equal to Te Fiti's toughness. I cast Stormbreaker, equipping Mike Wazowski. I'll declare attacks now; I'll attack with Wazowski, Gwen Stacy, and Nien Nunb, and I'll tap Han Solo to give them all first strike. Blocks?"

I for one can't wait to see how MtG: GURPS develops over the next few years. Or should I say Generic Universal Trading Card Game System, GUTCGS? Doesn't really roll of the tongue, does it?

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Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit

You mean Ghost in the Shell: Kamigawa prefecture.

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No, that is Cyberpunk:Ghost Division which tries to be even worse the 2077.
I can see them achieving that.
Would also be in line with the original Kamigawa block.

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Originally Posted by Zoid

No, that is Cyberpunk:Ghost Division which tries to be even worse the 2077.
I can see them achieving that.
Would also be in line with the original Kamigawa block.

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c'mon, we KNOW there will be cyber-ninjas! the kids, they like the cyber, the like the ninjas! literally can't go tits up!

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Originally Posted by the Thin White Duke

"Lorwyn: Second Breakfast". Coming Fall 2022! Or maybe Kithkin will be errata'd to be Hobbits when the LoTR set comes out.

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No no, we must errata Halflings to be Kithkin. I don't play fucking Mirrorweave Hobbitses

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c'mon, we KNOW there will be cyber-ninjas! the kids, they like the cyber, the like the ninjas! literally can't go tits up!

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They HACK and SLASH.
Literally can't go wrong with that.

Can't wait for the Kami of Virtual Adult Entertainment :tongue:

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No no, we must errata Halflings to be Kithkin. I don't play fucking Mirrorweave Hobbitses

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They only get the Kami of Microwaves.

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Originally Posted by Zoid

No, that is Cyberpunk:Ghost Division which tries to be even worse the 2077.
I can see them achieving that.
Would also be in line with the original Kamigawa block.

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Lol Cyberpunk is not nearly old enough and far enough out of the public consciousness for it to get a crossover.
Gen x properties only, and Fortnite because that's what the Hasbro ceo grandson plays

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Lol Cyberpunk is not nearly old enough and far enough out of the public consciousness for it to get a crossover.
Gen x properties only, and Fortnite because that's what the Hasbro ceo grandson plays

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Cyberpunk got started in the late seventies and early eighties--totes X territory.

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Cyberpunk got started in the late seventies and early eighties--totes X territory.

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Cyberpunk 2077 is a game, cyberpunk the asthetic is from the 80s which is why we're getting that and not Cyberpunk 2077

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Lol Cyberpunk is not nearly old enough and far enough out of the public consciousness for it to get a crossover.
Gen x properties only, and Fortnite because that's what the Hasbro ceo grandson plays

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Just to inform you: Cyberpunk is a genre not just a rushed mess of a video game.

Ninja'd.

Given that they will return to butcher the Brother's War next year, a lot of steam punk is to be expected.

Any good suggestions for a KD/A style virtual MTG band to embarrass the brand even further?
How about the female planeswalkers twerking in the back and Jace rapping about tapping ass?
Probably not woke enough though.

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Originally Posted by Zoid

Just to inform you: Cyberpunk is a genre not just a rushed mess of a video game.

Ninja'd.

Given that they will return to butcher the Brother's War next year, a lot of steam punk is to be expected.

Any good suggestions for a KD/A style virtual MTG band to embarrass the brand even further?
How about the female planeswalkers twerking in the back and Jace rapping about tapping ass?
Probably not woke enough though.

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have jace rap about how he and all the bitches he taps sign mutual consent forms

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This is how the new werewolves transform. I don't think this will result in erata because being able to just cast mayor face down seems too good.
The way it works is that day/night is a global thing like if there's a monarch or not. Cards will have a daybound/nightbound side and if it's night then when the object enters it will enter on it's night side. Like old warewolves to make it night, don't cast anything. To make it day, cast two spells.

This seems more like the way it should have worked the first time around tbh, I was always let down that they didn't have Day and Night be an actual game state.

They'd never errata the old ones. It seems weird to have a bunch of werewolves that transform under different circumstances, but then again a lot of transform cards have different triggers so it's not the most inconsistent thing this game has ever done. I think it's pretty cool.

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Seems a bit needlessly complicated but nowadays everything goes for fLaVoR.

Bending back when?

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Interesting design, although that "lose the game" thing is kinda odd. Is it there to prevent any shenanigans by forcing other ways to transform it, like that old green spell that could transform (and thus, kill) flipwalkers?

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Interesting design, although that "lose the game" thing is kinda odd. Is it there to prevent any shenanigans by forcing other ways to transform it, like that old green spell that could transform (and thus, kill) flipwalkers?

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Isn't this a catch to allow removing the angel in response to the ability?
In that case it's dead and can't transform thus you die.

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Interesting design, although that "lose the game" thing is kinda odd. Is it there to prevent any shenanigans by forcing other ways to transform it, like that old green spell that could transform (and thus, kill) flipwalkers?

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I thought it was so token copies aren't viable. Someone had some deck that made many copies and without the extra condition you'd never lose from damage. But now the token dies and doesn't transform, so you can't flood out some cheaty engine

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Interesting design, although that "lose the game" thing is kinda odd. Is it there to prevent any shenanigans by forcing other ways to transform it, like that old green spell that could transform (and thus, kill) flipwalkers?

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Clones can't transform. So if you copied the creature it would be a Worship that could attack.

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To nobodies' surprise, Flashback is coming back.

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Originally Posted by Barook

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To nobodies' surprise, Flashback is coming back.

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if you're surprised you need to read the OP.

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To nobodies' surprise, Flashback is coming back.

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There's a fringe "copy tasha's hideous laughter" deck in std 2022 already. this is going to push it hard. it's the least interactive least fun thing to play against ever.

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Can maybe do some tricky things with Vial.

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This guy seems pretty stronk.

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Obligatory mediocre duals.
'member the days when we didn't have like 5 duals every set?