LOTR Tales from Middle Earth: Our Burden To Bear Is a Purple Gandalf the Gray

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I like the idea of the basic lands, but the execution in the form of "baby's first use of the crop tool" is a disappointment on what I expect will be a deep level.

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Originally Posted by PirateKing

I like the idea of the basic lands, but the execution in the form of "baby's first use of the crop tool" is a disappointment on what I expect will be a deep level.

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I've felt this way about most full arts as they added bigger bars around the names, and now on basics the text too.

That said the planes is really good compared to the other 4.

Not that it's likely to matter much in legacy, but the ring can get out of hand in combination with Mind over matter. Maybe there's some weird possibility with Dross Scorpion,Clock of Omens or Paradox Engine.

I really liked the Shire plains, and Gray Havens Island is fine, but the rest are kind of dumb.

Also the Ring not being an equipment that gives equipped creature some form of invisibility is obviously stupid

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Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin

I really liked the Shire plains, and Gray Havens Island is fine, but the rest are kind of dumb.

Also the Ring not being an equipment that gives equipped creature some form of invisibility is obviously stupid

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A planeswalker choosing to give the ring to some rando they summoned instead of keeping it themselves is stupid.

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Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit

A planeswalker choosing to give the ring to some rando they summoned instead of keeping it themselves is stupid.

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Equip target player, hobbit, kithkin, gnome or other smallish non-hobbit hobbit race.

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Originally Posted by Zoid

Equip target player, hobbit, kithkin, gnome or other smallish non-hobbit hobbit race.

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Again, why are you giving anyone but yourself the ring?

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Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit

Again, why are you giving anyone but yourself the ring?

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To tank the curse and wrath of Sauron obviously.

They could have just planeswalked to the mountain is a whole new meme level.

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Originally Posted by Zoid

To tank the curse and wrath of Sauron obviously.

They could have just planeswalked to the mountain is a whole new meme level.

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I get the feeling you didn't read the book

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Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit

I get the feeling you didn't read the book

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Only the book on shitposting :)

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Originally Posted by Zoid

Only the book on shitposting :)

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I always forget that dril wrote a book.

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Originally Posted by PirateKing

I like the idea of the basic lands, but the execution in the form of "baby's first use of the crop tool" is a disappointment on what I expect will be a deep level.

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Mordor is anything but a swamp.

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Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit

A planeswalker choosing to give the ring to some rando they summoned instead of keeping it themselves is stupid.

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Ignoring that planeswalkers aren’t a thing in Middle Earth, if the idea is that the player is supposed to be wearing the ring then it should make them invisible. That’s still overthinking it, though.

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Originally Posted by jmlima

Mordor is anything but a swamp.

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Yeah that’s a weird choice if Wizards wants to keep insisting black isn’t the evil color

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Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin

Yeah that’s a weird choice if Wizards wants to keep insisting black isn’t the evil color

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Well yeah, Mordor isn't an evil place, Sauron and Morgoth before him just had... a different point of view, is all.
The whole thing just gets blown out of proportion really

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Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin

Ignoring that planeswalkers aren’t a thing in Middle Earth,

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Wait for more spoilers

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if the idea is that the player is supposed to be wearing the ring then it should make them invisible. That’s still overthinking it, though.

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Invisible, like not being able to be Damaged, Enchanted, Blocked, or Targeted by anything when you put it on?

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Originally Posted by PirateKing

Well yeah, Mordor isn't an evil place, Sauron and Morgoth before him just had... a different point of view, is all.
The whole thing just gets blown out of proportion really

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There was this old Soviet retelling of LOTR from the Mordorian prospective where everything we know about middle earth is propaganda spread by the other countries and that Mordor was just mechanizing or soemthing. I don't know I didn't fully read it.

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Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit

There was this old Soviet retelling of LOTR from the Mordorian prospective where everything we know about middle earth is propaganda spread by the other countries and that Mordor was just mechanizing or soemthing. I don't know I didn't fully read it.

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There's this classic from The Guardian.

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http://mythicspoiler.com/ltr/cards/reprieve.jpg

Better, white Remand. Yep.

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Originally Posted by Barook

http://mythicspoiler.com/ltr/cards/reprieve.jpg

Better, white Remand. Yep.

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Based af, I've always felt like Remand would have made more sense in White

Granted it probably won't actually do anything, but like... hooray it exists

I'm going to stick it on an Isochron Scepter, not even Abrupt Decay can stop me now!

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Originally Posted by PirateKing

I'm going to stick it on an Isochron Scepter, not even Abrupt Decay can stop me now!

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Curses! The dreaded second decay that was actually the first decay

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Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit

Wait for more spoilers

Invisible, like not being able to be Damaged, Enchanted, Blocked, or Targeted by anything when you put it on?

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For one turn?

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Originally Posted by Barook

http://mythicspoiler.com/ltr/cards/reprieve.jpg

Better, white Remand. Yep.

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This does make me happy

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Originally Posted by Lava Snacks

There's this classic from The Guardian.

https://i.imgur.com/1xQh8qW.jpg

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More human nations are allied with Sauron than oppose him. Largely because Gondor was an oppressive imperialistic power before their decline, as evidenced by helping the Rohirrim commit genocide on the Dunlendings and Druedain and steal their land.

Would Reprieve be worth it in a storm deck to recast the Grapeshot or something? Or is it generally just easier to build storm count instead of working in the extra mana?

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Originally Posted by Whoshim

Would Reprieve be worth it in a storm deck to recast the Grapeshot or something? Or is it generally just easier to build storm count instead of working in the extra mana?

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When was the last time you have seen Remand in storm?

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Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin

For one turn?

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Correct, you shouldn't wear it for very long.
WOTC nanny state protects planeswalkers.

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Originally Posted by Zoid

When was the last time you have seen Remand in storm?

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In modern? The answer is the last time I saw storm, a handful of months before MH2
In Legacy? I don't think ever.

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Originally Posted by PirateKing

Well yeah, Mordor isn't an evil place, Sauron and Morgoth before him just had... a different point of view, is all.
The whole thing just gets blown out of proportion really

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Indeed, as this book correctly advocates, the all orcs and Sauron thing are fantasy written by the victors to demonize their opponents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Ringbearer

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Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit

In modern? The answer is the last time I saw storm, a handful of months before MH2
In Legacy? I don't think ever.

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IIRC Remand was very occasionally played in High Tide decks back in the stone age.

I do think that one of the issues with color balance is that blue has way too much control over the stack relative to the other colors, and that I like seeing stuff like reprieve that pushes against that.

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Originally Posted by rufus

IIRC Remand was very occasionally played in High Tide decks back in the stone age.

I do think that one of the issues with color balance is that blue has way too much control over the stack relative to the other colors, and that I like seeing stuff like reprieve that pushes against that.

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But isn't this going to be essentially used in blue based decks?

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Originally Posted by jmlima

Indeed, as this book correctly advocates, the all orcs and Sauron thing are fantasy written by the victors to demonize their opponents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Ringbearer

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That's the one I was talking about!

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Originally Posted by rufus

IIRC Remand was very occasionally played in High Tide decks back in the stone age.

I do think that one of the issues with color balance is that blue has way too much control over the stack relative to the other colors, and that I like seeing stuff like reprieve that pushes against that.

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I used to play it in Spring Tide lmao, it felt good at the time. Sometimes it was a counter, sometimes it let you go Brain Freeze into Remand into Brain Freeze if you wanted to go off with a lower Storm count... I played around Gaea's Blessing with it once, I felt pretty okay about that

I think the goal is that, say, black/white decks could have stack interaction that feels black/white, just like blue and green get creature removal like Prey Upon and Unsummon.

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Originally Posted by Zoid

When was the last time you have seen Remand in storm?

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2008 roughly

So like, fair enough

It has always been very dumb that only one color can meaningfully interact with the stack so the more they change that the better

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Originally Posted by jmlima

But isn't this going to be essentially used in blue based decks?

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No, you do have the exact same card in blue (better for manabase and FoW), which so little play.

It could offer some nonU decks stack interactions. The trouble is to have a non U deck that do not want to tap out on its turn. That would require more/better instant that bring threats. Even a card like collected company (if it were better) is counterproductive, as it pushes you to want creatures in your deck (tap out during your turn).
The closest I could think of strategy wise would the old astral drift, which definitely does not want this kind of card.

The issue is you want redundancy with counters, all the more so with a short term counter, so the card by itself won't likely see much Legacy play, but if it signals a widening of counterspells into white then it could have significant impact combined with other cards. Maybe.

It could also end up being a meta answer to a card like Supreme Verdict or something, I suppose.