[Tournament] $500 Cash, Pawtucket, RI 3/22/08

I saw a thread on The Mana Drain advertising a new store, and they plan on having this tournament next month:

What:
$500 CASH Legacy Tournament
Where:
Die Hard Games
1005 Main St - Suite 2230
Pawtucket, RI
When:
March 22, 2008
Registration starts at 10:00 AM, tournament will start between 11:30 - 12:00.

JUST TO BE CLEAR: THE TOURNAMENT IS ON MARCH 22

Entry Fee:
$20
DCI Santioned:
YES


Prize Structure:
1: $250
2: $125
3: $75
4: $50
5-8: TBA

There will definitely be prize support for the rest of the top 8, be it store credit or boosters. The prize money will be scaled accordingly if more than 25 people attend.

Questions? Contact the store at 401-374-0921 or post questions here

wow. Thats some prize support right there.

If it wasn't the day of the Hadley Tournament I'd be there.

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Originally Posted by JanValentine00

If it wasn't the day of the Hadley Tournament I'd be there.

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QFT

I love the posibility of tournaments in RI starting up, its prety easy to get to from Worcester.
I hope they can change the date to something other then March 8th... conflicting with the Hadley Berserk tourny would drain quite a few players from both tournaments, as some will probably prefer the cash prize, and go here, but others like me would go to hadley, cause frankly i dont realisticly expect to win the 1st place prize, so if i have a choice between a $10 entry to a tourny i alreay know, and a $20 entry to a new store, with likely similar size turnouts, i'll take the cheaper one i know.

There's also a vintage Tournament the same day at Myriad Games in New Hampshire.

This should definately be moved. Theres just to much going on that week. The week after seems fine.

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Originally Posted by JanValentine00

If it wasn't the day of the Hadley Tournament I'd be there.

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You would pass up the opportunity of $500 dollars for a Hadley tournament? I love Hadley but $500 dollars seems hard to pass up.

I'm not a big fan of a payout THAT front-loaded. You could easily split that $500 up among the T8 and still have a plenty significant prize for first.

And you can still call it a "$500 tournament" because you're still giving the $500 away (just like SCG/everyone else does).

Still, you might have a shot.

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Originally Posted by Cavius The Great

You would pass up the opportunity of $500 dollars for a Hadley tournament? I love Hadley but $500 dollars seems hard to pass up.

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$20.00 entry vs $10.00 entry. I hope all the best for these tournaments. If they grow, I will definetly try to amke it our there. IMO this should not be about compeing over who has the best Legacy tournaments. Just remember this, Kevin started the large Legacy Tournaments in MA.

I"m pretty sure there's also a GPT this day.

If the Top 8 breakdown was a little more even in terms of prizes, I would consider making the trip down to this tournament. It looks like a lot of fun, but with 1st place only getting the cash, its not worth for a lot of out of towners to make this trip down.

If you could please change the date I will do whatever I will need to so that Team Necro will be there.

Has anyone actualy talked to the owner/organizer of this thing to see if changing the date is possible?
It realy would be a shame to have this and the Hadley tourny on the same day.

It seems like either the week before (1st) or the week after (15th, though that's st patty's weekend...) would be better choices.

As far as i can tell http://www.themanadrain.com/index.ph...5295.msg492681 is the thread Jaynel is talking about on the manadrain, and in it the owner just yesterday posted that the store isnt 100% up yet, so its unlikely there has been much advertizing done for this tourny, so changing the date is hopefully not a huge deal.

If anyone in RI is able to stop by the store to atleast tell the guy opening the store to come to this forum or better yet to get him to change the date, please do. If noone volunteers to do this in person, i'm gonna call the guy and see if i can convince him over the phone.

It would be a real shame if the two tournaments conflict, drain players from eachother, and then this guy loses way too much money on the 500$ prize and decides not to host legacy tournys again.

Edit: posted this and THEN saw the link in Jaynel's opening post... skim reading FTL, but the issue of changing the date still stands.

Hey guys its Javier, I posted on the manadrain about the store and I just wanted to clarify some things that have come up.

What:
$500 CASH Legacy Tournament

Where:
Die Hard Games
1005 Main St - Suite 2230
Pawtucket, RI

When:
March 15th, 2008

Registration starts at 10:00 AM, tournament will start between 11:30 - 12:00.

Entry Fee:
$20

DCI Santioned:
YES


Prize Structure:
1-4th: $500 cash split
5-8th: TBA

There will definitely be prize support for the rest of the top 8, be it store credit or boosters. The 5-8th prize support is scaled to how many people show. If we end up with enough people to give prizes to more than just Top 8 we will definetly do so.

Also I wanted to state that all the issues we've had so far are being cleared up this week and we will be finished and open for business as of this Friday.
The store hours are as follows

Monday
1:00pm - 11:00pm

Tuesday
1:00pm - 11:00pm

Wednesday
1:00pm - 11:00pm

Thursday
1:00pm - 11:00pm

Friday
1:00pm - 12:00am

Saturday
12:00pm - 12:00am

Sunday
12:00pm - 6:00pm

On Fridays we will be having sanctioned FNM and once a month we will be hosting a Magic 500.

The rest of the schedule is still a little up in the air as far as other games go, but I'll post that up by Wednesday or Thursday latest.

I hope I was able to answer your questions

This is the kind of tournament that used to draw 128+ people regularly in NYC, although the first prize was usually a box of Legends with prize support extending out to 8th place.

It's exactly the kind of tourney that if run regularly will draw crowds after the word starts to get out.

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Originally Posted by insertnamehere

Just remember this, Kevin started the Legacy movement in MA.

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I think scrumdogg would like to have a word with you.

Also, stating that Myriad Games has a vintage tournament in every thread isn't changing anything because this is a Legacy site.

I here you. Scrum is the only reason legacy is in MA.

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Originally Posted by Ebinsugewa

I think scrumdogg would like to have a word with you.

Also, stating that Myriad Games has a vintage tournament in every thread isn't changing anything because this is a Legacy site.

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I take back my what I said, and put my foot back in my mouth. Scrummdogg is the father of Legacy, but Kevin started large Legacy tournaments in MA (Western MA in general) when the only large tournaments were Vintage.

With the date change (from what was origianaly posted in this thread), might it be a good idea to include the 3/15 date in the thread title, so that people who just skim the tourny forum know that this thing has had some significant updates?

Good idea, done.
-braves

With the new date, I will definetly try my hardest to make it to this.

This sounds awesome, it is always nice to have new places to play that support our format (that we can support back). I like being the Johnny Appleseed of Legacy, planting & supporting it wherever I go, but the format benefits from all our participation. And Legacy would not be where it is in MA without people (specifically store owners & TOs) like Kevin, he deserves much love & credit. So do stores like That's Entertainment which run weekly tournaments & support the singles for the format that T2/draft stores don't (Kevin is also amazing in this regard) & TOs like Ray Robillard who run jawdropping events that promote the format & draw in new players.

I will do what I have to , so that my crew will be there.

ITS THE 22ND not the 15th guys. The 15th is a tuesday

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Originally Posted by javiernunez

ITS THE 22ND not the 15th guys. The 15th is a tuesday

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that has to be the oddest phrase ever.... any month in which the 15th is a tuesday, the 22nd would also be a tuesday... but in march of 08, both of these days are a saturday.

wow you're right. Thats the last time I listen to my business partner. We even got into an argument over that.

So with a top 4 split, does that mean the top 4 automatically gets 125 each, or is there going to be a breakdown so the players have a choice as to whether or not they want to play it out. 250, 100, 75, 75, seems like it would be worth it for everyone who top 4's if they want to play it out. Something like that seems more fair than just forcing a 4-way split. 75 is a bit less than a dual land draft would pay to 3-4, but i think having a better first place makes up for it.

On a side note, I have no idea if I'll be coming based upon others in my area who are interested and/or work, so don't change anything on account of me, it's just my suggestion.

I'd go - but I would like clarification on the Top 8 prize support and structure - good indefinites make for good turnouts.

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Originally Posted by Ebinsugewa

Also, stating that Myriad Games has a vintage tournament in every thread isn't changing anything because this is a Legacy site.

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Yes, I realize this is a Legacy site, but as a vintage player who would also play Legacy if possible, I'm constantly frustrated by the fact that Legacy tournaments ALWAYS fall on the same days as the Mana Drain's posted vintage tournaments. Some of those vintage tourney's are posted up to three months in advance. Obviously during busy months when there are tournaments every weekend, there will be conflicts, but March has just a single Vintage tournament posted on March 8th. There were plenty of other weekends that could have supported a Legacy tournament without conflicting inbetween the two formats. And I'm not arguing that one format is better than another, it's just that I find it aggrivating that TO's don't appear to do any research at all before scheduling tournaments and it appears to me that all formats are suffering for it.

Anyway, since I'm no one of importance, all I can do is post my displeasure at not being able to participate and hope that TO's will take it into account when they plan their next event. One person won't make or break an event, but typically for each person willing to voice their complaint, there's usually 8-10 people who silently agree. 10 people can change alot.

Regardless, this looks like an amazing tournament and the 15th is a perfect date and I look forward to attending your event.

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Originally Posted by javiernunez

wow you're right. Thats the last time I listen to my business partner. We even got into an argument over that.

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Now i'm unclear as to when this thing actualy is. Did the 15th turning out to be a saturday, make it deserve to be the day of the tourny? or is it still being moved to the 22nd?

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Originally Posted by Madpeep

Yes, I realize this is a Legacy site, but as a vintage player who would also play Legacy if possible, I'm constantly frustrated by the fact that Legacy tournaments ALWAYS fall on the same days as the Mana Drain's posted vintage tournaments. Some of those vintage tourney's are posted up to three months in advance. Obviously during busy months when there are tournaments every weekend, there will be conflicts, but March has just a single Vintage tournament posted on March 8th. There were plenty of other weekends that could have supported a Legacy tournament without conflicting inbetween the two formats. And I'm not arguing that one format is better than another, it's just that I find it aggrivating that TO's don't appear to do any research at all before scheduling tournaments and it appears to me that all formats are suffering for it.

Anyway, since I'm no one of importance, all I can do is post my displeasure at not being able to participate and hope that TO's will take it into account when they plan their next event. One person won't make or break an event, but typically for each person willing to voice their complaint, there's usually 8-10 people who silently agree. 10 people can change alot.

Regardless, this looks like an amazing tournament and the 15th is a perfect date and I look forward to attending your event.

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Madpeep makes a very good point. Saying that just because this is a Legacy site doesn't at all refute the point that formats close to one another like Legacy and Vintage should try to avoid conflicts whenever possible. I don't understand the train of thought used against the point Madpeep made in his post.

That said, because of the change in date, you can count on me making it out to this.

Ray

I agree with the dates conflicting with other tournaments. Unfortunately Feb/March had the Mana Drain, 3 PTQs in a row in the area, and GP Philly. That made scheduling a conflict for everyone. I do my best not to conflict with others events. I searched on the Drain for events on the 8th, but missed that myriads was the same day. I appreciate that these organizers decided to move the date, and I will be trying my best to get to this event.

For those who can't make up your mind, clone yourself. As for me I am supporting the new guy.

as of now i'm planning to show up to this on the 15th and then again on the 22nd... just to make sure.

Hey guys its Javier from Die Hard Games, just wanted to clarify some questions about the tournament, so here we go.

Where:
Die Hard Games
1005 Main St - Suite 2230
Pawtucket, RI

When:
March 22, 2008
Registration starts at 10:00 AM, tournament will start between 11:30 - 12:00.

Entry Fee:
$20

DCI Santioned:
YES


Prize Structure:
1: $250
2: $125
3: $75
4: $50
5-8: TBA
I just wanted to let everyone know that 5-8 will def get prize support and that the more people we get, the deeper the prize support and further back it goes into the rankings.

If you have any questions feel free to call me at the store or at 401-374-0921

Could a mod please update the title (again)?

Done.

-braves

I think I will be there

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Originally Posted by Iamfishman

Madpeep makes a very good point. Saying that just because this is a Legacy site doesn't at all refute the point that formats close to one another like Legacy and Vintage should try to avoid conflicts whenever possible. I don't understand the train of thought used against the point Madpeep made in his post.

That said, because of the change in date, you can count on me making it out to this.

Ray

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Ray plays Legacy?...:eek:

Have fun Vampiric Tutoring for Balance in this format.......:tongue: :wink:

With the new date Wareham will have a car there. 3-5?

I'll drive if we split the cost of gas otherwise someone else can, gas is killing my wallet as of late.

I do not know how many people I will be bringing with me. If I can put some people in my car to subsudize gas so I can afford the tourney. I will also have to (un)official www.mtgthesource.com playmat.

Hey guys. I just wanted to post on here to give people an idea of the store since many people haven't been there yet.

Die-hard Games is a great, great store. I've been around the RI gaming scene for a long time and Die-hard ranks right up there with the best stores the area has ever seen. The people running it really care about gaming and listen to gamers (hence they already changed the date to accomodate people).

I haven't played Legacy in a long, long time but I'll be going out of my way to try and go to this. It helps I only live 10 minutes away too :p

For those traveling out of town, I can tell you safely that the tourney will be a blast. I probably sound like an employee but I don't work for them (or anyone right now :p). I'm just very happy this store opened because the RI gaming scene was very poor beforehand and Die-hard certainly helps to rejuvanate the scene.

They plan on holding $500 tourneys monthly with various formats but in order for them to consistently do that they need your support. I strongly encourage Legacy enthusiasts to make the trip. It will be worth it.

Hopefully see you then.

- Dave Feinstein

P.S. See some of you at GP Philly this weekend. Feel free to say hi =D