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Barook
It seems decent, but the high amount of life loss seems rather concerning.
Yes its 2x with ancient tomb way too much. But idk about Cloudpost decks, you get life back later with Glimmerpost and its a more gradual engine for the early turns when you set everything up...
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HdH_Cthulhu
Yes its 2x with ancient tomb way too much. But idk about
Cloudpost decks, you get life back later with
Glimmerpost and its a more gradual engine for the early turns when you set everything up...
12post would rather have candelabra any day of the week though and they aren’t maxed on that.
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Pretty sure that would be fighting for slots with Mazemind Tome in a Sol/Post deck, and Tome is just flat out better since it costs the same but has more options and gains you life instead of costing it.
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You're not going to convince me it's better than Ichor Wellspring
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FourDogsinaHorseSuit
You're not going to convince me it's better than Ichor Wellspring
Yeah. Eye of Vecna is pretty weak. Does anyone talk about using Arguel's Blood Fast for anything?
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I have tried Treacherous Blessing which is way more powerful in a sol land deck (which usually can win with a single spell) and it still hurts too much.
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FourDogsinaHorseSuit
Stay blue and run rooftop storm as alluren 5-8, lol
I'll be really impressed when someone accelerates into a S&T or Eureka or casts Rector to get Rooftop Storm into play then casts Sidisi, extorting himself to get Acrerak and then venturing into a dungeon for the win. :laugh:
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Cire
I'll be really impressed when someone accelerates into a S&T or Eureka or casts Rector to get Rooftop Storm into play then casts Sidisi, extorting himself to get Acrerak and then venturing into a dungeon for the win. :laugh:
They should ban it now, really.
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Zoid
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At least no human but seems good on the draw for D&T.
Does D&T play Knight of the White Orchid?
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rufus
No.
ANd I don't think we'll play the 3/1. not enough impact and 1 toughness...
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Tylert
ANd I don't think we'll play the 3/1. not enough impact and 1 toughness...
The whole "land behind" mechanic white has is garbage and it's typical for WotC that they're pushing it after bringing it back. They still don't know what makes white good.
Just look how good strong the effect of Land Tax can be - and it's basically unplayable. To make the mechanic playable, it would need to be way less conditional, e.g. ETB, put land into hand, if you have less lands, put it onto the battlefield instead. Or just give a Tithe on a stick. A two-mana legendary creature with good combat stats that would put a basic Plains into your hand ETB would be very playable - at worst, duplicates would effectively have Plainscycling, at best you would pull some serious Karakas/Flicker shenanigans.
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Barook
The whole "land behind" mechanic white has is garbage and it's typical for WotC that they're pushing it after bringing it back. They still don't know what makes white good.
Just look how good strong the effect of Land Tax can be - and it's basically unplayable. To make the mechanic playable, it would need to be way less conditional, e.g. ETB, put land into hand, if you have less lands, put it onto the battlefield instead. Or just give a Tithe on a stick. A two-mana legendary creature with good combat stats that would put a basic Plains into your hand ETB would be very playable - at worst, duplicates would effectively have Plainscycling, at best you would pull some serious Karakas/Flicker shenanigans.
Also so bad if you play 4+ of this. You can use this effect maybe once every other game. Rest of the cards are dead now. Imagine if you search up a basic plain (probably the most non offensive fairest thing you can do) and the game tells you to STOP!
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Yeah but you're asking this card to be playable in Legacy, the bar is extremely high.
Nobody is complaining that the Dungeon cards aren't playable in legacy or the Learn/Lesson cards from strixhaven aren't playable etc, why is this Tithe mechanic so objectionable in particular?
Knight of the White Orchid was certainly a playable card in Pioneer/Standard for example. It would be so strong for other formats if the 'fail case' just unconditionally added a plains to your hand, and then we would just get more crying from the people who complain that DNT is the only deck that keeps getting new tools every set (or has everyone forgotten that period now that ragavan is the new flavour of the month)
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So just print him at 1ww lol
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kombatkiwi
Yeah but you're asking this card to be playable in Legacy, the bar is extremely high.
Yeah, because someone asked if we could use it in D&T :)
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Barook
The whole "land behind" mechanic white has is garbage and it's typical for WotC that they're pushing it after bringing it back. They still don't know what makes white good.
They totally know, they just can't bring themselves to print good White cards without at least one :u: in the corner
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Oh I can totally see them print this in blue with Flash (so you can actually abuse this with fetch lands)
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HdH_Cthulhu
Oh I can totally see them print this in blue with Flash (so you can actually abuse this with fetch lands)
Blue would just steal lands equal to the difference.
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Wrath of Pie
Blue would just steal lands equal to the difference.
Don't worry, they'll balance it by saying you can't play any more lands this turn