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    Re: [Primer] Maverick 2.0 - GW/x

    Until I can get my hands on Scroll of Fate for Dreadstill I'm going to be playing Punishing Maverick. I am up to the full 4 copies of Punishing Fire, which has been good in a small sample of testing....
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    Re: [Primer] Maverick 2.0 - GW/x

    Observations after just a few test games with Reclaimer:

    He's faster on the board for Knight-like tricks, essentially Knight #5. I think W&6 will pair very well with both knight and Reclaimer....
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    Re: [Primer] Maverick 2.0 - GW/x

    The cycling dual land is an interesting idea. I just happen to have a copy of Sheltered Thicket in my binder to try that out. I am also trying out Elvish Reclaimer x1 as a GSZ target, and it...
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    Re: [Primer] Maverick 2.0 - GW/x

    As a Punishing Maverick player I've been thinking about this as well. PFire does a similar effect of repeated removal and Ramanup Excavator can be dug out with GSZ, but the efficiency of W&6 is...
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    Re: [Primer] Maverick 2.0 - GW/x

    I hope I'm not speaking out of turn with this: I think at that point you would just be a worse 'slow' depths list, even slower than the Mox Diamond lists. I agree that the backup plan is robust with...
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    Re: [Primer] Maverick 2.0 - GW/x

    Cool list, something I might work on depending on where I land. It looks like your plan was to utilize Weathered Wayfarer and Crop Rotation alongside the Knights as redundancy for tutoring...
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    Re: [Primer] Maverick 2.0 - GW/x

    In regards to playing Stage/Depths in Maverick, does anyone play Crop Rotation alongside it? I am still on the Punishing plan and I want to sideboard 1 Depths/Stage so I can have a way to close games...
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    Re: [Primer] Maverick 2.0 - GW/x

    Flying is likely the best text on the card, and what makes it borderline playable. In testing I have really liked Aven Mindcensor, which has an arguably better ability, but the reason for playing...
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    Re: [Primer] Maverick 2.0 - GW/x

    Just 2 small benefits of playing birds over hierarch: as a flyer it holds sofi/bskull better in combat and it blocks Marit Lage, which i see a lot of locally. It doesn't mean its better than nobles...
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    Re: [Primer] Maverick 2.0 - GW/x

    If you look above a few posts, I asked a similar question about a 4-color list. The feedback I received is that without Mox Diamond holding it together it can be very difficult to have stable mana. I...
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    Re: [Primer] Maverick 2.0 - GW/x

    I like the plan of taking the threats into nuclear territory against some fair decks, but doing it out of the sideboard. I was going to start putting in PW's at the upper end of the curve but I think...
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    Re: [Primer] Maverick 2.0 - GW/x

    Thanks for the comments, I'm not even going to try, lol. I'll stick with Punishing Mav for now. One last question: Has anyone played 1x Depths/Stage out of the sideboard in Punishing Mav? I don't...
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    Re: [Primer] Maverick 2.0 - GW/x

    So four color is out? I know the mana is stable with Grove/Punishing list (I play 4 basics as well), just wondering if its even worth it to go 4-color in order to have discard against combo but still...
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    Re: [Primer] Maverick 2.0 - GW/x

    Is 4 Colors too greedy do you think? Or is it just too close to Aggro Loam at that point and should shift gears? Not having targeted discard is the one big part of Punishing Maverick I don't like. I...
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    Re: [Primer] Maverick 2.0 - GW/x

    With you siding out Thalia so often do you see the opportunity to play Punishing Maverick as being effective? I am building up the deck and I'm close to optimal for a Punishing build, just a handful...
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    Re: [Primer] Maverick 2.0 - GW/x

    Ajani Vengeant is just a pet card, I'm always trying to cram it into decks. My fun-bias is based on it possibly being good in grindy matchups to lock down individually powerful threats (Gurmag,...
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    Re: [Primer] Maverick 2.0 - GW/x

    Thalia sideboard sounds very good. I'm assuming you cut pfire for them?
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    Re: [Primer] Maverick 2.0 - GW/x

    I do have an Excavator, easy one. I'll cut a Mindcensor for it. Arid Mesa over Foothills is because of card availability, don't have Foothills. Horizon Canopy, same, card availability is nill. Two...
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    Re: [Primer] Maverick 2.0 - GW/x

    So I'm not sure what I would replace the Mindcensors with. I am a little low on SFM right now, but I could be convinced to play all 4. Here is my starting list, keeping in mind that I haven't played...
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    Re: [Primer] Maverick 2.0 - GW/x

    I'm going to try it locally at least, probably 2-3 in the main. Its fast enough as long as i maintain a good amount of t1 acceleration.
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    Re: [Primer] Maverick 2.0 - GW/x

    Is Mindcensoer legit in Punishing Maverick? If so i would love to jam it as another land/tutor punisher.
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    Re: [Primer] Maverick 2.0 - GW/x

    Has anyone messed around with Kavu Predator in Punishing versions? I know it's basically just a big, dumb beater with StP/Grove synergies but sometimes you just need a 7/7 trampler to end the game....
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    Re: [Primer] Maverick 2.0 - GW/x

    This was really what I was driving at. I was surprised to see no Thalias in the 75 at all. Isn't Thalia one of the few ways to really have chances against combo decks though?
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    Re: [Primer] Maverick 2.0 - GW/x

    What's the reasoning behind no Thalia's in the Punishing Maverick list? Is it too mana intensive to maintain the engine alongside Thalia?
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    Re: [Primer] Maverick 2.0 - GW/x

    Ulvenwald Tracker ?
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