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    Re: Eight Crab - The new Mill.

    Ponder
    Fatal Push
    Thoughseize/Duress/Inquisition
    Surgical/Extripate

    Visions of Beyond sadly sucks too much.
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    Re: Eight Crab - The new Mill.

    The thing is that without crabs you don't have any targets for removal, blanking a lot of cards in certain decks.
    This allows your opponent to interact with you and slow you down.
    If you don't play...
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    Re: Eight Crab - The new Mill.

    While the disadvantage from FoW hurts like hell, it really has to go in there since the posted list loses 100% vs decks which don't fetch and if you can't get any crab-action going.

    Fraying Sanity...
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    Re: Eight Crab - The new Mill.

    Do we learn anything from the King of Jank literally discussing jank?

    Bruvac is even worse than Fraying Sanity which is also unplayable.
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    Re: Eight Crab - The new Mill.

    Sanity Grinding sucks major dick.
    Back in the day I tried to build a T2 deck with cascade into Grinding and all the Shadowmoor 5 mana hybrid demigods.
    Even that couldn't mill consistently.

    No...
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    Re: Eight Crab - The new Mill.

    https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/919/839/a04.jpg

    While the deck is certainly cute, I don't think it has a home in legacy.
    It's basically burn which doesn't have the ability to...
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    Re: Eight Crab - The new Mill.

    I should really not post late at night when my bad reading comprehension is at its lowest.

    Anyway,
    If they don't fetch, isn't that also good since they're likely not doing much?
    I guess it then...
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    Re: Eight Crab - The new Mill.

    Well, there are still 3 Symmetries to enable Traps.
    I guess it's a meta call.
    Nowadays the only decks that don't fetch are probably Chalice based.
    Most of the Chalice decks are probably slow...
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    Re: Eight Crab - The new Mill.

    Traps & Crabs is good candidate for the deck name.

    On topic:

    If I would play mill, my list would probably look similar.
    There are some things I'm curious about.

    Is Strix really good?
    I...
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    Re: Eight Crab - The new Mill.

    IMO Ghost Quarter is strictly better since it doesn't cost anything.
    Field doesn't come online until round 3 which might be a little late.
    If you're desperate for crab triggers you can also QC your...
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    Re: Eight Crab - The new Mill.

    White seems super bad.
    Path not only requires your opponents to play creatures but is also an optional search.
    The only way I can see Path to be ok if you have already assembled a team of...
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    Re: Eight Crab - The new Mill.

    It's good to see that my quality post has been appreciated.
    Feel free to reuse anything if you want to.

    Cancrix was mainly for the meme because I also think it's not good enough.

    Phantasmal...
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    Re: Eight Crab - The new Mill.

    Zoid out


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOCQQXXjVs8
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    Re: Eight Crab - The new Mill.

    Yeah the Ashiok comment is a fail on my side.

    Anyway, after a bit more thinking, I suppose that there are 2 decks here which do slightly different things.
    One is a spell based turbo mill, while...
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    Re: Eight Crab - The new Mill.

    Well, your arguments concerning xerox pretty much apply to anything.
    One of the problems of the archetype is that it can easily run out of steam.
    That's btw also why I would play 4 Visions.

    I...
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    Re: Eight Crab - The new Mill.

    Mind Funeral is good against xerox type decks which most likely slow you down significantly.
    Your deck just sucks against storm in general since you don't do anything to stop them and fuel Cabal...
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    Re: Eight Crab - The new Mill.

    I player UB mill for a while in modern so I can share a bit of my experience, since the deck looked similar.

    You should play at least some removal because you auto lose to a resolved creature +...
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