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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide

    Sorry, I missed that you wanted candleless.

    Honestly, if you want to play Spiral Tide without Candles, you can do pretty much whatever you want.

    I would definitely move a turnabout sideboard so...
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide

    This is not consensus, but I've found it to be very good.

    4 High Tide
    4 Time Spiral
    3 Turnabout
    3 Candelabra of Tawnos
    4 Merchant Scroll
    1 Cunning Wish
    1 Blue Sun's Zenith
    4 Brainstorm
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide, version, Spiral Tide

    One thing to note about Mentor - the tokens don't phase out. Teferi's Realm only phases out creature cards. One trick I've used against D&T with a vial out: bounce the vial with the trigger on the...
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide

    I'm not even kidding here, if you want to beat miracles, board in some pearl lake ancients,
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide

    With Brainstorm, Merchant Scroll, Intuition, and Sensei's Top (I play two tops, no counterbalance), discard doesn't hurt that badly. If they are making you discard, they aren't presenting a clock,...
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide

    I like the idea of cutting land. I don't think I would go down to 16, but 17 could work. The new mulligan rule helps a lot.
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide

    If you aren't playing Capsize, Top probably isn't worth it. And if you aren't playing Candels, Capsize isn't worth it.
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide

    What was your list/board this weekend?
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide

    Have you tried Teferi's Realm? Deals with all the annoying permanents, permanently, plus it doesn't get hit by Revoker.
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide

    You are going to have a very hard time going off on turn 3 consistently without Candels, no matter how many cantrips you jam into the deck. At that point, you should really just play Omnitell, and I...
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide

    Thursday Tournament Report! Not as in-depth as I usually do, pretty exhausted. I'm going to try to note high-impact cards from now on. I'll also only note my combo lines if they seem interesting,...
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide

    If you have an extremely discard-heavy local meta, I could see running one or two of these. They really don't fit our plan though, since we absolutely can't use them when we're comboing off.

    As...
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide

    Hahaha, elves is a sweet deck too though.

    Every once and a while I start calculating High Tide's theoretical maximum (4 lands, no bouncing candels), but I always lose count around the third spiral...
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide

    What I did was proxy up candel tide and goldfish it for a month. Candels are both expensive and hard to move, so I wouldn't invest in them until you are sure you enjoy the deck.

    Personally, I...
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide

    I went to GP Vegas this past weekend. I didn't actually get to play much magic, but there were a couple really cool highlights I wanted to share!

    On Friday, I borrowed a friend's Modern Storm...
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide

    Yeah, you're right, I was doing the math at 4am so I made a few errors haha. I still think those percentages are keepable, but its certainly tenuous. Mostly because I had won game 1, so if I lose...
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide

    The last two tournaments, I've played against the following:

    Jund, MUD, MUD, Fish (That was a rough night)
    Omnitell, Omnitell, No-Blue Mentor, Lands

    I'm tilted enough against miracles that I...
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide

    Well guys, after playing with Teferi's Realm for a couple months, I'm happy to report that I have lost 0 games in which it has resolved. It's a complete FU to Hatebears and MUD. I'm moving up to...
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide

    Hmm, I wonder if no Candles was by choice or budget? Meditate's not a card that's seen much recent play either.
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide

    Gotcha, thanks! That's good to know.
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide

    Went 3-0 tonight, same main as above. Mixed up my sideboard quite a bit though:

    Out: Capsize, Shattering Spree, Devastation Tide, Pithing Needle, Blood Moon, Blood Moon, Force of Will
    Stays:...
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide

    What was the scenario in which you got wastelanded? Was it something you could play around?

    Also, yeah Teferi's Realm has been doing work for me against Hatebears and Stax lol.
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide

    I figure I may as well post my list, since we're talking about Ur variants:

    8 Island
    2 Volcanic Island
    2 Polluted Delta
    2 Scalding Tarn
    2 Misty Rainforest
    2 Flooded Strand

    2 Sensei's...
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide

    If you're splashing red and need answers to hatebears, Pyroclasm out of the side is a beating. Has utility against Elves and Empty the Warrens too
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide

    It is "they're just dead" though, from experience. You are going to be able to go off before they can assemble a third or fourth attempt.

    Obviously you can draw every single land you play, for...
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