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Still turn 2 ish. Some turn 1s. Turn 2-3 with protection consistently.

It's basically the same deck I ran in 2020-2021, with Brainstorm replaced by Giant's Boulder. Roughly the same speed and...

Giant Creation

Giant's Boulder fills so many roles. Fixes RUG. Protects against Wasteland. Cheap spell. Library selection. Adds to metalcraft.


//Fast mana: 23
4 Lotus Petal
4 Lion's Eye...

Periodically they print 1 undercosted rare/mythic with a bunch of extra abilities that will clearly break Eternal formats. It ensures Eternal players are forced to buy into the new product. We're a...

Is there time to make a DtB for The Fantasticar before it shows up in the B/R thread?

Vroomsday and TES are both very competitive right now.

Car is the #1 deck on MtgTop8 over "Last 2 months"...

Is Curses worth bringing back?
(Trying to restart discussion on some of the few threads that were still active here in recent years)

In the current combo-heavy meta, prison seems good. Mtgtop8...

Some recent builds of Beseech Storm have come full circle back to the general strategy here in 2020-2021
https://mtgtop8.com/event?e=88651&d=872900&f=LE...

Thanks for attempting to keep this active!

Would it be easier to use the metagame share data from mtggoldfish? (Last 30 days or Last 90 days)
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/legacy#paper
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Or the intent was to sell more copies of Fantasticar, by making it the best turn 1 combo.

Is it a coincidence they suddenly ban something from Oops just before Car was released? After Oops' meta...

Are you still trying this strategy?

Black Belcher looks more appealing post-ban. You could even go harder on the combo plan in game 1, then board into beatdown.

I've been testing out a few...

True, the extra MDFC untapped black lands made 4 Duress 4 Thoughtseize builds very consistent. Those builds gets wrecked by Leyline, but pivoting into Belcher is too easy. What if they banned the MH3...

Oops has a lower meta share than UB Tempo, UR Tempo, UWx control, or Show and Tell:
https://mtgtop8.com/format?f=LE&meta=39&a=

The April 25th MTGO Legacy Showcase Challenge has 1 Oops in Top 8:...

Congrats on the result!

Do you want something like Massacre or Toxic Deluge in the SB for Mardu/Boros aggro? Or do you just accept punting those matches?

Typical Pox removal won't get there...

Entomb was perfectly fine in the format for years, as long as there wasn't another enabler.

UB Reanimator was broken exactly when a second 1-mana enabler existed: either Mystical Tutor or Troll...

UB Xerox Reanimator was discovered immediately after the Entomb unban. It was a top deck until the Mystical Tutor ban. Mystical was mainly banned for Ad Nauseam, but UB Reanimator was the second...

Stiflenought is seeing less play in this fairer format while control decks are doing well. This build still made a recent Challenge Top 16:
https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=81155&d=816847&f=LE

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I like the overall strategy.

Since you have only 16 permanent mana sources though, and 0 basics, I think the curve should be lower than typical monoblack aggro. Mana is a precious resource. More...

Phyrexian Furnace can be decent maindeckable Saga target in slow grindy control, like Parfait or Standstill.

It has a few useful modes for control:
- proactive chipping away at opponent's...

If that was from hand or library, it would see play.

Dragon's Rage Channeler, Surveil duals, Consider, etc.

As is it's too slow for the Hollow One/Madness decks or LED decks.

Containment Construct made the rare top8 in Riddlesmith (Killabee or other dedicated players)

However it is repeatable while Monument isn't. 3 mana is also infinitely more than 2 for these storm...

Riddlesmith might be the best use.

LED is also good: discard 2, +4 mana, draw card, cast card with that 4 mana. LED + Echo often fits with Riddlesmith.

Gamble gets some upside too. You draw...

FTW: Tanglepool Bridge, Wasteland, Swarm Shambler, Narnam Renegade, comment: Chrono is too good

dte: Oakshade Stalker, City of Traitors , Elvish Spirit guide, Chancellor of the Annex...

It would affect some cards that see play:
Dauthi Voidwalker
Currency Converter
Yorion, Sky Nomad
Charming Prince
Flickerwisp
Chrome Mox
Opposition Agent
Oblivion Ring effects

Yeah maybe there isn't a viable use.

The ideal enabler has a 0-mana no-tap activated ability that exiles 1-3 cards. Repeatable & free. Unfortunately the list of permanents with that text is small:...

What's the target deck for this week? Is it dte's?

WU Draw 3 vs U Draw 2 or U Draw 2 + 2/2 flyer.

Draw 3 is good, but costing double and needing the 2nd color could be a lot for those decks. It might see play but it doesn't look busted.


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