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    Re: Curse Stompy (Demon Stompy Reborn)

    Your Curse version was imho the best version of Black Stompy in an earlier meta defined by cards like Oko, Uro, Pyroblast, and Prismatic Ending. Those decks really struggled to answer a resolved 4-5...
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    Re: Curse Stompy (Demon Stompy Reborn)

    Do you still need 3 City of Traitors?

    Its main role is turn 1 Chalice (cut) and powering out the slow 4-5 cmc pieces. With Chalice cut, 3sphere down to 0-1 copy, the slower stuff cut (Karn, Helm,...
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    Re: Curse Stompy (Demon Stompy Reborn)

    The main reason to run the Helm combo is to pickup free wins against graveyard-based decks via maindeck Leyline, not to have the fastest combo. This is even better when fair decks depend on...
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    Re: Curse Stompy (Demon Stompy Reborn)

    Yeah overall it looks like the archetype has legs. Monoblack finally has enough fair playables.

    The worst cards in his build are the Howling Mines, Basilisk Collar, and the 1 Lotus Petal (probably...
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    Re: Curse Stompy (Demon Stompy Reborn)

    Thanks for the positive feedback!
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    Re: Curse Stompy (Demon Stompy Reborn)

    Lowling Mine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eer_AWA-ywU


    //Lands: 20
    4 Ancient Tomb
    1 City of Traitors
    11 Swamp
    4 Urza's Saga

    //Acceleration: 8
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    Re: Curse Stompy (Demon Stompy Reborn)

    The One Ring might push this archetype over the top with card advantage and protection. This shell accelerates to big mana better than the other colors due to Dark Ritual.

    LOTR Helm


    //Lands:...
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    Re: Curse Stompy (Demon Stompy Reborn)

    Iggy Helm by Thraben U: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgq6Gfe11Hg


    //Mana: 23
    3 Chrome Mox
    4 Ancient Tomb
    3 City of Traitors
    10 Snow-Covered Swamp
    2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
    1 Takenuma,...
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    Re: Curse Stompy (Demon Stompy Reborn)

    They might just errata the whole mechanic like they did with Companion. These new broken mechanics tend to be short-term cash grabs, then they ban it once they capitalized all their print run.
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    Re: Curse Stompy (Demon Stompy Reborn)

    Black Initiative (or WB) looks promising as players run cards like Snuff Out, Unchained Berserker, and Archon of Absolution to beat mono W.
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    Re: Curse Stompy (Demon Stompy Reborn)

    This Black Initiative List made the 5-0 dump: https://www.mtgo.com/en/mtgo/decklist/legacy-league-2023-01-07#deck_OnlyLandsDotCom

    //Mana: 28
    4 Chrome Mox
    4 Dark Ritual
    4 Ancient Tomb
    4 City of...
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    Re: Curse Stompy (Demon Stompy Reborn)

    @Reeplcheep: Are you still playing Curses? Have you tried out Black Initiative creatures?

    Example

    //Mana: 28
    4 Chrome Mox
    4 Dark Ritual
    4 Ancient Tomb
    4 City of Traitors
    7 Swamp
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    Re: Curse Stompy (Demon Stompy Reborn)

    Reeplcheep, are you still playing this?

    Dauthi/Helm seems to have taken over as the dominant black stompy. Can't tell if that's due to better metagame positioning or just lack of Reeplcheep...
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    Re: Curse Stompy (Demon Stompy Reborn)

    Looks good. How is it performing with the new Curse? Do you miss the lifegain? Has the hardcast come up yet?
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    Re: Curse Stompy (Demon Stompy Reborn)

    Congrats on making 3rd!

    Prison and maindeck Leyline seem strong in that meta: 2nd place was full HelmLine combo (4 Voidwalker, 4 Leyline, 3 Helm, 4 Karn) and 4th place was Blood Moon. Looking at...
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    Re: Curse Stompy (Demon Stompy Reborn)

    Good point. Saga makes those starts even more powerful, never casting a counterable spell.
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    Re: Curse Stompy (Demon Stompy Reborn)

    Is Sphere of Annihilation helping in those matchups?

    How's the 4x Sudden Edict main performing? Seems great against Depths, Reanimator, SneakShow, and threat-light blue decks. But what about fair...
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    Re: Curse Stompy (Demon Stompy Reborn)

    Yeah don't waste space on too many Saga targets. Retrofitter Foundry + Moxes are enough. If you run too much Saga cheese, you end up with bad topdecks and lose harder if they disrupt Saga. Saga on...
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    Re: Curse Stompy (Demon Stompy Reborn)

    Congrats on the wedding.

    What's the reason for Dismembers? Seems risky in an Ancient Tomb deck. Is this just to have turn 1 answers for Ragavan (that play around Chalice @ 1)? Could Warping Wail...
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    Re: Curse Stompy (Demon Stompy Reborn)

    Interesting. I like the SB plan to board out the slowest stuff and bring in the man plan. Probably your best fighting chance vs Delver, and those decks may board out removal not expecting it.

    You...
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    Re: Curse Stompy (Demon Stompy Reborn)

    I think it's worth trying out if you're already struggling vs Delver no matter which configuration you submit.

    The Oko meta was so different. Oko invalidated creatures and rewarded...
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    Re: Curse Stompy (Demon Stompy Reborn)

    Yeah, that makes sense. It's basically Mastermind's Acquisition + gain 3 life (if they don't kill Karn immediately you -2 again for a 2nd card). It's an expensive line, but less conditional than...
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    Re: Curse Stompy (Demon Stompy Reborn)

    Interesting. How do you find boarding out Karn performs vs Delver? How is Karn vs them in Game 1?

    How does Helm perform vs Delver postboard? What happens when you draw 2 Helms?

    Karn is slow...
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    Re: Curse Stompy (Demon Stompy Reborn)

    Congrats on 9th. You keep just barely missing Top 8, but overall doing well.

    Vs Delver that's a tough one. You already have 4x Sudden Edict main. I don't think any other 1-for-1 will be better vs...
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    Re: Curse Stompy (Demon Stompy Reborn)

    I think Saga is not worth it.

    1) You don't have any good targets to tutor, maybe a Mox. If you sacrifice a land to tutor for Mox Opal in a monoblack deck, this is worse than just playing Swamp....
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