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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Sorry, the explanation was not paste with My blue list and i understand your comment :smile:

    I know the list proposed is not common, i always try to think about the metagame. It can be surpassed...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Hi,

    I way thinking how we can go thought Enduance, and finally the answer was to come back to a Blue dredge manaless ! Here the list i propose:

    1 Flayer of the Hatebound
    4 Prized Amalgam
    4...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Hi,

    I tried also to make a list "GREEN Manaless" including Endurance. Some of you will ask why Hogaak, Arisen Necropolis is not present MD. It' s possible, maybe 2 is OK but I have not found the...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Hi,

    long time without making a comment on this topic (my favorite deck). With modern Horizon II, we have now new possibility. 2 cards seems really good : GRIEF and ENDURANCE


    The advantage of...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    I usually play Flayer of the Hatebound because against a tabernacle it’s a little better than giant. I didn’t know konrad I ll have a look to it. Nice to see what we think fixed can still be...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Last thing seen during test for Once upon a time :
    G2 : It possible to play once upon a time, find a narcomoeba and cast force of will thanks to this blue card :wink:
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Be humble final fortune, you are not the only one playing this deck for a long time and you don’t have only novice reading / answering to this primer :smile:

    Both of you are wright. From my point...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    After Test, Once Upon a Time is a wonderfull card !

    - it's a green card (for force of vigor)
    - can be cast during the unkeep T1 of opponent (so without any answer than force of will)
    - can be...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    I think it’s a real good card:
    - it’s green
    - you have to play it first, this mean you can even against a blue deck discard T1 your dredger, and play one upon a time as instant during T2 opponent...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Hi, please find how I have builded my list with leyline :


    It is possible to play with leyline but you have to modify your list to include discard on yourself. Thanks to that, you can have Turn...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Mulligan is possible to find the leyline with unmask and Lion’s eye diamond :)
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Yes your feedback is good. The maindeck is less powerfull than a classic list but with a big choice for the SB.
    The reason is : We play between 50% and 66% of our parties with SB cards, that’s why...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Hi,

    Please find the list I m currently testing :


    4 Ichorid
    4 Unmask
    4 Serum Powder
    4 Hogaak, Arisen Necropolis
    4 Golgari Thug
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Is the new mulligan official , actually appliqued in tournament ?
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    It seems creeping chill is the out for integrating hoggak, admitted by most of people.
    The question still pending for 4 cards: do we keep combo plan or we replace by 4 unmask?
    The 2 are good....
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    After testing Haggok is a wonderful upgrade for the deck, 4 auto include every day !
    Balustrade spy isn’t necessary, and now flayer of the hatebound is better than lotleth giant (due to haggok). I...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    I played this list on 3 small tournament (12 players) witch mean nothing. I have done 1 big tournament (129 players, and finished 29th, egality with the 14th.
    LED can make miracles
    - i won game 1...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Hi,


    I would like to present you my actual version of Manaless.

    explanation :

    I have been playing the blue version for a long time (4 years?) and tried to update it each time it was...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Hi,

    as everyone know, the ban of deathrite shaman + gitaxian probe the 06/07/18 was a revolution for the legacy, but what's the impact for Manaless dredge ?
    After 2 mounths, the metagame is...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    After the first tests I will adopt :
    ...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    If you have 2 Vengeful Pharaoh in the graveyard and your opponent attacks with 1 creature.
    1 or 2 Vengeful Pharaoh will go on top of your library ?
    (target still available for the 2nd pharaoh?)
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Echelon, I'm quite agree with your version (I prefer Whirlpool Rider than Balustrade Spy because of SB), and Creeping Chill has to be tested.

    What's your SB actually? Because of the U/b Death's...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    .... and just flayer + prized amalgam you can kill a Griselbrand :)
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Hi,

    after testing please find my feedback of this experimental version :

    Whirlpool Rider is clearly missing main deck. I use to play without before the ban of deathrite shaman, but it was...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Hi,

    I would like to propose you a variant I' m testing actually with artifact. I try to find a solution to Grafdigger's Cage and other anoying card as Containment Priest.



    " The brown...
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