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At this point I guess arguing back and forth is futile and you have to let your game experience speak. I never had a problem where I was like 'oh no, I'm going to lose with a firestorm in hand...

For the record I've never paid much attention to the blue version which I dropped for the reasons you provided. Pure Rg is more explosive and has fewer mana issues. I developed this deck more or less...

Yeah I'm not clicking video links that lead to hour long streams. How about a plain old decklist and a summary of matchups?

Glad to see people have picked up this list. A little advice from someone who spent a lot of time tuning the list pre-mh2:

-Asylum Visitor is too slow. Madness more than 0 is hard to justify, the...

Looks like my list has been picking up pace thanks to the new toys from MH2

I mean, there are plenty of Legacy decks that don't play much discard, FoW or Chalice (though I'll admit that their portion of the meta shrinks by the day thanks to Wizards having a hardon for blue...

I looked at that thread, it's nice to see other directions this could take. I guess the GB Vengevine lists are closer to the (streamlined) Hogaak archetype? For what it's worth, I tried to include...

Been having pretty good results with an R/G Madness list, inspired from those Vintage Survival lists. Check it out:

R/G Madness

4 Hollow One
4 Lion's Eye Diamond
4 Anje's Ravager
4 Basking...