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I've been playing a deck centered around White Orchid Phantom, Birthing Ritual, Wight of the Reliquary, Bowmasters, Renegade Rallier, and Ghost Quarter in Timeless. It's a lot of fun. The mana...

You make a totally fair point. The counter point is, if they actually did what you suggest and start banning the truly problematic cards (e.g. FoW, Daze, Entomb, Reanimate) instead of the new cards...

I think Reanimator only becomes a "problem" worthy of a ban if it can simultaneously play an unfair and fair strategy, which is what it has recently been accomplishing. Its not hard to hate out a...

The bold is the main thing people are glossing over here. And its actually better at being Goyf than Goyf (growth is immune to hate and it has evasion) and better at being Confidant than Confidant...

After browsing the Birds on Scryfall, I'll go out on a limb and say this will not see constructed play outside of possibly Standard. I was thinking it could possibly become viable in Pioneer if they...

They're probably looking at things from a very cursory level. Likely to just review top line sales of various products and advise/direct to do more of X and less of Y. You would hope they defer to...

In all seriousness, I think you're definitely correct. Even as someone who has been playing since the 90s, some of these new Standard sets are confusing as hell. Some notable recent ones:...

How would that improve the purchase of Commander Precons?

I'll repost what I said a few days ago in the Tog Smash thread:



Frog and Scam fit so naturally together in what is already the highest Meta share deck. Frog can/will end up being the EI for...

This likely ends up with them banning Grief since they won't want to ban Frog while MH3 is brand new. Eventually I could see both Frog and Grief getting banned. UBx will be taking over more and...

The idea for relay is just to operate as Necro 5-8. If you have a hand with a bunch of fast mana artifacts and Relay you can keep them and try to Relay into Necro. What you say about IT makes sense...

Have you tested Galvanic Relay and/or Infernal Tutor? Relay seems good in a build that tries to protect with discard spells and then win on the Relay turn. It is also more immune to discard itself....

Here is an example of a Breach list before it was banned: https://mtgtop8.com/event?e=24612&d=372162&f=LE

If you compared it to the Necro lists:

Consistency: assembling the combo is about the...

An interesting 4th place finish list from one of the challenges posted earlier in the thread:

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6451126#paper

This is another obvious way to abuse Necro. If all...

Storm count is not an issue at all. The main issue is finding a turn 1 necro, which was why I mentioned initially upon seeing the list that it may not be completely broken.

Also keep in mind...

That's the part that struck me. The only real decisions he was making was whether to mull and what to put back on Valakut lines. Considering it wins that fast usually with at least one piece of...

That sounds fun. I've also been wanting to try the new Frog.

That's a good starting list and I agree probably less of a viable strategy in Legacy. IMO, the best card Legacy has that Timeless doesn't for this archetype is Saga so I'd want to test with that. ...

On a slightly off topic note I've been playing the following in Timeless. It plays like fair Necro control and reminds me of the Drain Life version from decades ago:

4 Dark Ritual

4...

Glad this came true...I still don't think its going to end up being a real deck but who knows.

Feels wrong to not play Thoughtseize. That list is basically just auto lose to combo unless you have Grief.

Feels like there's way too many expensive cards. Need to trim some of the fun stuff...

Here is a more unfair list that will probably be interesting (building off Beseech Storm):

/fast mana

4 Chrome Mox
4 Dark Ritual
4 Lion's Eye Diamond
4 Lotus Petal
4 Mox Opal

@FTW

I'd venture to guess March of Wretched Sorrow is superior to Consuming Corruption because its yet another card that lets you convert excess cards into velocity while accomplishing the same...

Necro can slot nicely into Pox but your list is not great. Start by cutting Nethergoyf, Confidant, Hymn, and Beeseech. Go to 4 Dark Ritual, which is your best opening card.

You should be playing...

Best options are Thopter and Urza's Bauble. Can go -4 Patchwork +3 Bauble +1 Foundry. Might be better.