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Maybe Torpor is still not good enough main then, better in SB. You still have 4x Dress Down maindeck so the matchup must be good.



Dreadnought is already favored vs Delver, right? I just...

How are you guys doing with Dreadstill lately?

Maindeck Dress Down and SB Torpor Orb seem strong in this meta. Could you even get away with 1 Torpor main, for the G1 surprise?

That means you'd...

Ark4n took Fox's UR Dreadstill to 11th place in Sunday's Legacy Challenge:
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/legacy-challenge-2022-10-03#arkn_th_place

I assume Fox gave...

I should rewatch. Maybe it was just bad luck and less often than I thought. On first watch, it felt like there were multiple spots where he kept needing to draw into 4 lands to enable your out...

@Fox: I notice quite a few games here are lost to mana screw on few lands. The very thing that Ponder fixes. I get that you don't want Ponder in Dreadstill, but it's also <20 colored sources with...

Interesting tech. Looking forward to seeing more of it online.



4-of Stubborn Denial without another (early) big creature? Is this often used in Force Spike mode? Do the Saga Constructs...

Watched Rood crush with UR at 58:00 (Match 4) in this vid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1qLqvg-N_8&t=11s

OP's deck otherwise has some strong things going on (Moons, 20/20s), good enough that...

I watched some of them. The deck looks very strong, was piloted better in those matches, and performed very well. It was also a lot more interesting to watch you advising Piproberts real-time instead...

Thinking about this more..



Glacial Floodplain, Irrigated Farmland and Soaring Seacliff are not worth a card in Legacy. Tapped nonbasic Island is significantly worse than untapped Island. Even...

My comment above was pretty clear about this being an option (if you're already an ETutor deck and already running Map for Saga tricks), not the reason to run Tutors. Also notice the phrasing "go...

At least for Landstill/Dreadstill. UW RipHelm / UW Parfait can ETutor for Land Tax to fix colors. Strawberry Shortcake can tutor for Great Furnace to get their main color (much worse than Weldable...

Players do it because it's the direction Wizards has taken the game since at least a decade ago. It's how the most formats work and all new players know.

Old school players remember Magic used to...

If you're talking about Ark4n's video where he double Stifled Saga to stop construct creation, I think he was tapped out for Ragavan when Saga hit Chapter 2. Waiting a turn to hold up Stifle mana is...

Interesting. That explains the deck choices.

Skimming through some of his leagues, it looked like Standstill was the worst card in the deck. The deck can't just drop turn 2 Standstill on an empty...

What do you all think of Akr4n's winning URw "Dreadstill" list just splashing 1x Dreadnought 1x Standstill, and going heavy on Urza's Sagas and Ragavans?

Although it seems unfocused, it looks like...

I watched the video again all the way through, and I have to agree with Fox here. Bosh's comments and play decisions throughout the vid support that.

Round 1 - Typical "free win vs Round 1 jank"...

Are we watching the same video? Bosh couldn't have 5-0ed.

vs Oops he already won the game where he didn't Daze Dark Ritual (Daze was irrelevant), but lost both G2 and G3 with useless Daze stuck...

I think the relevant point here is that if playing around Daze doesn't meaningfully reduce their chance of winning (e.g. because they are facing pressure and will lose or fall far behind by passing...

See above about 7-turn clock vs 2-turn clock with Standstill.

In a vacuum the Drekavac is not great no matter the size (which I assume is why Stiflenought is not a Tier deck without Standstill).

Are there actually better threats that synergize this much with this plan?

Dreadnought is a 2-turn clock. What other 1-drop or 2-drop comes close?
Delver is a 7-turn clock if it even flips...

I have very little experience playing this archetype, playing UWx Landstill more back in the day, but my understanding of this from 10ish years ago was that Dreadnought + Standstill fit together...

Scroll of Fate and Stifle are already known quantities in Dreadstill, the best enablers.

Lazav: what does it do the rest of the time, when you don't have a fatty in the GY or they exiled your...

Is there a viable tempo UB Dreadnought or is that just better achieved by Ur?

See edit above. Face Down is not copiable.
https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Face_down
https://blogs.magicjudges.org/rules/cr706/

This interaction already would have come up in the past with any...

Is Face Down even a copiable attribute? Would the opponent's creature enter as a facedown 2/2 or just as a 2/2? Ixidron is different. It takes creature cards on the battlefield (nontoken) and turns...