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  1. Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    I like the list. It looks fun. Really like that youre experimenting with some brand new untested tech. Let me know how it ends up doing.

    4 mana seems like a lot for Vannifar but Legolas is very...
  2. Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    Yeah that is a weird list. Malcolm doesnt make sense imo.

    As for your question. I am a big fan of playing 3-4 Uro alongside 4 Dreadnought. Uro supplements 4 Stifle, 4 Dress Down and 1 Slip Out the...
  3. Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    All great suggestions, ponder being a sorcery was always a pain. Being able to leave mana open for stifle, dress down, cycling, brainstorm, force of negation or saurons ransom etc are great. And...
  4. Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    Dismissal has potential but the need for a white splash is a problem.

    Btw, does anyone have a recent list? What do you think of this list?


    4 Death's Shadow
    3 Phyrexian Dreadnought
    3...
  5. Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    Yes I think thats the way to go. Dreadnought basically becomes Shadow 5-8, a shadow that can be played without having to go down to 9 life. And since it has trample, you dont need to waste slots for...
  6. Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    I do think Boshnrolls 10-0 suggests that Varolz is worth testing…

    https://youtu.be/_pYeymSuFs4

    Just replace Fatal Push with Orcish Bowmasters and Dismember with Daze and the deck is perfect...
  7. Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    We already play Deaths Shadow. Other than Shadow, what would a playable black one drop even look like?

    A 1/1 that you can sac to thoughtseize your opponent, thats all I can think of.

    White has...
  8. Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    Functionally similar to Varolz, yes Varolz also combos with Shadow but the loot ability is a massive asset. If only it had 2 toughness it would absolutely be worth a slot or two.
  9. Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    The Shadow/Scam package is the best direction for the deck currently.

    Boshnroll 5-0ed with a sweet build…

    https://youtu.be/_pYeymSuFs4

    4 Dress Down
    4 Brainstorm
    4 Death's Shadow
    2...
  10. Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    Not sure what you mean by crappy mana. Shadow Nought can easily work as a UB Deck or a UBr Deck.

    You’re minimizing the synergy of Dress Down with Shadow. They also complementhh hh each other in...
  11. Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    The biggest pro of Death Nought/Naked Shadow is Thoughtseize and the scam package (Grief/Troll/Reanimate).

    Thoughtseize is amazing in a resolve/protect the Queen strategy for two turns to win the...
  12. Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    Not surprised at 6-1, the deck is very well positioned vs Bowmasters, but whats this honda civic deck?
  13. Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    Some 5-0s and other solid finishes for the deck…

    Boshnroll 5-0ed with…

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-atvZPmHdtc

    2 Berserk
    4 Brainstorm
    1 Breeding Pool
    4 Daze
  14. Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    Can Misdirection redirect a Solitude? If so, Misdirection actually looks pretty good in Bosh’s list. Redirecting a removal spell from Delver or White Initiative is a blow out and Misdirection is just...
  15. Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    4 Torpor Orbs in the sideboard seem an autoinclude with how prevalent initiative and doomsday is, especially in lists with Uro/Kroxa.

    Initative Stompy Urzas Saga and Doomsday lists are everywhere,...
  16. Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    Slip Out the Back is amazing with Dreadnought, and a great way to protect its threats or remove blockers. Exactly what this deck needed.

    Recent 5-0 lists are playing it as a 2 of, which seems like...
  17. Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    Yeah, youre right. Ragavan was just too damn good not to splash for, but with it gone, red is no longer a must play. Bauble and DRC arent good enough.

    Post Ragavan ban, I think the optimal...
  18. Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    I suppose they could be played as 3 ofs. DRC helps us with filtering draws too. Its similar to Brainstorm but in Red (comparable to Spyro in Modern) that allows us to avoid dead cards.
  19. Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    Have really been loving adding Dressnought to UR Delver…

    4 Stifle
    4 Dress Down
    4 Wasteland
    3 Dreadnought
    4 Ragavan
    4 DRC
    4 Murktide
    2 Bauble
  20. Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    jacetmsst recently 5-0ed with the Bant Dressnought list very similar to the one in the OP…

    https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/legacy-stiflenought#paper

    4 Phyrexian Dreadnought
    4 Uro, Titan...
  21. Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    Sundial of the Infinite seems very abusable in Uro Dressnought lists with Endurance.

    I’m assuming you can end the turn after letting the card draw trigger of Uro resolve but before the sacrifice...
  22. Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    I think the red builds have been the most successful. I also saw the video where BoshNRoll went 4-1 with the below list…

    Creatures (13)
    4 Dragon's Rage Channeler
    3 Phyrexian Dreadnought...
  23. Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    Im actually of the belief that Ragavan is what's keeping Lurrus banned in legacy and that Lurrus gets unbanned soon after Ragavan gets banned. The day that happens, something similar to the below...
  24. Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    For all the talk about Dreadstill, I couldnt find any Dreadstill lists put up any finishes on mtgtop8 in the past year. Where as a few Dressnought lists have already put up high finishes including...
  25. Re: [Primer] Six Shades of Dressnought aka Vaka-Nought

    How do you figure standstill is any good currently? The flash in threats like Endurance, Ice Fang, Hullbreacher etc and the prevalence of Urza’s Saga make this a singularly poor time to go all-in on...
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