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    Only "saturation" metrics, if I recall ArFo's comments.

    Arguments based on play-styles diversity (a foreign concept to you, apparently), are at the forefront. You consistently ignore this PoV,...
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    Yes I have. With answers, which are what you use to the interact. The other engine itself is not an interactive tool - it sets interactions.


    If the DRS/Cantrip fair decks take a hit,...
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    But there is no evidence that decks of all those styles would actually be competitive. Your just pulling that conjecture out of your ass.
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    So, if you stall your opponents with Wasteland, Daze, Spell Peirce, Cabal Therapy, you can be a fair deck, but if you stall them with Wasteland, Thalia, and other hate bears you're not a fair deck? ...
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    I understand that.

    Personally I'm less concerned with diversity in engines because they are not the most interactive parts of the deck. I want decks to play differently against each other. I...
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    I am not talking about the recent decision to allow none.

    I'm talking about ~2004 when they said we couldn't have BoP & Llanowar standard legal at the same time because two dorks were too many.
    A...
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    Here's the real rub.

    When SDT was legal, I argued that Miracles was unique in being "hard control". The ban-bs-camp argued tooth and nail that, eg, the BUG midrange/control decks were...
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    For that matter, Serum Visions is also not strictly worse than Recall. Obviously broken!


    Only if you don't understand the arguments in the first place.

    "Skill-testing" is bull crap, totally...
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    Not complaining about Elves. Also not about Miracles, Storm, or S&T.

    What worries me is too many creature based decks made of a balanced mix of threats and answered played on a fair mana curve...
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    1 - this is a strictly theoretic discussion. We have no power or influence.
    2 - What WotC says one day doesn't always hold the next. Remember when they said 2 1cc dorks was too much for Standard? ...
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    There will always be tier-2 decks kept down by the tier-1 decks. That was as true during "Maverick Summer" as it is today. We can't ban cards because the top decks are holding back the fringe...
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    As a Lands player (mostly RGu - the "toolbox" version), these are different.

    For one, their Wasteland encourages making a token on my turn, but the other deck's Jace encourages EOT Marit Lage.
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    It's okay if the best deck is good-stuff with Brainstorm. It's not okay if too many decks are playing similar strategies.

    Dark Maverick is quite the fringe deck, and doesn't belong in the...
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    This might be a big force behind the meta - too many players wanting to play "normal Magic".

    We've had a lot of growth in the last ten years. Anybody who's been playing MTG for less than a...
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    What I'm saying is it is wrong to assume an argument which app!is to BS applies equally to other powerful blue draw spells. I provided 2 counterexamples to make short work of that assertion.

    I...
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    This surprises me.

    I've never sleeved up D&T, but from what I hear Sneaky Show or UB Reanimator are almost a cinch, UR Delver is very hard to beat, and Miracles is a close to even grind.

    I...
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    You could use the Brainstorm arguments for other "broken blue effects", but you might very well be wrong.

    Case in point - DTT. Sure, it found a home in all sorts of archetypes, but it pushed...
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    D&T is DTB, and Lands is still a force in the meta (although it's a bit scarce in the field sometimes because of reasons).


    For anybody still wondering why people want a DRS ban when BS is played...
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    Ribbing withdrawn.

    But in seriousness, you did know the answer to your question (whether you agree or not), and were just trying to stir up shit? Am I wrong?
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    I count 75.

    But S&T is not connected to the flood of good-stuff decks which are (potentially) problematic.
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    Elves doesn't run that many lands, but they run as many as they do because Cradle and Dryad Arbor are non-starts.

    The other decks are kind of fringy, but Nic-Fit is a ramp deck, and KotR deck...
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    I know darn well he's not new. Which is exactly why he should have been able to answer his own question.

    I answered it for him regardless, but not without a (well earned) passive-aggressive dig.
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    Interestingly, in this last GP's top-8, every BS deck also ran DRS. Obviously that's not representative of the meta, but a fun fact nonetheless.

    To answer your question, (and I assume you are new...
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    Elf deck in top-8, DRS gotta go!
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    Golem Spirit Guide would be fine if it added :1: instead of :2:. Not very thematic though - Golem Spirit? Eldrazi Spirit Guide would be make more sense.
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