View Poll Results: Most bannable card in Legacy? (not that they will touch it)

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  • Brainstorm

    16 8.33%
  • Force of Will

    4 2.08%
  • Lion's Eye Diamond

    35 18.23%
  • Counterbalance

    34 17.71%
  • Sensei's Divining Top

    103 53.65%
  • Tarmogoyf

    46 23.96%
  • Phyrexian Dreadnaught

    2 1.04%
  • Goblin Lackey

    4 2.08%
  • Standstill

    6 3.13%
  • Natural Order

    8 4.17%
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Thread: All B/R update speculation.

  1. #23061

    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin View Post
    Expressive Iteration is a dumb card that will be banned


    Itís an impulse earlygame that is predict lategame or if you build your deck around it (baubles etc) .. neither of those cards are broken. Nights whisper Grixis isnít killing anyone.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reeplcheep View Post


    Itís an impulse [s]earlygame[/s] Turn 2 that is predict [s]lategame[/s] after Turn 2 or if you [s]build your deck around it (baubles etc)[/s] run lands or spells that you can cast
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  3. #23063

    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Delver usually doesnít have 2 lands plus a land drop on t3 (That means you havenít wasted or dazed at all on the first 2 turns) or 0 mana proactive spells. Snap caster and TNN are considered lategame cards by delver standards.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Discussion of the "end of Pro Play" was split into it's own topic: here.
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  5. #23065

    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    While I have conflicting views on Brainstorm in Legacy, this really makes me chuckle:

    At the Strixhaven Championship, the most-played nonland cards are all red or blue: there are 647 copies of Brainstorm , 483 copies of Expressive Iteration , and 374 copies of Faithless Looting across all Historic main decks.

    What's more, the most-played land is not even a basic land or Fabled Passage . It's Steam Vents , at 627 total copies. In fact, Steam Vents is the second most-played card overall, just behind Brainstorm .
    Whoever though it was a good idea to make the Mystical Archive legal in historic should be fired and then rehired just so they can be fired again.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zoid View Post
    While I have conflicting views on Brainstorm in Legacy, this really makes me chuckle:

    Whoever though it was a good idea to make the Mystical Archive legal in historic should be fired and then rehired just so they can be fired again.
    How many shuffle effects do they run? Looking it up, it seems they only run 2.2 Fabled Passages on average, disproving the common argument that you need enough shuffle effects for Brainstorm to be good.

  7. #23067

    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    How many shuffle effects do they run? Looking it up, it seems they only run 2.2 Fabled Passages on average, disproving the common argument that you need enough shuffle effects for Brainstorm to be good.
    Well, phoenix runs more discard since it's part of their plan. It's also a bit different if you just try to chain enough cantrips to trigger the birds as the amount of cards you would like to see is a much larger fraction of your deck in this case.

    Most other decks just play it because it's still the best cantrip at instant speed or have other tricks that work well with it.

    Sauce btw:

    https://magic.gg/news/strixhaven-cha...game-breakdown

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