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Typically you write a new primer, make a new thread, then PM a mod linking them to the old primer and the new one you wrote. Then they will move your new primer to the appropriate thread and move the old thread into some sad, lonely graveyard forum. You will link to the old thread in the new primer thread, just so people know where to look for old discussions. And you basically just start over with a new thread.
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Well, that's what I did.
No need for the sad face. You already wrote a new primer. Just PM a mod and ask them to move stuff around. They will take care of it. You did all the work already. This is a good thing!
edit in response to edit:
Okay then. You are all set! Grats on the new primer! I was mostly clarifying the process for people who may have thought you did something wrong.
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I asked Nihil Credo, because he does the DTB-stuff. Now that Apple asked Zilla I fear there might be some confusion.
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@AnziD
I'm really glad you wrote all that because now I don't have to. You have captured perfectly what I feel about gitaxian probe. Simply put, Gitaxian probe often reveals information that has very low impact on the game and "pay 2 life: draw a card" is not very good.
@ Technicolor Mage
Please do that exercise that anziD recommended. Identifying decks on the first turn or 2 is critical. The easiest Identifier as to what deck is sitting across from you is typically its land base. Many decks keep a fetch land in play until their second turn and its difficult until they actually use them. However many turn 1 plays reveal what your opponent is playing, or at least the type of deck they are playing.
few examples
Land: rishadan port <---- if this is the first land its usually D&T unless lands / goblins kept a bad hand, or goblins drops a vial.
Deck: Goblins / death and taxes / 43 lands
Type - Aggro - just win fast
Land: mutavault
Deck: merfolk / Slivers
Type - Tempo - watch out for counters
Land: Karakas / plains
Deck: death and taxes
type: Anti Sneak attack - get lucky :P
Land: taiga
Deck: Jund / 43 lands / zoo <--- if you see this in your meta it expect to win :P
Type aggro / control - expect to win
Land: Bayou
Deck: BUG / Jund / Nic Fit / loam Pox
Type: Aggro / control - expect discard
Land: tropical island
Deck: RUG / Bant <---- you play against this just about the same as you play against RUG so it doesn't really matter
Type: Tempo (watch for counter spells)
Land: Ancient tomb / city of traitors
Deck: Dragon stumpy / Imperial Painter / MUD / Stax / Sneak Attack <------ should refrain from playing either of those turn 1 unless you are casting show and tell / sneak attack
Type: Control - Chalice of void on 1, watch out for phyrexian revoker.
Land: Volcanic island
Deck: RUG / Sneak Attack
Land: Underground Sea
Deck: Reanimator / BUG / Team America / Esper / ANT (5 Good decks use it, probably why its it most expensive)
Type: Tricky one - but expect minor disruption like daze / spell pierce / discard
Land: Scrubland
Deck: Esper / Rock
Type: Aggro - expect swords to plowshares
Land: Savannah
Deck: Maverick
Type: Aggro - expect swords to plowshares
Land: Tundra
Deck: Miracles / Esper
Type: Control / aggro - expect swords to plowshares / watch out for karakas / play around counters
Land: Plateau
Deck: ???
Type: Rouge
Land: Gemstone Mine / Cephalid Colosseum / City of Brass
Deck: Dredge / Hypergenesis / TES
Type: Combo / expect discard
Land: island
Deck: High tide / omnitell / Merfolk
Type: combo / control - expect counters
Spell: Aether vial
Deck: Goblins / Death and Taxes / Merfolk / Slivers
Spell: Sensei's divining top
Deck: Miracles / Nic Fit / Combo decks
Spell: Preordain
Deck: High tide / omnitell / ANT (maybe)
Obviously this isn't everything but its a good start. As more cards are revealed you will be able to more easily determine what deck you are playing against.
Play 4 Card Blind!
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Legacy: Dark Depths
EDH: 5-Color Hermit Druid
Currently Brewing: [Deck] Sadistic Sacrament / Chalice NO Eldrazi
why cards are so expensive...hoarders
Having played storm for the most part fairly recently my favorite card has been gitaxian probe in that deck. While it is better in that deck then in this one, the purpose remains the same it tells you what hate to play around.
For example if your opponent boarded in meddling mage, and was already playing force of will you need to know if you're trying to land show and tell vbefore meddling mage, or if you need to win the counter war. This functions the same if you're trying to beat discard and counters or any combination of hate. Also letting you know you can go if is a real thing, i would rather windmill slam turn 1 emrakul knowing it is clear then wait till turn three to find my force.
@ Apple - Thanks for those tips, will print that out. I also printed out your sideboard stuff a few pages back - so you know at least 1 person appreciated your thoughts.
As to the Probe debate:
Probes slots would likely just be filled with more counter magic if it weren't played. I see pros/cons no matter how you do it.
More than anything, I just need to play the deck day in day out, whether that is paper or cockatrice in order to get the experience of Legacy under my belt
At any rate, the dialogue here is good and the answers to my noob questions are much appreciated
For the Invitational this weekend, I hope SnS places well
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I think alot of people appreciate the work that is put into each and every thread. I really do love this deck, but as of late my meta has become so hostile against it that even the one frequent easy wins are near non-existent even over a month. I am still putting up a positive record but the draw of this deck is weaning with all the hate that seems to slowly be creeping its way into EVERY deck I face is making me want to switch my angle and run with something that receives less incidental hate.
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Legacy: Dark Depths
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Currently Brewing: [Deck] Sadistic Sacrament / Chalice NO Eldrazi
why cards are so expensive...hoarders
Apple:
Can you post your decklist?
I will probably rotate between SnS and u/W/R Delver
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