European Legacy Scene: Big Tournaments? Please Contribute

[catmint]

It is sad that there is no "SCG"-like tournament series in Europe. In my opinion the potential would be there , but the language problem and probably a less heteregone [magic] community/culture make it more difficult.

So, I am looking for bigger legacy tournaments in Europe: 60+ people, so we do not have to wait for a BoM or a GP to enjoy a "real" metagame and not the same guys from your city over and over again.

Browsing the web, it is very difficult to find good information about larger tournamnets (potentially UK, Germany, France, Spain or Italy,...), because of the language problem and/or not enough information (price pool, expected players).

So please, post the information about your local tournament series or some special legacy event you know about.


The necessary information would be:

• Date, Place
• Expected Players or average players from previous tournaments.
• Expected Prize Pool
• Link to the website/event.

[xfxf]

Hi catmint, I'm glad someone started such a thread and I really hope that it houses some constructive discussion. I can attest to the language barrier being an important factor. I am living in France for the past 6 months and I don't speak French (although I learned a bit here it's not enough to have a comfortable conversation). I attended the weeklies here for a while and a couple BoM trials, but recently I stopped going there because there was no way I could blend in. Without speaking the language you are always an outsider amongst a group of locals and even people who speak English tend to ignore you once the game is over and continue bonding with their local buddies. The games are a little tenser if your opponent doesn't speak English either, because there are no ice breakers and every confusion about the game state leads to tension.

Having experienced that I think I would be hesitant to travel to a 100-200 player (anything less than the size of a GP to be honest) tournament somewhere in Europe. I'm sure the majority would naturally be locals who know each other and speak the same language and as "outsiders" who don't speak the language and are a minority, you'd struggle having an enjoyable time.

I also imagine travel restrictions being a probem with different visa restrictions and the number of different nationalities. For example, I'm a Turkish citizen and currently I can travel freely within the Schengen zone since I have a residence permit for France. But in a few months I'll be moving to the UK for work and after that I'll need a Visa for each and every European country. If you are living in the States you are free to travel anywhere and this doesn't apply to Europe unfortunately. So yeah, I see these being a problem for establishing something akin to the SCG series.

[catmint]

I would travel to a bigger tournament now and then and stay for a weekend with buddies/wife to check out the city. Now I am thinking about the LCL in Barcelona on the 11th of August.

However concerning a SCG-like tournament series I think you can easily get people to travel a lot more by having attractive prices and incentives to collect "league points" and if it is a big thing and everyone is looking at it constantly as a meta indicator like SCG, you can be sure that all the local scene will be there.

You can also make some small "leagues" within the series. i.e: CEE championsships over 8 weeks stopping in Vienna, Bratislava, Budapest, Zagreb, Prague or a Tour through some cities in a bigger country. I don't know why no magic shop is trying to setup something like this on a european level. With all the side-events & drafts it should be able to break even on the events and make money on sales.


But back to the topic: No responses yet.... I hope there ARE some big events in europe and I would of course collect all the posts to summarize all the tournaments in the initial post, so everyone can get an overview.

[JDK]

The Italian UW Standstill/Miracle top 8 guy from GP Ghent told me there'd be a big Legacy tournament in Milan (in November iirc).

[Piceli89]

The Italian UW Standstill/Miracle top 8 guy from GP Ghent told me there'd be a big Legacy tournament in Milan (in November iirc).

September.

http://www.tipo1.it/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28070

[dunk]

Magiccardmarket is starting to do events in ( east ) germany, if they do well they might become some kind of successor to SCG. Right now I'm sceptical, but the market is as well know as SCG and actually the driving force behind card prices in Europe. I guess they might have the ressources, but either don't care, or lack experience. A friend and I already talked about a possible magiccardmarket series, if the logistics allow it. The biggest problem is that Europe is a bit behind with coverage, once the TO's would do some people would actually recgonize the events and there would be a spike in popularity. Thing is that non native english speakers would have to talk, but I guess people prefer understable coverage with accents to... french coverage.

[catmint]

Yes... we would have to bear with the beatiful german, french and eastern europe accents, but a decent coverage is absolutely necessary!

[JDK]

September.

http://www.tipo1.it/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28070

Thanks. Would anyone mind translating the important parts into English, please?

[catmint]

Yes. That was actually the idea: To collect all regular (and maybe also semi-regular) big european tournaments with all the important data (in english) in 1 thread (& summarized post)...

[kiblast]

Thanks. Would anyone mind translating the important parts into English, please?

there you go:

Following the tipo1.it OP structure

(introduction)

Artists: We're working on getting Mark Tedin (seems like the guy is not answering mails). If Tedin comes, Orizio will be present as well.

21-22-23 Sept 2012

21st: Modern- Sanctioned

Swiss+top8

Entry fee 15 eur Inscriptions 10 am, tournament starting @11 am.

Guaranteed prize pool

1° 16 U Shockland + Set Blood Crypt
2° 20 ZEN Fetchlands
3° Stomping Ground + Godless Shrine
4° Overgrown Tomb + Temple Garden
5° Verdant Catacomb
6° Marsh Flats
7° Arid Mesa
8° Sacred Foundry

INVITATIONAL Tipo1:

Starting 17pm, the best italian Vintage players (upon election on Tipo1.it) will play a small tournament for the Italian Vintage Champion.

+ Trials (Legacy and Vintage trials: entry fee 5 eur,1st wins entry fee for the main event-if you win a legacy trial you get Legacy main event entry fee, same for Vintage- and 1 bye for that main event)

22 Sept

Legacy

Swiss+top16 or Top8 (depending on size of tournament)

Inscription opens at 9:30 am, tournament starts @ 11am

(we advise pre-inscription through tipo1.it or by sending a mail to Stinfo )

Entry fee: 25 eur

Prize pool


1 40 Dual LAND Revised + Set Dark COnfidant FOIL
2 40 Fechtland + Set Wasteland + Set Force of Will
3 10 Dual Land White Border ITA ( 1 each )
4 Set Underground Sea + Set Snapcaster Mage FOIL
5 Set Tropical ISland
6 Set Tundre
7 Set Volcanic ISland
8 Set Tarmogoyf
9 Set Wooded Foothills Foil
10 Set Show And Tell
11 Set Bloodstained Mire FOIL
12 Underground Sea
13 Underground Sea
14 Tropical Island
15 Tundra
16 Savana
17 Taiga
18 Taiga
19 Taiga
20 Set Misty Rainforest
21 Set Scalding Tarn
22 Set Bloodstained Mire
23 Bayou
24 Bayou
25 Set Verdant Catacomb
26 Set Mars Flats
27 Set Mesa Arida
28 Set Swords to Plowshares BB
29 Set Stifle Signed
30 Set Engineered Explosives
31 Set Aether Vial
32 Set Mox Cromo


SPECIAL PRIZE Every round a random player will receive a special prize.
You win just by being there!

1°r Sword of Mind And Body
2°r Mystical Tutor
3°r Bitterblossom
4°r Bitterblossom
5°r Progenitus
6°r Beta Swamp Altered
7°r Selkie FOIL (I guess cold eyed Selkie)
8°r Pernicious deed
9°r Swamp Foil Unhinghed

Side events all day long, entry fee 5 eur

From 20pm Pimp stuff

Playmat bragging (1st prize, special playmat)

Pimp Tournament (should be Vintage)

16 players, 10 eur entry fee. Bring your pimpest stuff, send a mail to Stinfo with a scan of your deck to be able to partecipate.

19pm EDH tournament

Swiss+top 4, no sb, 5 eur entry fee

Prizes

1° Scrubland + Maze of Ith + Rishadan Port Jap
2° Eternal Witness Foil Chinese + Umezawa's Jitte
3° Arcbound Ravager FOIL
4° Rishadan Port Chinese
5° Pernicious Deed
6° Abyssal Persecutor
7° Maelstrom Pulse
8° Iona Shield of Emeria

Special prize for best player in both Legacy and Modern Tournaments.

23 Sept, Vintage

Swiss+top8

Inscription desk open @9:30 am, tournament starts @11 am

25 eur entry fee

1° Set of 5 Mox
2° Black Lotus + TimeTwister
3° Ancestral Recall
4° Time Walk
5° Mox Jet
6° Mox emerald
7° Mox Ruby
8° Mox Pearl
9° Set Polluted Delta
10 Undergroud Sea
11 Set Flooded Strand
12 Set Noble Hierarc
13 Set Wooded Foothills
14 Set Chalice Of The Void + Tolarian Academy
15 Horizon Canopy Foil
16 Horizon Canopy Foil


Budget prizes: for best placed budget decks

(no P9, no bazaar, no Wshop)

1° Ancestral
2° Mana Drain
3° Jace The Mind Sculptor
4° Jace The Mind Sculptor

Unpowered prizes:

(no p9)

1 Set of fow
2 JTMS

Special prizes: (same as for legacy)


1°r Gorilla Shaman Altered
2°r Steel Hellkyte
3°r Inkweel Leviathan Foil
4°r Beta Swamp Altered
5°r Beta Swamp Altered
6°r Lotus Petal FOIL
7°r Vampiric Tutor Foil
8°r Foil Island Altered

Special prize for best eternal player (last year was a beta sea if i'm not mistaken? Dunno about this year.)

Location:

CASA DEI GIOCHI
Via Sant’Uguzzone 8
Milano

How to reach location: http://www.casadeigiochi.eu/index.ph...d=47&Itemid=34

Where to sleep

Hotel Ibis
http://www.ibishotel.com/it/hotel-11...da/index.shtml
Hotel Idea
http://www.initalia.it/hotel/express...lanbicocca.htm

Or just check any B&B or Hotel on Viale Monza, and take the subway to arrive there, it's easy.

Sellers:

INFO VENDITORI

The best collectors/sellers from all over Eu will be there.

Kaiser Soze from TANA DELLE TIGRI

Magic Frag form France

JK-Entertainment: http://www.jk-entertainment.de/

TROPPORICCO

Brian from Japan

Konqueror

Alban Lauter

The Mons


More or less all the infos are here. Send a mail to Stinfo for more infos and to pre inscript yourself for any tournament. stinfo@tiscali.it

Hope this helps, sorry for the poor editing but it took a while and I need to go to sleep as I'm working in 6 hrs.

Hope I see some of you there. It will be amazing.

[JDK]

Thank you very much! Looks promising and I am strongly considering to go there. :)

[spartan117]

Thank you very much! Looks promising and I am strongly considering to go there. :)

Philipp seems quite interested too, hope you'll come to the event

[Finn]

I wonder why Starcity does not just do the European tournaments themselves. It could be lack of resources. The crew work pretty hard keeping up with what they are doing now so Pete would have to train up a second crew and move them around Europe, get them all visas, arrange for lodging and convention rooms in a dozen foreign nations. Ah. Maybe I do know why.

[xfxf]

They could try to do a European leg of their Invitational Qualifier series. You know, the local store just takes up the franchise..

[Einherjer]

Philipp seems quite interested too, hope you'll come to the event

I will come. Mates are already gathered(atleast some) and a car(driver) might be found already. Hotel to go next and I can promise :)

Greetings

[catmint]

I'll be there as well...! this thread already paid off.
Maybe we should just get a subforum for european scene, with some sticky threads for regular big tournaments and normal tournament announcements like this.

[Hopo]

I will most likely attend as well, as kiblast advertised this to me earlier. Good to see more high profile tournaments in Europe as well.

[TkDodo]

I would love to attend as well, but I'm not in Europe for this tournament :(
Please keep up the good work and post more tournaments if you know any!

[Philipp2293]

Applied for holidays on friday and monday. Hopefully I get those days approved and also I hope I can make some guys from vienna join.

[Julian23]

In September, there's a WPN Premium Tournament in Nuremberg, Germany. 4 rounds of each Modern and Legacy with an insane amount of booster displays for the entire Top8. We expect around 70-80 players to attend.

Only downside? You have to first qualify by top4'ing one of the weekly Legacy events there. Glad I already did several times :D