[Deck] Turbo Depths

[Purple Blood]

Since I'm too cheap to shell out for Sylvan Library I'm deciding between Abundant Harvest and OUAT as a replacement in the GW KOTR build. Thoughts?

[Mr. Safety]

Since I'm too cheap to shell out for Sylvan Library I'm deciding between Abundant Harvest and OUAT as a replacement in the GW KOTR build. Thoughts?

I would go with OUAT for sure. Mana isn't an issue and setting up early for free is very good. It gives you better selection.

[Listlik]

Is GB Depths completely dead currently?

[Mr. Safety]

No, it still puts up the occasional result. Here is the most recent results on mtgtop8:

http://www.mtgtop8.com/archetype?a=555&meta=39&f=LE

The metagame is currently pretty hostile though, especially with Prismatic Ending being another efficient answer to Marit Lage. Uro keeping life totals above 20 is another bad sign. If I were to bring this to a tournament soon, and I might, I would want additional ways to get Marit Lage through. Rancor and possibly main deck Rite of Consumption. I also think in general Dark Confidant is better than Not of this World in the main deck. My current build plays 3 Bobs main and 3 NotW in the sideboard for Prismatic Ending. I am also biting the bullet and playing 2x main deck Abrupt Decay. The deck isn't ideally placed, but you can make adjustments and still do well if you have a lot of experience with the deck.

[Mr Miagi]

these days I think hogaak depths is the way to go if you want to play bg depths

[malekith]

Check here this GW Depths (no turbo):

https://mtgtop8.com/event?e=32260&d=448321&f=LE

It was created by a well-known Spanish player (Togores)

[michaeljhonson]

Hello i am new here. Thank you so much for letting me in here I hope of learning more here.

[Vacrix]

A card I've stumbled upon recently I thought I might mention.

Restore

It can 'reanimate' your own used fetchlands.
It can steal opposing on color used fetchlands from an opponent's graveyard. It can also recur a nonbasic destroyed by your own Wasteland.
If the opponent Wastelands your Depths or Thespian Stage, Restore can return the piece.
Further, Restore can return your Wasteland, or your opponent's Wastelands. That's comparable to Sinkhole at 1G, reuse my own or my opponents Wasteland. Sinkhole could perhaps even complement Wasteland and Restore to max those effects, if more land control is preferred.
Stealing an opponent's land outside of Wasteland could even be Dark Depths in the mirror.
Less relevant, stealing non-fetch lands reduces Threshold and Delve.

Restore plays well with Crop Rotation and Mox Diamond, and fetchlands, Elvish Reclaimer, Knight of the Reliquary, Sylvan Safekeeper... ontop of just being efficient against and with Wasteland. Further, the combo puts Dark Depths in the yard anyway; if Marit Lage is removed, then Restore can return Dark Depths or Thespian Stage.

Restore could enable cards like Entomb to bin Dark Depths or Thespian Stage. Entomb can also bin Life from the Loam. Not sure this matters, but I figured I'd mention it.

Restore at 1G is comparable to Ramunap Excavator at 2G. Perhaps Depths.dec would prefer Ramunap Excavator since it sticks around for multiple uses. I would think Excavator would pair with Exploration where more lands can be played from the graveyard, meaning double Wasteland, fetchland twice, etc.

[jmlima]

I had never seen a Mono-B depths, is this any good? (well, it must be, there are several 5-0s with this and variations, also , chains aside it's a really budget deck):

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4565483#online

[z0anthr0pe]

That deck also incorporates the Leyline of the void / Helm of obedience combo. You have to weigh up if it's worth having 2 plans in the one deck, or going flat out for the Dark Depths OR helm combo plan. There are instances of both decks which focus on 1 plan and doing ok. Sometimes the helm combo is a good sideboard plan.

[Mr. Safety]

It's been a little while since I really dug into legacy, but a new LGS opened up recently and we had our inaugural legacy weekly today. I'm not an online player, I only do paper. I played a fairly traditional BG Turbo version, no rainbow lands or Stifle/Flusterstorm. I couldn't get a Boseiju before the event, so I just played a maindeck Dryad Arbor. Four rounds, I went 3-1, beating a mono-green Tooth and Nail homebrew, Mono-red Painter, and Grixis Death's Shadow. My loss came against another mono-red Painter player. Maindeck Boseiju would have been pretty good in the painter matchup. I just put together a streamlined fast list with some grind tools in the board.

List:
4x Vampire Hexmage
4x Elvish Spirit Guide
4x Lotus Petal
4x Pithing Needle
4x Crop Rotation
4x Sylvan Scrying
4x Thoughtseize
3x Duress
3x Not of this World
1x Rancor
4x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
4x Verdant Catacombs
1x Bayou
2x Blooming Marsh
1x Forest
1x Swamp
1x Ghost Quarter
1x Bojuka Bog
1x Sejiri Steppe
1x Dryad Arbor
4x Thespian's Stage
4x Dark Depths

Sideboard
2x Sylvan Safekeeper
2x Plague Engineer
2x Sylvan Library
2x Rite of Consumption
2x Assassin's Trophy
2x Force of Vigor
2x Surgical Extraction
1x Karakas


Changes I will be making moving forward: cutting Arbor for Boseiju, easy swap once I get ahold of one. I also swapped out the Blooming Marshes for Nurturing Peatland, a definite upgrade. My biggest reason for the fetches/basics was to play around Blood Moon, which is always prevalent in my area. It defintely paid off, and overall the basics are better than having Stifle/Flusterstorm. The fetches help shuffle with sideboard Libraries as well.

Felt good to be playing cards again! Hope everyone gets a chance to get back into in-person Legacy.

[Mr. Safety]

New list:

-2 Blooming Marsh
+2 Nurturing peatland

-1 Not of this world
+1 Life from the loam

-1 dryad arbor
+1 Boseiju

List feels strong, may cut the Rancor. Not sure if I still need the Dryad Arbor in the 75, there isn't a lot of Edict effects currently. I could also Sideboard in the Safekeepers to help in that regard.

[Barthalamou]

Is there a specific reason you're running rancor? It seems like a lot of the flyers I see would require two attacks regardless. ie Ledger Shredder, Murktide

[Mr. Safety]

It was originally to trample over delvers, but also to create a significant threat with Hexmage. Maybe it's time to drop it, I really don't have a lot of Delver in my local metagame. Not sure what I would replace it with, maybe a 1-of Elvish Reclaimer. Thanks for the note.

[Barthalamou]

This is the list I've been running. No forest to dodge submerge. Tower of the Magistrate is a flex spot that has previously been Life from the Loam, Rite of Consumption, Duress. This weekend I top 8 a local team 10k with this list.
In the sideboard I've been going back and forth between Plague Engineer, Leyline of the Void, and Massacre. There are a good number of experienced lands players in my local meta so I've been considering building the sideboard more against that matchup.

1 Bojuka Bog
1 Boseiju, Who Endures
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Sejiri Steppe
1 Tower of the Magistrate
1 Swamp
2 Gemstone Mine
2 Nurturing Peatland
3 Duress
3 Not of This World
4 Dark Depths
4 Darkbore Pathway // Slitherbore Pathway
4 Thespian's Stage
4 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
4 Crop Rotation
4 Lotus Petal
4 Pithing Needle
4 Sylvan Scrying
4 Thoughtseize
4 Elvish Spirit Guide
4 Vampire Hexmage

Sideboard (15)
2 Abrupt Decay
2 Collector Ouphe
2 Force of Vigor
1 Karakas
2 Plague Engineer
2 Rite of Consumption
2 Surgical Extraction
2 Sylvan Safekeeper

[CyrusBales]

I'm a big fan of Depths decks and run it a lot on my dedicated Legacy content YouTube channel.

Most recently I wanted to try out some more protection spells, so added 2 Safekeeper MD alongside the 4 Not of this World. My conclusion was that I wouldn't run this deck right now without the 4 Not of This World in the main, but the safekeeper didn't really do much MD. Next time I think I'll try out a 1 of Tamiyo's Safekeeping and run the Steely Resolve in the SB, which is an option I always used to like back in the day.

For those interested, here's the most recent league with Turbo depths I ran: https://youtu.be/WDCQOL39dDc


(Also, for december, I did #Depthcember, running lots of weird depths decks which might appeal to all 20/20 enthusiasts out there, that is all in one playlist)

[z0anthr0pe]

I like this deck style too. Is the nurturing peatland worth splashing out on? I've 2 bayous and both darkbore and overgrown tomb...