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    Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
    So you flip Origins' Jace and -3 targeting FoW. Since it's not technically flashback, you can skip paying 5 and just exile a blue card and pay 1 life?

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    Re: Jacecaster Mage (Vryn's Prodigy) and Force of Will

    "You may cast target instant or sorcery card from your graveyard this turn."

    Sounds like you can cast it however it allows you to cast it.

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    Re: Jacecaster Mage (Vryn's Prodigy) and Force of Will

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    Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
    So you flip Origins' Jace and -3 targeting FoW. Since it's not technically flashback, you can skip paying 5 and just exile a blue card and pay 1 life?
    I guess Jace, Telepath Unbound doesn't work?

    Since JTU's effect just says that you can cast the card, you can pay alternate costs to cast it.

    Effects like Flashback are structured as alternate costs, and you can only pay one alternate cost for a spell - so you don't have the option of an alternate cost when using Flashback, just the Flashback cost.
    “It's possible. But it involves... {checks archives} Nature's Revolt, Opalescence, two Unstable Shapeshifters (one of which started as a Doppelganger), a Tide, an animated land, a creature with Fading, a Silver Wyvern, some way to get a creature into play in response to stuff, some way to get a land into play in response to stuff (a different land from the animated land), and one heck of a Rube Goldberg timing diagram.
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    Re: Jacecaster Mage (Vryn's Prodigy) and Force of Will

    I'm assuming you can also pay alternate costs for Abbot of Keral Keep then too?

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    Yep. So long as the effect has you playing the card and is not imposing its own alternate cost ala Flashback or "without paying its mana cost" (zero is an alternate cost).
    “It's possible. But it involves... {checks archives} Nature's Revolt, Opalescence, two Unstable Shapeshifters (one of which started as a Doppelganger), a Tide, an animated land, a creature with Fading, a Silver Wyvern, some way to get a creature into play in response to stuff, some way to get a land into play in response to stuff (a different land from the animated land), and one heck of a Rube Goldberg timing diagram.
    -David DeLaney

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    Re: Jacecaster Mage (Vryn's Prodigy) and Force of Will

    Oh Abbot ought to be fun with Massacre.

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