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    The colors on Saheeli's metal, I wonder if we are going to be heading back to "Colourless matters" again. I do hope so.
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    This card seems... pretty sweet actually?
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    Re: Kaladesh -or- When Kiran met Pia

    Can any MUD style decks play that? It is a form of consistency..

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    Re: Kaladesh -or- When Kiran met Pia

    'No returning mechanics in Kaladesh' even though that is clearly Metalcraft...

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    Re: Kaladesh -or- When Kiran met Pia

    Seems pretty awesome with CoW (which also helps enabling Metalcraft), plus it can find CoW, assuming you control enough artifacts to activate it. Effectively 5 mana is a hefty price, though.

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    Re: Kaladesh -or- When Kiran met Pia

    I'd assume MUD wants 1 or 2. The 4 Wasteland/Factory slots can be awkward for the deck, so this could go in that space.

    Fingers crossed for a new Sol Land or Locus!

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    Its the same as the Monarch-Land: Far too expensive to pull off and in this case even restricted to Metalcraft. Whilewe are at it: Why isn't Metalcraft a thing for this set in the first place? Would have made an amazing natural fit on this plane. Fuck you WotC
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemnear View Post
    Its the same as the Monarch-Land: Far too expensive to pull off and in this case even restricted to Metalcraft. Whilewe are at it: Why isn't Metalcraft a thing for this set in the first place? Would have made an amazing natural fit on this plane. Fuck you WotC
    Does anything make you happy? I mean, this is a card likely to see play in decks that run SOL lands, so far too expensive seems bad, it gives you life in decks that take damage off of Tomb and it gives you a chance to tutor. MUD might now be a deck much these days, but fuck this slots right into that without an issue.
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    I like it, one off could be sweet in mud, life gain is rather slow (in terms of amount gained and metalcraft requirement), but a welcoming part of this card. Hoping for some new MUD toys. More locus lands would be awesome

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    Does anything make you happy? I mean, this is a card likely to see play in decks that run SOL lands, so far too expensive seems bad, it gives you life in decks that take damage off of Tomb and it gives you a chance to tutor. MUD might now be a deck much these days, but fuck this slots right into that without an issue.
    To convert lands into more artifacts, Buried Ruins is superior in MUD and it doesn't require you to have a field full of artifacts in the first place which should mean you are winning anyways. Metalcraft is a bitch otherwise we would see Opal Mox or Etched Champion played more. There are plenty of colorless options in MUD for 4 mana to create cardadvantage, just to note. At this point, we are not even talking about the Locus+SolLand MUD manabase which can run eye of Ugin or Sea Gate Wreckage. For me, this card is a Legendary Buried Ruin which does not recycle a destroyed Artifact, but gets a new from your library. What is the most broken stuff it can do? Get a Chalice @ 0 on turn 3?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew View Post
    'No returning mechanics in Kaladesh' even though that is clearly Metalcraft...
    Yeah I noticed that right away. It could just be that one land that does a "3 or more" count, so maybe it isn't worth bringing back a whole non-evergreen keyword for just one card?
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    I would argue that tutoring it more powerful than graveyard recursion and intermediate life gain is not nothing.
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    It's a very good card. You just don't get three abilities on a land and of course it is a tutor on a land which is outlandishly useful. Don't sweat the artifact requirement. You aren't going to have five mana to activate it unless you have plenty of permanents anyway. Also, the fact that it sacrifices itself is kinda cool considering it is legendary. You can safely go to three of them if your deck is constructed properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    Can any MUD style decks play that? It is a form of consistency..
    Seems like a card for lantern control. I don't think there are any prominent grindy artifact decks in legacy.

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    Legacy having access to the full suite of artifact lands can't hurt this card.

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    I would argue that tutoring it more powerful than graveyard recursion and intermediate life gain is not nothing.
    I'm not sure 'more powerful' is the right phrase considering that recursion allows stuff like slaver locks. It's more that tutoring is an enabler, and recursion is a finisher; so they have different roles.

    Fundamentally, the issue with Inventors' Fair is how expensive and conditional the ability is to activate.

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    Vehicles and the energy mechanic are going to be interesting. Fabricate is the coolest +1/+1 counter throwaway mechanic they've had in a while too.

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    Another new symbol and card frame. This shit feels like its getting over saturated real fast. But whatever I'm such a sucker for artifacts that I'll take stupid mechanics if I get more.

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    Saheeli is basically a 3 CMC blue Nahiri, I wouldn't sleep on that.


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