Amonkhet, a new Plane for the next Block

[Noctalor]

To be honest someone sent me the picture via WhatsApp, so it could be a fake.

[Plm]

I don't understand the hype for bicycle, I picked the last comment about them, but I've read multiple exemple of spoiler madness in the thread already.

They're Horizon Canopies that you can fetch and that don't cost you life. You don't want to replace the duals with them, but they'll be 1-2 of in a lot of decks that aren't blue tempo.

In synergy with daze, they can be slower horizon canopies that you can fetch but as they CIPT you don't play them in blue tempo shell, ok I get that but isn't blue tempo the home of daze ?

So you can't cycle them from play unless you play daze (or waste yourself and loam them back, not the most tempoish play) but they don't go in daze shell . This is not on par with duals, not even close guys.

[Bed Decks Palyer]

Like why obfuscate the card names? They all look like those shitty chat room names from the AOL 3.0 days. Cards today be like ,.-~*'Spell Pierce'*~-.,

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\\\ avon midcensor 2W ///
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[kirkusjones]

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\\\ avon midcensor 2W ///
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It all makes sense. The Invocations are guerilla marketing for Magic: The Goening.

[Megadeus]

I can't imagine cycle duals changing anything. Seems pretty mediocre to me. Maybe modern now can have an aggro loam deck, but still seems bad there.

[Noctalor]

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\\\ avon midcensor 2W ///
'''''''''''''\---;; - ;;---/''''''''''''''

Decided to waste 5 mins on photoshop

[rufus]

I wonder how well ASCII art cards would go over as super rare chase objects.

[H]

I wonder how well ASCII art cards would go over as super rare chase objects.

Are they foil?

[phonics]

Decided to waste 5 mins on photoshop

You seem to be missing some of the key WOTC design vocabulary, I fixed it up for you so should be good to go straight to the printing press now.

[Noctalor]

Seems like we are getting somewhere

[Ronald Deuce]

I was starting to think this thread couldn't get any better. I was wrong.

Also, Phonics, needs more lens fla- I mean, foiling.

[EDIT: And could you make the art a bit smaller?]

[slave]

Wizards and printing meaningful hate don't go into the same sentence anymore. Try it again in a year or so.

I feel like I'm fallin for an April fools here - but gravehate has been pretty damn effective over the last few years.

I'm not seeing anything that really interests me just yet.

[Bed Decks Palyer]

Seems like we are getting somewhere

If only the original card was a split-flip-flop doublefacepenetration one. We could be doing design wonders with such a wonder of design.

edit:
Also, following the Arabain Nights, Theros and Amokhnet, time has come for another one real-world-mythology based set. Magic palyers, get ready for Gift from Galilee (TM)

[Lord Seth]

I feel like I'm fallin for an April fools here - but gravehate has been pretty damn effective over the last few years.

Not in Standard it hasn't. If they had bothered printing some kind of playable graveyard hate, Emrakul wouldn't have been a problem.

I think Shamble Back of all things is the best graveyard hate in Standard at the moment.

[morgan_coke]

So, looking at the article on the cycle duals again, and the line about Astral Slide and Lightning Rift not fitting because of templating, I looked at Archfiend of Ifnir again, and something stood out to me.

"Whenever you cycle or discard"

vs.

"Whenever a player cycles"

If all the "triggers on cycling" effects are worded like that, the following cards might be due for a large spike shortly: Nahiri, the Harbinger, Key to the City, Collective Brutality, Geier Reach Sanitarium, there are other standard legal cards that could get a play-ability bounce, but they aren't rare or played enough to matter.

[Lemnear]

So, looking at the article on the cycle duals again, and the line about Astral Slide and Lightning Rift not fitting because of templating, I looked at Archfiend of Ifnir again, and something stood out to me.

"Whenever you cycle or discard"

vs.

"Whenever a player cycles"

If all the "triggers on cycling" effects are worded like that, the following cards might be due for a large spike shortly: Nahiri, the Harbinger, Key to the City, Collective Brutality, Geier Reach Sanitarium, there are other standard legal cards that could get a play-ability bounce, but they aren't rare or played enough to matter.

What you are hinting at is some form of a new pseudo-madness, which can be triggered by itself (cycling) or by feeding it to other cards (like your mentioned collective brutality). This would be far too strong to be printed that way as I have like a dozen cards in mind, which would just wait for such a Mechanic to ever happen as discarding it would cheat on the Cycling cost.

Just imagine a Divination with 2UU cycling cost to draw 2 with the "cycle OR discard" clause. Absurd

Sry for quoting the whole block.

[morgan_coke]

What you are hinting at is some form of a new pseudo-madness, which can be triggered by itself (cycling) or by feeding it to other cards (like your mentioned collective brutality). This would be far too strong to be printed that way as I have like a dozen cards in mind, which would just wait for such a Mechanic to ever happen as discarding it would cheat on the Cycling cost.

Just imagine a Divination with 2UU cycling cost to draw 2 with the "cycle OR discard" clause. Absurd

Sry for quoting the whole block.

I agree it would be stupid and broken, but that has never stopped wizards from doing it before, I can't think of another issue with Slide and Rift's templating that could stop them from being reprinted, and the only card we've seen with that effect is worded that way. If they all cost 5+ like Archfiend does, it's not a huge issue, but we haven't seen the cards yet, so who knows. There's also no guarantee that there are reprints of Slide and Rift with that templating, we could be in for something else entirely.

[Claymore]

They'll put the Slide effect on a creature probably. They'll put fluctuator on a creature too (1 less to cycle). Any build around permanents will be 4cc+.

You could probably analyze the past few sets since Khans/Theros or whatever and find the formula they're using to build sets now.

[rufus]

...Any build around permanents will be 4cc+....

Inspiring Statuary is a potential build-around at 3. Winding Constrictor is at 2.

Obvious combo engine cards are going to be 4cc+, but who knows what the FFL will miss.

[Barook]

Morgan Coke was right with his prediction:



This mechanic has potential to be pretty powerful on the right cards.

Also, the first God card was revealed - no Devotion, but still conditional in some way: