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    Re: [DTB] U/R Delver

    looks like the banhammer will fall pretty soon right ?

    the deck was everywhere in last challenge

    maybe with endurance maindeck some decks will stand a chance

    or engineered explosives for one an other weakness
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    Re: [DTB] U/R Delver

    Alright, well, it's basically weekend one. So, yeah, obviously strong, but lets at least see how the meta shapes up before before making de facto calls for bans, maybe?

    I mean, yeah, we know Delver decks were already doing well, but still, the meta will shift. It already shifted from Saturday to Sunday.
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    anyway we'll have to wait wizard sells his product before bans,

    but yeah meta can shift a little, but between saturday and sunday lists weren't published right ? so there can't be an adaptation

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrieng View Post
    anyway we'll have to wait wizard sells his product before bans,

    but yeah meta can shift a little, but between saturday and sunday lists weren't published right ? so there can't be an adaptation
    Multiple tweets and streams showed the affinity deck as destroying stuff without adequate sideboard tech. But delver is bullshit so they only had to add a few dedicated hate cards (meltdown/extra null rods) to win on Sunday.

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    Re: [DTB] U/R Delver

    This is way too early to call for a ban. The metagame can adjust. It's just very popular now.

    Other decks can have favorable matchups vs Delver. But when an event has 26% Delver players, the deck just needs >50% win rate to have a decent chance one of them wins. The guy who won went 6-0 vs UR mirror, 1-1 vs Affinity, 0-1 vs Lands. That's not even a positive win rate vs Affinity. It just crushed the mirror.

    The current builds are softer to Chalice decks than past UR Delver builds. They skewed in a specific direction to fight the mirrors. Prison also slows down Affinity. There could be potential there to fight back. But I think everyone was excited to try out the new cards.

    AnziD's Bant Miracles beat UR Delver all day on Saturday, only losing 0-2 to Affinity.

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    Re: [DTB] U/R Delver

    I am not in the business of statistical analysis, but consider the numbers here, UR Delver had a pretty terrible seeming conversion rate, as far as I can tell. While eschatology is fun and all, it's been one weekend. Lets see what happens next week, now that people "know" that 25% or so of the meta is UR Delver.
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    Re: [DTB] U/R Delver

    Way too early to call for bans but the issue I see with UR Delver is its basically getting to the point that there is the perfect amount of redundant cards (as a result of new pitch counters and 1 CMC creatures being printed) where the deck just becomes a redundancy machine. Due to MH1 and 2, they can run exactly the desired amount of cantrips, 1 CMC beaters, free counters, etc.. The only thing they are missing is a "fixed" Wasteland and Daze so they can decide how many copies (5-8) to run.

    The new UW affinity deck can easily get checked by artifact hate but I'm not really sure how you can hate out the sheer efficiency of UR Delver that now gets to run up to 12 Delvers and up to 12 free counters if they want. Before Chalice was a good check but its really not that much of a check when you have so many free counters such that you can almost always answer their 4 copies of Chalice.

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