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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by dte View Post
    I guess we should consider banning Curse of Silence from it. It looks like it is between thoughtseize and Cabal therapy.
    Perhaps we should. We can put that up to vote. It is very stupid.
    I would say let's put it onto the definitive banned list. Let me know what you guys think.
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    @Silk: not to point out inconsistencies, but now you have one MU where you counter artefacts (WoP, and I guess that should be 0-6), one where you edited can into cannot, and one when you didn't (or you should WL against me).

    And beautiful Mud deck, especially with masticore SB.

    @Asthereal, +1 for the permanent banned list.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Deadline has passed, and I'm missing a few, among whom FTW. Also I have an illegal entry who I've sent a PM.
    I'll give you guys a bit more time.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Curse of Silence, should probably be permanently banned. It's 90% Cabal Therapy, only worse against decks that can make a lot of mana to get around it.

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    I think it should probably be banned, I think there's no doubt it outclasses the other legal 1 mana discard options.

    If we're talking perma-bans, I'd suggest Grief as a strong candidate. Unmask is a good card anyway, and the fact one can use Undying Evil or Ephemerate to get additional discard and a body out of it seems well over the top.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    I vote to ban Curse of Silence too.
    Also submitted my deck.

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    I like the concept behind Curse of Silence in encouraging slower storage-land options, but the cyclical metagame that would result wouldn't be that great.

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    I also second PJim for grief.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    I'm less concerned about Grief because it becomes an entire deck archetype.

    To be any better than Unmask it takes all 4 cards:
    BW land, Grief, black card, Ephemerate/Undying Evil

    Is that any more broken than other T1 combos that aren't perma-banned?
    City of Traitors, Lotus Petal, Induced Amnesia is only 3 cards
    Mountain, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Barbed Shocker is 4 cards
    Both shut down even more than the Grief deck can

    If all-in T1 combos aren't permabanned, Grief seems fine. In "fair" mode it's just Unmask.

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    I thought Induced Amnesia was on the basic banned list.

    Grief is actually fine because of the all-in nature required to make it actually better than Unmask, as FTW mentioned.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by FTW View Post
    I'm less concerned about Grief because it becomes an entire deck archetype.

    To be any better than Unmask it takes all 4 cards:
    BW land, Grief, black card, Ephemerate/Undying Evil
    Reanimate is likely always the best option.

    Quote Originally Posted by FTW View Post
    Is that any more broken than other T1 combos that aren't perma-banned?
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    If all-in T1 combos aren't permabanned, Grief seems fine. In "fair" mode it's just Unmask.
    Grief is definitely better, exactly because it is not all-in. Amnesia (should still be on the permanent list)/shoker lose to counters, and WL vs discard/moon/sphere, like all-in decks should, while grief beats moon, almost any FoW.deck or other counters, and likely WD vs discard or sphere.

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    I also vote to ban Curse of Silence.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Looks pretty unanimous. Curse is out. I'll add it to the list.
    Also, I think I now have all the decks I can expect, so let's post some decks!


    DECKS FOR ROUND 13 OF SEASON 10: Deviant Legacy Bannathon

    This round we play The Long Haul: Players start at 100 life. Effects that would make you win the game immediately instead do nothing.

    The entries:
    1. Asthereal (TO): Savannah, Durkwood Baloth, Durkwood Baloth, Reciprocate
    2. dte: smallpox, memnite, phyrexian tower, Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
    3. Wrath of Pie: Mountain, Dwarven Ruins, Blood Moon, Keldon Halberdier
    4. alphastryk: Swamp, Encroach, Cauldron Familiar, Witch's Oven
    5. Reeplcheep: Scrubland, Cry of Contrition, Serra Ascendant, Serra Ascendent
    6. PJim: Stomping Ground, Orcish Lumberjack, Aluren, Acererak the Archlich
    7. GoblinSmashmaster: Forest, Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Berserk
    8. silkster: Scrubland, Inkmoth Nexus, Judge's Familiar, Mesmeric Fiend
    9. jhhdk: Pendelhaven, Inkmoth Nexus, Blight Mamba, Melira, Sylvok outcast
    10. maxx!: Swamp, Putrid Imp, Reanimate, Archon of Cruelty
    11. FTW: Swamp, Inkmoth Nexus, Fatal Push, Mesmeric Fiend
    12. RoosterCocoa: Swamp, Encroach, Hangarback Walker, Mishra's Factory

    Please post your scores and cross-check with the opponents.
    You can also enter your scores in the Google Spreadsheet for the season which you can find here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    1. Asthereal (TO): Savannah, Durkwood Baloth, Durkwood Baloth, Reciprocate
    OTP Encroach takes Savannah for the win, OTD I can't beat 2 large threats. WL

    3-3

    2. dte: smallpox, memnite, phyrexian tower, Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
    OTP Encroach wins it, OTD Smallpox loop is too strong. WL

    3-3

    3. Wrath of Pie: Mountain, Dwarven Ruins, Blood Moon, Keldon Halberdier
    Blood Moon & Encroach don't do a lot here, and Cat + Oven can block scan forever to blank the Halberier. WW

    6-0

    4. alphastryk: Swamp, Encroach, Cauldron Familiar, Witch's Oven
    This is me, hoping to see a lot of greedy mana slow decks.

    5. Reeplcheep: Scrubland, Cry of Contrition, Serra Ascendant, Serra Ascendent
    Serra Ascendent is such an insane threat in this format, can't believe I forgot about it. OTP Encroach does the job, OTD I get crushed by Ascendent. WL

    3-3

    6. PJim: Stomping Ground, Orcish Lumberjack, Aluren, Acererak the Archlich
    OTP Encroach wins it, OTD I can't beat turbo Alluren. WL

    3-3

    7. GoblinSmashmaster: Forest, Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Berserk
    EDIT - if I block I can't sacrifice without taking 10 trample poison, and if I don't sacrifice my loop ends. LL

    0-6

    8. silkster: Scrubland, Inkmoth Nexus, Judge's Familiar, Mesmeric Fiend
    OTP Encroach takes Scrubland for the win, OTD (EDIT) Familiar counters Encroach and Inkmoth races me. WL

    3-3

    9. jhhdk: Pendelhaven, Inkmoth Nexus, Blight Mamba, Melira, Sylvok outcast
    Encroach always takes one of your lands and prevents you from producing a threat. WW

    6-0

    10. maxx!: Swamp, Putrid Imp, Reanimate, Archon of Cruelty
    Encroach does nothing, and Archon destroys me. LL

    0-6

    11. FTW: Swamp, Inkmoth Nexus, Fatal Push, Mesmeric Fiend
    OTP Encroach takes Inkmoth which takes away both your threats, OTD I can't beat Fiend. WL

    3-3

    12. RoosterCocoa: Swamp, Encroach, Hangarback Walker, Mishra's Factory
    OTP Encroach takes Factory to prevent both your threats, OTD you can play Factory out before I can Encroach it, but even if you get both threats in play I can always chump block Walker and sacrifice my Cat, and the 2 life drain there offsets the 2 life lost from Factory attacking. You're first able to get through with Factory on your turn 3, and I'm able to start looping cat on my turn 2 so I think you just barely win that race. WL

    3-3

    Total: 33 points
    Last edited by alphastryk; 09-24-2021 at 08:00 AM.

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    5. Reeplcheep: Scrubland, Cry of Contrition, Serra Ascendant, Serra Ascendent
    Went with a boring 2 6/6s and a way to not fold to combo

    The entries:
    1. Asthereal (TO): Savannah, Durkwood Baloth, Durkwood Baloth, Reciprocate
    You lose the race even without me using cry. WW 6-0

    2. dte: smallpox, memnite, phyrexian tower, Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
    Discard based combo wrecks me LL 0-6

    3. Wrath of Pie: Mountain, Dwarven Ruins, Blood Moon, Keldon Halberdier
    My threat is better than yours. WW 6-0

    4. alphastryk: Swamp, Encroach, Cauldron Familiar, Witch's Oven
    Get encroached. WL 3-3
    6. PJim: Stomping Ground, Orcish Lumberjack, Aluren, Acererak the Archlich
    4 card combo gets cried. WW 6-0

    7. GoblinSmashmaster: Forest, Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Berserk
    You canít win but beserk will let you hold a draw. DD 2-2

    8. silkster: Scrubland, Inkmoth Nexus, Judge's Familiar, Mesmeric Fiend
    Serra beats your entire board but I need 2 to make progress. WD 4-1

    9. jhhdk: Pendelhaven, Inkmoth Nexus, Blight Mamba, Melira, Sylvok outcast
    I believe I can win the race here. Not sure though. ??

    10. maxx!: Swamp, Putrid Imp, Reanimate, Archon of Cruelty
    Discard proof combo :( LL 0-6

    11. FTW: Swamp, Inkmoth Nexus, Fatal Push, Mesmeric Fiend
    Push always trades with on aspirant and then I canít win the race. DD 2-2

    12. RoosterCocoa: Swamp, Encroach, Hangarback Walker, Mishra's Factory
    Without a way to sack the walker you lose the race. WL 3-3

    Lost a bunch of points to using cry instead of expropriate or funeral charm

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    1. Asthereal (TO): Savannah, Durkwood Baloth, Durkwood Baloth, Reciprocate
    6-0. Memnite smash!
    6

    2. dte: smallpox, memnite, phyrexian tower, Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
    Me, trying again a pox iteration. But this time it works! And also taking the title seriously, the long haul: no possible win before 101 turns.

    3. Wrath of Pie: Mountain, Dwarven Ruins, Blood Moon, Keldon Halberdier
    6-0. Memnite smash!
    12

    4. alphastryk: Swamp, Encroach, Cauldron Familiar, Witch's Oven
    3-3, Encroach or memnite.
    15

    5. Reeplcheep: Scrubland, Cry of Contrition, Serra Ascendant, Serra Ascendent
    6-0. Memnite smash!
    21

    6. PJim: Stomping Ground, Orcish Lumberjack, Aluren, Acererak the Archlich
    6-0. Memnite smash!
    27

    7. GoblinSmashmaster: Forest, Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Berserk
    6-0. Memnite smash!
    33

    8. silkster: Scrubland, Inkmoth Nexus, Judge's Familiar, Mesmeric Fiend
    0-6. Cannot beat that. OTD familiar kills me, OTP, discarding familiar if I play SP wins for you.
    33

    9. jhhdk: Pendelhaven, Inkmoth Nexus, Blight Mamba, Melira, Sylvok outcast
    6-0. Memnite smash!
    39

    10. maxx!: Swamp, Putrid Imp, Reanimate, Archon of Cruelty
    6-0. Memnite smash!
    45

    11. FTW: Swamp, Inkmoth Nexus, Fatal Push, Mesmeric Fiend
    2-2, we stare.
    47

    12. RoosterCocoa: Swamp, Encroach, Hangarback Walker, Mishra's Factory
    3-3, Encroach vs memnite duel.
    50

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    12. RoosterCocoa: Swamp, Encroach, Hangarback Walker, Mishra's Factory

    1. Asthereal (TO): Savannah, Durkwood Baloth, Durkwood Baloth, Reciprocate
    OTP Encroach takes your land. OTD you get a Baloth on turn 6 and the second on turn 7. Hangarback Walker is a 6/6 by your turn 8, which is too fast for you to kill me. I then just keep it on defense and make it larger until it can kill you in one attack. WW

    2. dte: smallpox, memnite, phyrexian tower, Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
    OTP Encroach takes your land. OTD I don't play anything until you Smallpox, and I then discard Encroach. Your deck from top to bottom is Ulamog, Smallpox, Phyrexian Tower, and Memnite. On my turn I play Swamp. You then draw Ulamog. On my next turn I play Mishra's Factory and a 1/1 Hangarback. You then draw Smallpox. On my next turn I make Hangarback a 2/2. You then draw Phyrexian Tower. On my next turn I make Hangarback a 3/3. You draw Memnite and play Smallpox, and I sacrifice Hangarback and Swamp, giving me 3 1/1 tokens. I won't be able to get enough damage through before you eventually kill all of my tokens, even if I animate Mishra's Factory to sacrifice it as the creature for Smallpox, so I lose. WL

    3. Wrath of Pie: Mountain, Dwarven Ruins, Blood Moon, Keldon Halberdier
    Blood Moon and Encroach don't do much, and I can get Hangarback Walker to a 5/5 before you can kill me so I can just wait until it is large enough to one shot you. WW

    4. alphastryk: Swamp, Encroach, Cauldron Familiar, Witch's Oven
    OTP I dodge your Encroach and eventually win by attacking with 2 creatures. OTD I lose to your Encroach. WL

    5. Reeplcheep: Scrubland, Cry of Contrition, Serra Ascendant, Serra Ascendent
    OTP Encroach takes your land, OTD I am too slow. WL

    6. PJim: Stomping Ground, Orcish Lumberjack, Aluren, Acererak the Archlich
    OTP Encroach takes your land, OTD I can't disrupt your combo. WL

    7. GoblinSmashmaster: Forest, Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Berserk
    OTP I have a 1/1 Hangarback in play when you first attack with Glistener Elf, so I block with it (you don't wait to attack because the Hangarback just gets bigger). You just use Invigorate, Hangarback dies, leaving me a 1/1 thopter and Glistener Elf survives. From then on I need to leave one creature back on defense and if I attack with one of them, you Berserk to kill it, so we end up staring at each other. OTD I can't block your turn 2 attack so I lose. DL

    8. silkster: Scrubland, Inkmoth Nexus, Judge's Familiar, Mesmeric Fiend
    OTP I Encroach your Scrubland and you can't play anything. OTD you counter my Encroach with Judge's Familiar and kill me with infect. WL

    9. jhhdk: Pendelhaven, Inkmoth Nexus, Blight Mamba, Melira, Sylvok outcast
    Encroach means you never get 2 mana. WW

    10. maxx!: Swamp, Putrid Imp, Reanimate, Archon of Cruelty
    I can't beat Archon of Cruelty or stop you from getting it into play. LL

    11. FTW: Swamp, Inkmoth Nexus, Fatal Push, Mesmeric Fiend
    OTP I Encroach your Inkmoth Nexus and slowly win with a 1/1. OTD you take Hangarback Walker with Mesmeric Fiend and kill me with infect. WL

    12W 1D 9L = 37

    Got lucky by betting on Encroach this time.
    Last edited by RoosterCocoa; 09-22-2021 at 05:56 PM.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    DraftResults:
    1. Asthereal (TO): Savannah, Durkwood Baloth, Durkwood Baloth, Reciprocate looks like WW
    2. dte: smallpox, memnite, phyrexian tower, Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre LL
    3. Wrath of Pie: Mountain, Dwarven Ruins, Blood Moon, Keldon Halberdier LL DL (thanks dte)
    4. alphastryk: Swamp, Encroach, Cauldron Familiar, Witch's Oven LL
    5. Reeplcheep: Scrubland, Cry of Contrition, Serra Ascendant, Serra Ascendent later WW (thanks for doing analysis FTW)
    6. PJim: Stomping Ground, Orcish Lumberjack, Aluren, Acererak the Archlich LL
    7. GoblinSmashmaster: Forest, Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Berserk WL
    8. silkster: Scrubland, Inkmoth Nexus, Judge's Familiar, Mesmeric Fiend LL DL (thanks dte)
    9. jhhdk: Pendelhaven, Inkmoth Nexus, Blight Mamba, Melira, Sylvok outcast ME
    10. maxx!: Swamp, Putrid Imp, Reanimate, Archon of Cruelty LL
    11. FTW: Swamp, Inkmoth Nexus, Fatal Push, Mesmeric Fiend probably LL
    12. RoosterCocoa: Swamp, Encroach, Hangarback Walker, Mishra's Factory LL
    Last edited by jhhdk; 09-29-2021 at 06:57 AM.

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    Quote Originally Posted by alphastryk View Post
    alphastryk: Swamp, Encroach, Cauldron Familiar, Witch's Oven


    8. silkster: Scrubland, Inkmoth Nexus, Judge's Familiar, Mesmeric Fiend
    OTP Encroach takes Scrubland for the win, OTD Encroach takes Inkmoth to prevent Fiend, and Familiar can't counter or race Cat + Oven. WW
    When you are OTD can't Silkster sacrifice Judge's Familiar to counter Encroach? Then you play Cauldron Familiar, and silkster beats you down with Inkmoth Nexus, which wins the race against Cauldron Familiar and Witch's Oven.

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